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Old 08-13-2012, 08:48 PM   #1
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I was curious how your guys's 5.0's are holding up? Have you have an mechanical or electrical issues at all? If so, what? How many miles on your car? Share your stories and details!
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Mine is holding strong. Auto, almost 38000 miles mostly high way. No problems at all knock on wood. I have been to the track a couple of times and little spirited driving on ramp and long strait aways that cops aren't on
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Well I can help you our without telling you my mustang story. It has been documented that the 2011+ mustangs have been the most problematic mustang in history.
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For a 93 mine is doing great, no electrical issues besides power locks not working but how hard is it to reach over and lock it by hand... I have a small coolant look but I can't pin point where its coming from. Besides those two its running like a champ. Oh and I have 155k or 255k not sure which though. The mileage on the title is exempt, I was told 155k but who knows really.
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Mine is a year and 3 months old just rolled over yesterday... All is well... Shell Vpower 91 and ams oil synthetic
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Well I can help you our without telling you my mustang story. It has been documented that the 2011+ mustangs have been the most problematic mustang in history.
Documented? Where?

Either way, these have had a few kinks, but anytime you get a high technology engine this will happen. Yea we could stick with outdated stuff we know works :cough:LS motors:cough: or we can advance in this world. Technology is great and is helping these motors become what we are.

Anyways, in 36k miles I have zero engine or tranny issues! And I am TUNED!
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Well I can help you our without telling you my mustang story. It has been documented that the 2011+ mustangs have been the most problematic mustang in history.
What are you referencing? Mt-82 has been only problem I've heard of.

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...and #8 issue on early/job 1 models.
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Re: Reliability

According to that report, the 11 Mustang V6 and GT seem to be holding up better in most areas so, ???

I should talk, Ford did have a do-over on my trans build but, they seem to have gotten it right the second time.

All in all, it's no Alfa Romeo....
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Tranny and windshield wipers stopped working
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I've had a few issues, all of which were covered under warranty, in fact I'm having warranty work done as we speak
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I've had a few issues, all of which were covered under warranty, in fact I'm having warranty work done as we speak
With ur tune and mods what kind of warranty work are u getting done?
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Non powertrain stuff, blend door motor, one shock (before I lowered it), driver seat motor and a few other things

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I've had zero powertrain issues
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:36 PM   #14
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What are you referencing? Mt-82 has been only problem I've heard of.

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...and #8 issue on early/job 1 models.
You better do some research then.
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Re: Reliability

or maybe you should back up your claims instead of just expecting us to believe you, that's why no one does believe you, you say these things that are somewhat outlandish, are called out and never give any proof
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Googled and found that Consumer Reports does give only 3 out of 5 stars for both Drivetrain and Reliability. You have to buy the report though to get the details. I am curious though, the Coyote is relatively advanced and I was also under the impression the MT82 issue(s) had been resolved. Any insight, anyone read through this report?
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or maybe you should back up your claims instead of just expecting us to believe you, that's why no one does believe you, you say these things that are somewhat outlandish, are called out and never give any proof
I couldn't care less about what you or anyone else thinks of me or my opinions on an Internet forum lol I cant post links on my phone app that I use and frankly I don't care enough to dig up and prove a point to mustang fanboys. I read on this forum from a link someone already posted showing multiple service and consumer reports of the 2011+ mustangs being the most problematic in mustang history, so I repeated what i read on this thread.
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Googled and found that Consumer Reports does give only 3 out of 5 stars for both Drivetrain and Reliability. You have to buy the report though to get the details. I am curious though, the Coyote is relatively advanced and I was also under the impression the MT82 issue(s) had been resolved. Any insight, anyone read through this report?
I posted the report in PDF earlier in this thread. It gives the 2012 mustang 85 out of 100 points. No problem areas. Same for 2011.
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or maybe you should back up your claims instead of just expecting us to believe you, that's why no one does believe you, you say these things that are somewhat outlandish, are called out and never give any proof
Do you really think i care if you or a few others believe me on an Internet forum? Hahaha I say things that I have read or what I know so I couldn't care less about providing you proof! I don't expect you to believe me or care if you do or not.
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I couldn't care less about what you or anyone else thinks of me or my opinions on an Internet forum lol I cant post links on my phone app that I use and frankly I don't care enough to dig up and prove a point to mustang fanboys. I read on this forum from a link someone already posted showing multiple service and consumer reports of the 2011+ mustangs being the most problematic in mustang history, so I repeated what i read on this thread.
then don't get so butthurt when people don't believe you

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I couldn't care less about what you or anyone else thinks of me or my opinions on an Internet forum lol I cant post links on my phone app that I use and frankly I don't care enough to dig up and prove a point to mustang fanboys. I read on this forum from a link someone already posted showing multiple service and consumer reports of the 2011+ mustangs being the most problematic in mustang history, so I repeated what i read on this thread.
and I really don't know what report you were reading... unless you can't read American lol
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or maybe you should back up your claims instead of just expecting us to believe you, that's why no one does believe you, you say these things that are somewhat outlandish, are called out and never give any proof
Ok well I did a 2 second search "that anyone could have done" and I will copy and paste my findings since I can't post links.

True delta.com is now reporting the 2011 Mustang is the most problematic model year since they began collecting data in 2005.

They show an average of 38 trips per year for a major repair per 100 vehicles. More disturbing is the average milage is 6200 for a major repair.

For comparison, the 2007 Mustang was 8 major repairs per 100 vehicles at an average milage of 28,000.

Average milage before major repair - Ford Mustang:

2005: 60,700
2006: 42,800
2007: 28,300
2008: 21,800
2010: 12,800
2011: 6,200

So as you can see with the average mileage before major repair being 6,200 miles this is in fact the most problematic mustang in history "even though this only shows since 05"
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of course average repair mileage is low, because average mileage is lower... btw you precious site actually showed the 2010 as being most problematic.... explain that one please
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then don't get so butthurt when people don't believe you

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and I really don't know what report you were reading... unless you can't read American lol
I really don't know where you found your sense of humor? Must have been on the Internet where you spend your life.
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Ok well I did a 2 second search "that anyone could have done" and I will copy and paste my findings since I can't post links.

True delta.com is now reporting the 2011 Mustang is the most problematic model year since they began collecting data in 2005.

They show an average of 38 trips per year for a major repair per 100 vehicles. More disturbing is the average milage is 6200 for a major repair.

For comparison, the 2007 Mustang was 8 major repairs per 100 vehicles at an average milage of 28,000.

Average milage before major repair - Ford Mustang:

2005: 60,700
2006: 42,800
2007: 28,300
2008: 21,800
2010: 12,800
2011: 6,200

So as you can see with the average mileage before major repair being 6,200 miles this is in fact the most problematic mustang in history "even though this only shows since 05"
True delta? Lol!
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I don't know about the new 5.0's all that much but I have seen 4 new 5.0's in my local dealers service shop in less than a week of them arriving!
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I really don't know where you found your sense of humor? Must have been on the Internet where you spend your life.
Ouch, call the fire department because I just got BURNED!!! Lol
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Eh I've had tons of problems with mine and Ford has been less than helpful.

MT-82 shifts like garbage. Was grinding gears 1-5, common 1 and 2 lockout.
Ford's response: "This is normal"
I added AMSOil MTG and a BMR tubular K member with stiffer motor mounts and it tamed it for the most part. Still very notch and an occasional grind.

Interior rattles like a bunch of tin cans being dragged behind a car.
Every S197 I've had (this is my 3rd) has done this, taking it to Ford only produces more rattles.

Paint quality issues.
I consistently have severe paint chips down the the metal from minor (unavoidable/common) road debris. Ford doesn't care.

Power Driver's Seat issues.
Seat rattles and sqeaks constantly
Ford's response: We don't here it.
Fix, seat can not be in the fully lowered position, must move seat upward a bit to prevent rattling/squeaking.

Severe road vibrations.
Ford refused to inspect/fix even though it was brought up the day after buying the car.
Fix, paid for wheels to be balanced out of pocket immediately after buying the car.

SYNC
Total garbage, have to unplug and reconnect iPhone 3-5 times to get it to work. Directions are terrible, have sent me to the wrong place or had me driving in circles multiple times.

I could go on, but I'm honestly tired of talking about it.
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Eh I've had tons of problems with mine and Ford has been less than helpful.

MT-82 shifts like garbage. Was grinding gears 1-5, common 1 and 2 lockout.
Ford's response: "This is normal"
I added AMSOil MTG and a BMR tubular K member with stiffer motor mounts and it tamed it for the most part. Still very notch and an occasional grind.

Interior rattles like a bunch of tin cans being dragged behind a car.
Every S197 I've had (this is my 3rd) has done this, taking it to Ford only produces more rattles.

Paint quality issues.
I consistently have severe paint chips down the the metal from minor (unavoidable/common) road debris. Ford doesn't care.

Power Driver's Seat issues.
Seat rattles and sqeaks constantly
Ford's response: We don't here it.
Fix, seat can not be in the fully lowered position, must move seat upward a bit to prevent rattling/squeaking.

Severe road vibrations.
Ford refused to inspect/fix even though it was brought up the day after buying the car.
Fix, paid for wheels to be balanced out of pocket immediately after buying the car.

SYNC
Total garbage, have to unplug and reconnect iPhone 3-5 times to get it to work. Directions are terrible, have sent me to the wrong place or had me driving in circles multiple times.

I could go on, but I'm honestly tired of talking about it.
Besides changing the fluid in your transfer, did u ever change the shifter and bracket?

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Besides changing the fluid in your transfer, did u ever change the shifter and bracket?
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No, I haven't touched the shifter/bracket. If the thing grenades I don't want them to blame me ****ing with it and not have it covered under warranty.
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No, I haven't touched the shifter/bracket. If the thing grenades I don't want them to blame me ****ing with it and not have it covered under warranty.
That's y I haven't touched my fluid yet, but I read that changing the crappy bracket we have fixes the notchiness

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Well sounds like fun stuff. I don't know everyone's issues with their cars but I do know I have owned four mustangs that were built in the last 13 years drove all of them over 70k miles and I have had no major issues. My philosophy has always been to take care of my cars, do regular maintenance on them when required and to this point I have had no faults in any of the cars. Now if you want to go and rip @$$ with these cars every day then you will have problems just like any car. These aren't race cars from the factory and if you notice race car engine life expectancy is not all that long either. So believe the reports of you want, I can tell anyone I won't sell them on my car because my car is what I want and it treats me well. If you stomp on any car all day your wallet is going to get stomped on in repairs.
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That's y I haven't touched my fluid yet, but I read that changing the crappy bracket we have fixes the notchiness

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At the AM show I got a feel from the Barton shifter and fell in love and was sold
Barton bracket will help fix the lock-outs, but not the notchy shifting. I dont think changing oil voids your warranty, and it would be a pretty far stretch. Physically altering parts is a whole different ballgame.

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Well sounds like fun stuff. I don't know everyone's issues with their cars but I do know I have owned four mustangs that were built in the last 13 years drove all of them over 70k miles and I have had no major issues. My philosophy has always been to take care of my cars, do regular maintenance on them when required and to this point I have had no faults in any of the cars. Now if you want to go and rip @$$ with these cars every day then you will have problems just like any car. These aren't race cars from the factory and if you notice race car engine life expectancy is not all that long either. So believe the reports of you want, I can tell anyone I won't sell them on my car because my car is what I want and it treats me well. If you stomp on any car all day your wallet is going to get stomped on in repairs.
Exactly what are you implying? I take very good care of my cars, and it only has nine thousand miles on it. My 2010 had about 8k on the clock when I turned it in. I do all my maintenance myself, at intervals below the factory recommendation with parts and fluids that exceed the factory specification.

If yours is perfect, that's great for you, but it doesn't mean that everyone who has issues is at fault for them. If that is true, why are there so many TSBs issued for the 2011-12 Mustangs? Why were there so many complaints about the transmission that the NHTSA launched an official investigation into it?

Also, my car has been raced exactly once, where I pushed it to a mind blowing 13.5 ET 1/4 mile (stock tires + 42* at the track = no traction). If the car can't handle one night of 1/4 mile passes, it doesn't speak well for it's long term durability. It may not be a race car, but it's not a freaking Prius either. I shouldn't have to drive it 35MPH for it to hold up.
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Barton bracket will help fix the lock-outs, but not the notchy shifting. I dont think changing oil voids your warranty, and it would be a pretty far stretch. Physically altering parts is a whole different ballgame.

Exactly what are you implying? I take very good care of my cars, and it only has nine thousand miles on it. My 2010 had about 8k on the clock when I turned it in. I do all my maintenance myself, at intervals below the factory recommendation with parts and fluids that exceed the factory specification.

If yours is perfect, that's great for you, but it doesn't mean that everyone who has issues is at fault for them. If that is true, why are there so many TSBs issued for the 2011-12 Mustangs? Why were there so many complaints about the transmission that the NHTSA launched an official investigation into it?

Also, my car has been raced exactly once, where I pushed it to a mind blowing 13.5 ET 1/4 mile (stock tires + 42* at the track = no traction). If the car can't handle one night of 1/4 mile passes, it doesn't speak well for it's long term durability. It may not be a race car, but it's not a freaking Prius either. I shouldn't have to drive it 35MPH for it to hold up.
It was a general statement I did not quote you on it. I am sure u do all your regular maintenance and everything and the investigation was closed. Understand the mt82 issues however the car drives handles and gets you from point a to point b great. If you don't like it sell it now while it has low miles and find yourself something you really like.
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It was a general statement I did not quote you on it. I am sure u do all your regular maintenance and everything and the investigation was closed. Understand the mt82 issues however the car drives handles and gets you from point a to point b great. If you don't like it sell it now while it has low miles and find yourself something you really like.
I never said I don't like it. Also, my '10 was bone stock and had a boat load of problems (including major rear end issues that Ford wouldn't fix) and it was bone stock, never raced.

I'm simply stating the problems that I have had with my cars, despite taking very good care of them. My friends actually give me a hard time on a regular basis for "having a race car that's babied" since I don't even drive it in the rain and garage it all winter, not to mention it almost never makes it out to the track.

I just think it's an unfair assumption to make, and a bit judgmental, to assume that people who are having problems is because they beat on their cars without knowing the situation. Sure, there are people who beat on their cars, slack on the maintenance, and treat the cars like crap. In all honestly though, the cars should be engineered to take that kind of beating at this point in the game. You can go buy a new Camry, treat it like dog crap and it will run for 250,000 miles. Why can't I buy a new Mustang that costs 10-20k more and have it last half that long under the same circumstances. I'm not saying I want or would drive a Camry, just throwing it out there for thought.

Most all of the people here (and on other forums) are enthusiasts. We love our cars and take good care of them. If a significant subset of us have the same problems, don't you think it's at least worth considering the possibility that something is wrong with the design of the platform, and not that we're all beating the crap out of our cars 24/7?
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Eh I've had tons of problems with mine and Ford has been less than helpful.

MT-82 shifts like garbage. Was grinding gears 1-5, common 1 and 2 lockout.
Ford's response: "This is normal"
I added AMSOil MTG and a BMR tubular K member with stiffer motor mounts and it tamed it for the most part. Still very notch and an occasional grind.

Interior rattles like a bunch of tin cans being dragged behind a car.
Every S197 I've had (this is my 3rd) has done this, taking it to Ford only produces more rattles.

Paint quality issues.
I consistently have severe paint chips down the the metal from minor (unavoidable/common) road debris. Ford doesn't care.

Power Driver's Seat issues.
Seat rattles and sqeaks constantly
Ford's response: We don't here it.
Fix, seat can not be in the fully lowered position, must move seat upward a bit to prevent rattling/squeaking.

Severe road vibrations.
Ford refused to inspect/fix even though it was brought up the day after buying the car.
Fix, paid for wheels to be balanced out of pocket immediately after buying the car.

SYNC
Total garbage, have to unplug and reconnect iPhone 3-5 times to get it to work. Directions are terrible, have sent me to the wrong place or had me driving in circles multiple times.

I could go on, but I'm honestly tired of talking about it.
I have to give my opinion on a few of these thru my experience. Opinion only for whoever cares.

The tranny is finicky. But once you learn to drive the car properly and work the clutch right, the tranny isn't all that bad. I truly believe a lot of the complaints are due to driver error. Not saying that anyone here doesnt know how to drive. Just saying that the car shifts differently and once u learn it and apply some small changes in habit, the tranny really isn't bad.

Interior I haven't had any rattling issues so not much I can comment here. I guess I got lucky.

Same with paint quality, no issues.

Drivers seat- my seat motor starting sounding bad and getting weak at around 23k. Dealer replaced it no problem.

Severe road vibrations- I experienced the same until I upgraded my tires.

Sync- seems to work better with android devices from my experience. Using USB and bluetooth at the same time on an iPhone will throw it completely out of whack. Using one at a time seems to work great. The directions part has deterred me a couple times, but it goes by traffic not just the shortest route.


Again, just my .02. I've had a total of 4 mustangs 88, 89, 04, and now my 2011 and I've yet to experience anything that would turn me away from mustangs.
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