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Old 08-06-2012, 04:31 PM   #1
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Eaton M90 Install???

I have a 2010 Mustang GT with the 4.6L engine. I purchased an Eaton M90 supercharger and throttle body.

What other parts will I need for the install?
What other tuning/modifications will need to be made?
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:16 PM   #2
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Re: Eaton M90 Install???

All mounting brackets, manifold and drive system + fuel system upgrades and tune. Hope you got a deal b/c if you don't have a line on those parts, you're going to add up to more than buying a kit would have cost.
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I got it for 100 bucks so all I need is a fuel pump booster of some sort or different fuel injectors? And would a bama tuner be a good one?
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:10 PM   #4
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Re: Eaton M90 Install???

Seriously...you got an entire kit or just the blower? Sounds like just the blower and you're going to go mad sourcing everything you need to piece this together.

You need:

drive system
manifold
injectors
brackets
mounting hardware
belts
tuner and a tune
boost-a-pump or fuel pump

If you're hot with a tig welder and plasma cutter and, have a stock of aluminum plate, you could whip up the brackets. If you have good skill with a metal lathe, drill press and some bar stock, you could make the pulleys. The rest you'll have to look for.

if you got an near or entire complete kit for 100 bucks you must be the dealmaker of the century.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:13 PM   #5
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No I just got the blower and throttle body for 100 bucks thanks for your help.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:20 PM   #6
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Good luck, man, that's a project you got ahead.

I also forgot you'll need a CAI or air cleaner of some kind.
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That's awesome, are you going to dyno tune it ? If so post numbers, I have a 10 I'm curious as to how much power it's going to put down.
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I might dyno tune it if I can convince a local business to let me bring my car by.
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Re: Eaton M90 Install???

M90's are not the best blower by far, consider a far better (efficient) blower if you are going to go through all the hassle.
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It'd almost be worth it to try and sell it and make some money off of it to buy a kit. It's a big project. It's a lot of rebuilding the engine but that is a deal I couldn't pass up. Good luck man... Haha and let me know how it goes so I can get some ideas for my '10!
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I know it's not the "best" blower out there. And I'm not looking to run a 9 second quarter mile either I'm just looking to be able to leave a newer 5 liter mustang at a set of lights. I'll dyno test my car after I get finished and post my numbers and let you know what I did.
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Boy oh boy, not to be hard on you but, the best you'll get out of an M90 on a 4.6 litre engine that's sorta too big for it, (once you finish all the stuff I mentioned earlier) is maybe 400 horse. It just doesn't have the cfm to support much more than that without turning into a flamethrower.

Oh and, one more thing, if you want to avoid the flamethrower part, you're going to have to figure out charge cooling for this setup. Hopefully you can find a manifold with this as part of it but, you'll have to design a pump and line system for the water an and splice it into your cooling system or, devise a way to run a front mount water IC core.

I've built some pretty crazy **** out of JY parts, regularly freaking people out at the track with what my jack-leg creations would run. I encourage people to have fun with stuff. I'm just trying to point out some of the pitfalls before you fall into them.

I thought of an M90 install on my old pushrod 5.0 but I eventually went and built a junkyard twin turbo setup instead. The complexities of the M90 install were a WAY bigger challenge to overcome and the turbos flat out roasted it for power output anyway.
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I know it's not the "best" blower out there. And I'm not looking to run a 9 second quarter mile either I'm just looking to be able to leave a newer 5 liter mustang at a set of lights. I'll dyno test my car after I get finished and post my numbers and let you know what I did.
Hate to tell you but a 4.6 with a m90 blower wont leave a new 5.0 liter.
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At 7 psi the m90 on a 4.6 3v can make 420 hp so more power than a stock new 5.0

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At 7 psi the m90 on a 4.6 3v can make 420 hp so more power than a stock new 5.0
It's with some help of bolt ons tht everyone does on their car
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Re: Eaton M90 Install???

basically what you're planning is like the Roush kit. Claims for that are 435/400 for a 4.6 3V.

Here's a pic I found on the net of what's included in that kit. It's a pretty complex arrangement, overall.

here's even one for sale, used. It's sold but you get the idea on what things are worth.

http://www.lonestarstangs.com/thread...ger-kit.65657/
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Dang do do you think I'd be better off to sell the m90 blower before I invest in all those parts? How much am I looking at for a twin turbo set up like yours?
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Re: Eaton M90 Install???

yup I would sell it and go elsewhere. No matter what you do the safe limit is 400-450rwhp~ so that will be all you should expect before needing a motor rebuild. If you do not do it right, keep it safe, and have it tuned good the motor wont hold up either. If you cant afford to rebuild a blown up motor dont do it regardless.

A twin turbo or single turbo setup done RIGHT will end up costing 6-10k
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Dang do do you think I'd be better off to sell the m90 blower before I invest in all those parts? How much am I looking at for a twin turbo set up like yours?
You will be way ahead. You will never find all those parts separately, unless you buy new from Roush and you'll be in deeper than the cost of a kit. That's what I told you up front.

I did TT for under a grand but, I rebuilt the turbos myself from JY core, I did all the welding and fabricating (such as it was) using scrounged cut-offs from exhaust shops, and the tuning, which was dead easy compared to tuning a more modern car. Once again, it's what you can do yourself and what you can't. You have to be realistic and honest with yourself about these things.
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Still not faster then a new 5.0. The new 5.0s run faster then even the top roush 2010 mustang (427r).

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Did you really think you could just bolt on the blower unit? You should definitely get rid of it and if you decide to get a supercharger buy the whole kit.
Well I mean it also depends if you can put the power down better. 380 to the wheels on a new 5.0 and 420 on 7 psi to the wheels on a 2010 m90
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Meh, I have no doubt an M90 on a 4.6 3v, despite not being "leading edge" in terms of technology, will actually make that comparatively asthmatic 4.6 pretty fun. I bet it would feel faster than a stock 5.0, because of the boost build. The 5.0's power delivery is calm and relaxed, (bar the S197 wheelhop, which needs curing in both applications) but pretty rapid when you see the timeslip.

I never had more fun than when I gave in and strapped a small Paxton blower onto my old pushrod 5.0, which was somewhat asthmatic too, as it still had E7 heads on it. Easy to tune, reliable, tons of grunt and power all the way to 6000. I blasted around on that for several years. Uniquely, I'd tried all the power adders on that car: nitrous, turbos and the SC. Hands down, SC delivered the most smiles per gallon. Wasn't "fastest" but was most fun.
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Wrong. A 2010 mustang with a m90 blower bolted on isn't faster then a new 5.0. Do some research before you post please. 2010 427r mustangs can't do the quarter mile as fast as a new 5.0 and they have more then just a bolt on blower. And to say that you can make it faster means nothing when you can make the 5.0 faster easier and cheaper.
Someone on here already said they were doing low 12s with that blower. Does yours run that stock?
Regardless if it does or doesn't he already has that car and said he would be happy for it to be comparable.
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i was doing 7.7 in the 1/8 which is low 12a maybe even high 11s in the 1/4 with cai/tune and tires on a 5.0 so yeah with tires the new 5.0s can be in the lower 12s stock with just tires I'm sure that 4.6 with the m90 had tires
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i was doing 7.7 in the 1/8 which is low 12a maybe even high 11s in the 1/4 with cai/tune and tires on a 5.0 so yeah with tires the new 5.0s can be in the lower 12s stock with just tires I'm sure that 4.6 with the m90 had tires
Exactly! But you can't argue with the peanut gallery.

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Dang do do you think I'd be better off to sell the m90 blower before I invest in all those parts? How much am I looking at for a twin turbo set up like yours?
The 4.6 is only good to around 450 so if your planning on spending upwards of 10 grand on a twin turbo setup then you should pull your motor and build it with forged parts. Or just buy a already built block.
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