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Old 08-08-2012, 08:46 AM   #36
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Agreed. I pretty happy with my Bama tune, but in all honesty, the 93 race tune is the only one worth running. I doubt nothing else actually provides gains (most likely just throttle response).
I agree with "Napoleon85", even though my Tune is Custom, it performs much like the 93 Race Tune.
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When i went to the shop to have my car tuned, i made sure to tell him that a need one tune for going to the store, another tune for for coming back and of course one more tune if it rains. I couldnt have stressed enough how different i needed these tunes to be. Wtf, really, i dont get the whole multiple tune thing. And then Bama makes the comment about the race tune saying it may cause you to launch from a stop and/or spin the wheels easily. Ok, who wouldnt want that one?
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And then Bama makes the comment about the race tune saying it may cause you to launch from a stop and/or spin the wheels easily. Ok, who wouldnt want that one?
I know, right?
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I know, right?
I promise you, this is greatly exaggerated.
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I promise you, this is greatly exaggerated.
So the mere touch of a feather on the accelerator doesn't ignite the rear tires?
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So the mere touch of a feather on the accelerator doesn't ignite the rear tires?
No...
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So the mere touch of a feather on the accelerator doesn't ignite the rear tires?
Lol.
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I would stick with what the good tuner guys are running which is SCT.
Personally, and I would keep my distance from the SCT. There's plenty of anecdotal information from the other Mustang forums that these programmers are problematic. Tunes are crashing leaving some folks stranded (ask me how I know) and some of their firmware updates are wiping the data from the programmers. And don't expect SCT to provide the same level of service as Bama and Steeda, because they don't. Getting through to SCT is next to impossible, and hang times waiting for a representative are lengthy. Also, you NEVER see SCT weigh-in on the Mustang forums. Customer service is not their priority. As for me, I need jumper cables to another vehicle to ensure the SCT won't crash while loading a tune. Be warned: don't do a firmware update unless your tunes are backed up. Also, Steeda and Bama can't help you if your tunes crash--they'll refer you to SCT. If you're SOL and have to get in touch with SCT to get your car running again, ask Steeda, Bama, or whomever authored your tunes to give you SCT's toll-free number. I'm still waiting for a response to an email that I sent to SCT over a week ago.

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Personally, and I would keep my distance from the SCT. There's plenty of anecdotal information from the other Mustang forums that these programmers are problematic. Tunes are crashing leaving some folks stranded (ask me how I know) and some of their firmware updates are wiping the data from the programmers. And don't expect SCT to provide the same level of service as Bama and Steeda, because they don't. Getting through to SCT is next to impossible, and hang times waiting for a representative are lengthy. Also, you NEVER see SCT weigh-in on the Mustang forums. Customer service is not their priority. As for me, I need jumper cables to another vehicle to ensure the SCT won't crash while loading a tune. Be warned: don't do a firmware update unless your tunes are backed up. Also, Steeda and Bama can't help you if your tunes crash--they'll refer you to SCT. If you're SOL and have to get in touch with SCT to get your car running again, ask Steeda, Bama, or whoever authored your tunes to give you SCT's toll-free number. I'm still waiting for a response to an email that I sent to SCT over a week ago.

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All true. Ask me how I know about my car getting stranded and having to take time off work since sct has NO night OR weekend hours, just to get my car back on the road.
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So the mere touch of a feather on the accelerator doesn't ignite the rear tires?
Absolutely not.

I'm running a Bama 91 race tune in my '13GT (which is a d/d) and it's great. You're not going to obliterate your rear tires with this tune and the power gains are substantial.
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I guess its a selling point, I'm running BAMA 93 race tune w/ Steeda cai and I guess I'm used to it or the difference wasn't much.... I just drove a bone stock 12 GT automatic today and was actually impressed how peppy it is... an automatic for future purchase is definitely a good possibility cuz that thing was surprisingly torquey!!
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This has been really informational, thank you everyone. I still got time to make a choice, but at least now I'm better informed.
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Absolutely not.

I'm running a Bama 91 race tune in my '13GT (which is a d/d) and it's great. You're not going to obliterate your rear tires with this tune and the power gains are substantial.
Just so everyone knows, I was being sarcastic ...

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Personally, and I would keep my distance from the SCT. There's plenty of anecdotal information from the other Mustang forums that these programmers are problematic. Tunes are crashing leaving some folks stranded (ask me how I know) and some of their firmware updates are wiping the data from the programmers. And don't expect SCT to provide the same level of service as Bama and Steeda, because they don't. Getting through to SCT is next to impossible, and hang times waiting for a representative are lengthy. Also, you NEVER see SCT weigh-in on the Mustang forums. Customer service is not their priority. As for me, I need jumper cables to another vehicle to ensure the SCT won't crash while loading a tune. Be warned: don't do a firmware update unless your tunes are backed up. Also, Steeda and Bama can't help you if your tunes crash--they'll refer you to SCT. If you're SOL and have to get in touch with SCT to get your car running again, ask Steeda, Bama, or whomever authored your tunes to give you SCT's toll-free number. I'm still waiting for a response to an email that I sent to SCT over a week ago.

Feel free to check threads in other forums to corroborate what I've said.
So, what tuner do you use? Diablosport, or are there other options?
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Personally, and I would keep my distance from the SCT. There's plenty of anecdotal information from the other Mustang forums that these programmers are problematic. Tunes are crashing leaving some folks stranded (ask me how I know) and some of their firmware updates are wiping the data from the programmers. And don't expect SCT to provide the same level of service as Bama and Steeda, because they don't. Getting through to SCT is next to impossible, and hang times waiting for a representative are lengthy. Also, you NEVER see SCT weigh-in on the Mustang forums. Customer service is not their priority. As for me, I need jumper cables to another vehicle to ensure the SCT won't crash while loading a tune. Be warned: don't do a firmware update unless your tunes are backed up. Also, Steeda and Bama can't help you if your tunes crash--they'll refer you to SCT. If you're SOL and have to get in touch with SCT to get your car running again, ask Steeda, Bama, or whomever authored your tunes to give you SCT's toll-free number. I'm still waiting for a response to an email that I sent to SCT over a week ago.

Feel free to check threads in other forums to corroborate what I've said.
Interesting how you have stated all that, you stated it as if those were All defferent intities, I guess most Newbies would not know that SCT is a Tuner itself, and BAMA is a Tune/co. that writes Tunes on SCT. Steeda is Performance Co/shop that does Perfomance modifications to cars and does Tunes on the cars that they work on, but mostly use SCT tuners. My Performance shop used SCT tuner on my car, and did a Custom tune on it for me. Other Tuner options they could use also is Diablo Sport. I chose the SCT and have had absolutely No problems with it at all, I use Diablo Sport Preditor on my wife's car and have had No problems with it either.
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I am a newbie. Looking to purchase a tuner very soon. Was starting to get a little discouraged and scared about getting one after reading this thread. However KATO, you have cleared up some concerns. I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering a SCT next week. The only question I have left is, which SCT to get. The SF3, TSX or the X3?
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Just so everyone knows, I was being sarcastic ...

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So, what tuner do you use? Diablosport, or are there other options?
At present, the SCT which I purchased just six weeks ago. Had I done my homework on the forums, I would have gone to the Diablosport. In stark contrast to my experience with the SCT/SF3 programmer, I used a Cobb Accessport programmer on my WRX without any issues.

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I am a newbie. Looking to purchase a tuner very soon. Was starting to get a little discouraged and scared about getting one after reading this thread. However KATO, you have cleared up some concerns. I'm pretty sure I'll be ordering a SCT next week. The only question I have left is, which SCT to get. The SF3, TSX or the X3?
Skulls, if you're going to get the SCT/SF3 programmer, make sure you buy one with the latest firmware update. Check the SCT website and your vendor to verify this prior to purchase. Keep in mind that if you do this online after purchase, you run the risk of wiping the data from your SCT.
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At present, the SCT which I purchased just six weeks ago. Had I done my homework on the forums, I would have gone to the Diablosport. In stark contrast to my experience with the SCT/SF3 programmer, I used a Cobb Accessport programmer on my WRX without any issues.

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Skulls, if you're going to get the SCT/SF3 programmer, make sure you buy one with the latest firmware update. Check the SCT website and your vendor to verify this prior to purchase. Keep in mind that if you do this online after purchase, you run the risk of wiping the data from your SCT.
I will do that. Thanks for the heads up.
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I will do that. Thanks for the heads up.
If you get in deep sh*t pm me. I think I've had these things break in every possible way and fixed most of it myself.
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If you get in deep sh*t pm me. I think I've had these things break in every possible way and fixed most of it myself.
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Im pretty sure all tuners using SCT had the same firmware issues, it's an SCT problem not a bama (or insert tuner name here) problem
This. Bama gets a lot of bad press because they have sold a TON of tunes, and a lot of those customers are new to the mod scene and have no idea what they're doing. They run into a problem and blame the first thing they don't understand...
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This. Bama gets a lot of bad press because they have sold a TON of tunes, and a lot of those customers are new to the mod scene and have no idea what they're doing. They run into a problem and blame the first thing they don't understand...
I agree. It seems that so.many people are happy. Then you have that few that aren't. But as many tunes as they do I wouldn't expect them all to be perfect as they are all hand written.
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I agree. It seems that so.many people are happy. Then you have that few that aren't. But as many tunes as they do I wouldn't expect them all to be perfect as they are all hand written.
I mean it is what it is. Bama tunes aren't "racecar tunes" like Lund, aed, etc... But they're great for street cars that see occasional track use and while experimenting with mods.
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So... Do I have to purchase a new tune every time I want to change something on my car. For example, throttle body, gears, ect... Or are there some things you can program yourself.
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So... Do I have to purchase a new tune every time I want to change something on my car. For example, throttle body, gears, ect... Or are there some things you can program yourself.
AM/Bama will update it for free. Most others charge $50-200 for an update.
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AM/Bama will update it for free. Most others charge $50-200 for an update.
AM - SCT - Bama. Order is going out on Tuesday. Can't wait. Thank you everyone, for all your help.
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