Bama ghost tune.

[FordAddict]

Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0

It's definitely cam timing that makes the car sound lopey

But how is that possible electronically? Cam timing comes from the cam gears ect. I just don't understand how that can be changed from a tune...

[GrabberBlue5.0]

Tivct, twin independent variable cam timing. I believe it is hydraulically timed, that along with some electrical timing. Isn't technology great?

[FordAddict]

Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0

Tivct, twin independent variable cam timing. I believe it is hydraulically timed, that along with some electrical timing. Isn't technology great?

Ahh I didn't know that... I'm all about the old 99-04 shiz where its all physical lol

[Napoleon85]

Originally Posted by FordAddict

I wonder how exactly this tune works and if they could experiment with my modded up 03' gt. I need to buy a tuner anyways since my car is stuck on 93 octane since the tuner is lost forever :/

AM (like all the other tuners) manipulate the TiVCT settings to make the ghost cam effect happen. This means that it is not physically possible on anything other than the 2011+

[AMChrisRose]

Originally Posted by Napoleon85

Bama emailed me back and said it's normal for it to do that ... not sure how much I believe that since none of the other cars are doing it =\

Can you tell me what the name of the person was who emailed you? I'm getting this taken care of now.

Chris

[Napoleon85]

Originally Posted by amchrisrose

Can you tell me what the name of the person was who emailed you? I'm getting this taken care of now.

Chris

Chris,

I just got off the phone with Mike Wilson. We're working on it. I don't think the guy I worked with was trying to sweep anything under the rug, for what it's worth.

Thanks for the follow up!
Anthony

[DDTCM]

Chris,since you are on here....question for you. I've talked to Lund about a Cammed tune and they will send me a regular tune plus that same tune with the ghost cam added. Is this something that y'all will do?

Example: I need a 93 race tune,mods: LTs,O.R. X,axelbacks,CAI and 3.73s
And the same tune with ghost cam added......will this cost me $200 like it will if I go with the new Lund tunes?

[winslow16]

i got my cai, off road h pipe, and tuner frieday and put everything on saturday. when i ordered the tuner i asked to have the ghost cam tune put on the performance and race tune and when i loadewd the performance tune there was no ghost cam. then yesterday i threw the race tune on to see if it had it and its on there the motor was shaking pretty bad. (dont know if thats how its supposed to be, never had a cammed car). i tried letting it relearn the idle (in neutral with the brake on for a few then with the AC on for a few but it sounded like it was was going to stall with the AC on. didnt really drive it with the race tune though. took it to the end of the street and back and put the performance tune back on. one last thing was i think it messed with my gas gauge when i put the tune one. i had 91 in the tank and ran it down as much as i could, about a quarter tank then filled it back up with 93 and it usually say i have between 230-240 till empty and after i had it on the lift to do my exhaust and took it down (only unpluging the o2 sensors) loaded the tune started the car and it said that i had over 300 till empty. now the guage itself is at half a tank which is where i expect if after the weekend and it says im like 170-180 till empty and that im averaging 18.2 mpg city with my 5.0 so i dont know whats going on

[Yellow50]

Originally Posted by winslow16

i got my cai, off road h pipe, and tuner frieday and put everything on saturday. when i ordered the tuner i asked to have the ghost cam tune put on the performance and race tune and when i loadewd the performance tune there was no ghost cam. then yesterday i threw the race tune on to see if it had it and its on there the motor was shaking pretty bad. (dont know if thats how its supposed to be, never had a cammed car). i tried letting it relearn the idle (in neutral with the brake on for a few then with the AC on for a few but it sounded like it was was going to stall with the AC on. didnt really drive it with the race tune though. took it to the end of the street and back and put the performance tune back on. one last thing was i think it messed with my gas gauge when i put the tune one. i had 91 in the tank and ran it down as much as i could, about a quarter tank then filled it back up with 93 and it usually say i have between 230-240 till empty and after i had it on the lift to do my exhaust and took it down (only unpluging the o2 sensors) loaded the tune started the car and it said that i had over 300 till empty. now the guage itself is at half a tank which is where i expect if after the weekend and it says im like 170-180 till empty and that im averaging 18.2 mpg city with my 5.0 so i dont know whats going on

The cam lope doesnt start until the car is warmed up.

Btw im having idling issues too when i reverse and clutch back in it stalls i have to blip the throttle to keep it going.

[Rynarok]

Is it possible to run the ghost cam tune with cats at all? I'd absolutely love to have this sound, but I've got to pass emissions testing. Assuming you need to go catless for the improved air flow, would going full aftermarket from Xpipe back give you the kind of airflow that's needed for this tune?

Just wondering what my options are here.

[Napoleon85]

Originally Posted by Yellow50

The cam lope doesnt start until the car is warmed up.

Btw im having idling issues too when i reverse and clutch back in it stalls i have to blip the throttle to keep it going.

Had this happen to me yesterday in a busy krogers parking lot

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Rynarok

Is it possible to run the ghost cam tune with cats at all? I'd absolutely love to have this sound, but I've got to pass emissions testing. Assuming you need to go catless for the improved air flow, would going full aftermarket from Xpipe back give you the kind of airflow that's needed for this tune?

Just wondering what my options are here.

What about high flow cats? Can you pass emissions w/those?

[Napoleon85]

Originally Posted by Rynarok

Is it possible to run the ghost cam tune with cats at all? I'd absolutely love to have this sound, but I've got to pass emissions testing. Assuming you need to go catless for the improved air flow, would going full aftermarket from Xpipe back give you the kind of airflow that's needed for this tune?

Just wondering what my options are here.

You can't have cats with any ghost cam tune. I'm pretty sure this is because they are dumping raw fuel down the exhaust.

[winslow16]

it was warmed up it was idling fine with no AC then when i turned it on the rpms dropped way down and almost stalled. this is my first experience with this so i dont know whats right or not. i was more worried about how much the motor was shaking

[Yellow50]

Ive shot flames with this tune

[Napoleon85]

Originally Posted by Yellow50

Ive shot flames with this tune

You'll do that with any tune and offroad pipes.

[Tapakegovagnaps]

I hope this is available for the 2013's soon

[DWC_SmOziLLa]

Originally Posted by Tapakegovagnaps

I hope this is available for the 2013's soon

They told me within a week or so.

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Originally Posted by Napoleon85

You'll do that with any tune and offroad pipes.

I wanna shoot flames!!! Lol

[Tapakegovagnaps]

Originally Posted by DWC_SmOziLLa

They told me within a week or so.

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I wanna shoot flames!!! Lol

I hope so, they said they are working on it, and can't give a estimate as to when....one guy at bama said to call back month to month!

[5pointOH2011]

Originally Posted by amchrisrose

Can you tell me what the name of the person was who emailed you? I'm getting this taken care of now.

Chris

Hey Chris we talked not to long ago about the MT booth at the show... I installed this tune also and I'm having a ton of problems, stalls when I push in clutch and regularly have to restart my car after turning it over the first time... And this is the second tune since the first one wasnt cammed at all...Zach told me that if this one (my current one) doesn't work then my car simply wouldn't take to it? And said that some cars ECU just doesn't accept the tune... Can this be true? And idk what else to do to get this tune working properly because everytime I call up they seem to connect me to Zach... I'm trying to get this all figured out before the AM car show

Thanks

Mike W

[coyote414]

Originally Posted by Yellow50

I just put my cam tune in. Car does the lopey thing up until 1,400rpm? Well I haven't driven the car yet so maybe it'll change later. It's currently on jack stands but I have to say it sounds so fckng bad ass

Do you hear any drivetrain chatter? -_-

[AMChrisRose]

Originally Posted by 5pointOH2011

Hey Chris we talked not to long ago about the MT booth at the show... I installed this tune also and I'm having a ton of problems, stalls when I push in clutch and regularly have to restart my car after turning it over the first time...

Hey Mike,

Hope you're doing well! If you can PM AMDanBailer or AMShaneLesky with your order number and contact info, they'll have Mike Wilson give you a shout and get it straightened away.

Originally Posted by winslow16

when i ordered the tuner i asked to have the ghost cam tune put on the performance and race tune and when i loadewd the performance tune there was no ghost cam.

We only allow the Bama Cam tune over top of the Race tune, and not the Street or Performance tunes. It's not going to change power numbers on the dyno, and it only an add-on to create the idle sound. Everything else will be identical to the Race tune without it. Keep in mind that you need to let the car fully warm up for it to start camming. Sometimes, you can make it happen faster by blipping the throttle, but it's best to let it warm up and drive it around and it will cam and idle fine in a few minutes.

The first time you flash the car, you need to give the car about 5 minutes to idle and then drive the car for 20 miles or so in order to fully learn the idle strategy. Most idle characteristics smooth out doing this, and it's recommended even on the factory tune.

Originally Posted by DDTCM

Chris,since you are on here....question for you. I've talked to Lund about a Cammed tune and they will send me a regular tune plus that same tune with the ghost cam added. Is this something that y'all will do?

Example: I need a 93 race tune,mods: LTs,O.R. X,axelbacks,CAI and 3.73s
And the same tune with ghost cam added......will this cost me $200 like it will if I go with the new Lund tunes?

With our Free Tunes for Life program, you can get as many different combos of tunes as you want. You can get a regular Race tune, as well as a Race tune with only the ghost cam tune added. You'll just have to give our Bama Tuning specialists a call directly and they'll hook you up!

Our Bama Performance tuning specialists are here in the building Monday-Friday from 9AM-5:30PM EST and Saturday 10AM-3PM EST. You can hit them up directly at 888.226.9764 and they'll get you squared away!

[winslow16]

thanks for clearing that up. i thought they forgot to add it to the performance tune. i know it doesnt add power i just was hoping i couldnt have to drive around with the race tune loaded on my daily driver

Originally Posted by amchrisrose

We only allow the Bama Cam tune over top of the Race tune, and not the Street or Performance tunes. It's not going to change power numbers on the dyno, and it only an add-on to create the idle sound. Everything else will be identical to the Race tune without it. Keep in mind that you need to let the car fully warm up for it to start camming. Sometimes, you can make it happen faster by blipping the throttle, but it's best to let it warm up and drive it around and it will cam and idle fine in a few minutes.

The first time you flash the car, you need to give the car about 5 minutes to idle and then drive the car for 20 miles or so in order to fully learn the idle strategy. Most idle characteristics smooth out doing this, and it's recommended even on the factory tune.

[winslow16]

Went to go load the race tune again and was letting it sit and idle and it was worse then before. Then went to go load the street tune back on it and it said tune failed. Told me to return to stock go to try it. Failed. Now my car wont start. Called AM and he told me you will just want to call sct and they can help you and that was it. Now im stuck with a car that wont start and on hold with sct for a while now

[Bowtiebeater]

Hard to believe AM dropped the ball like that. Think this whole ghost tune is a disaster waiting to happen.

[GrabberBlue5.0]

That sounds like a fault in the tuner, I've had that happen to me before, I waited about an hr tried to load again an it worked just fine

[winslow16]

ok hopefully thats the case ill try again before i leave work. i just hope i dont need a new ecu

[GrabberBlue5.0]

When that happened to me my car went crazy and told me to check all systems and all my dash lights came on. Turns out I just pissed off the anti theft system and after some cool down time everything was fine

[winslow16]

yea thats what mine is doing. i guess cause i put it on let it idle for a few and turned it off and tried putting the street tune back on it real fast i didnt give it enough time in between. i hope thats all it is

[winslow16]

UPDATE: i let it sit an hour and it let me return the car to stock tune. only problem is i have a jlt intake and i cant drive it without a tune and now im scared to try to load the tune again. GRABBER do you think it should load the tune no problem now if i let it sit for a little while longer?

[GrabberBlue5.0]

Yes, mine did. I think I ran the stock tune for a day or two first though, no issues just threw a lean code but no biggie

[winslow16]

You ran it with a intake that required a tune and no cats on stock tune? Id be scared. Anyway i let it sit for a while and my performance tune loaded just fine so all seems well right now. So there you go people. Dont change tunes too fast haha

[GrabberBlue5.0]

Yea, if you do it for a day or two it'll be fine, just not too long

[winslow16]

well i started it on the stock tune and it sounded like it was gasping for air. but everything worked out and my custom tune loaded to im good now. thanks though