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Old 08-21-2012, 12:28 AM   #1
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MT82 Tranny in 2013

I was curious if Ford has greatly fixed issues with the transmission in 2013? They've had two/three years with this tranny knowing it wasn't a wonderful choice. Have they fixed most issues with it? This is my only hesitation to buying a 13' GT.
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I haven't had issues with mine 13' 5.0. I only have 1,300 miles on it though. This my second mustang. I had a 08' gt.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:31 AM   #3
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I have a 12. Give it time to break in. Don't rag on it right away and it will shift great.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

No issues with mine either. It was kinda clunky for the first 500mi or so, but now it shifts normally and easily (I broke it in kinda hard, and eased up on her once i reached 1k)
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my 2012 is perfectly fine so far
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:15 AM   #7
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

they have made changes for the '13: Phosphate-coated gears ease break-in worries about gear facing wear noise. These go on top of the clutch and fluid spec changes incorporated in the 12s. One hopes they got a better handle on the QC of outsourced parts inside this thing as, imho, that's what's causing the early failures.

My '12 imploded in under 3000 miles but, Ford did, ultimately, rebuild it for me.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:52 AM   #8
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

Just turned 3000 miles on my '13 and the MT82 is running fine. No car is going to be perfect--there are all kinds of compromises that must be made. The interwebz forums tend to amplify any issues. So far I have zero regrets buying my '13 GT (well, except, perhaps, that it took so long to get there).
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:07 AM   #9
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

Yep, don't get me wrong, I'm not some screaming internet tantrum-thrower. I understand any mass-produced article is going to have some problems. I didn't enjoy the process of convincing Ford I had a real issue but, they did make it right.

I will do whatever it takes to enjoy this car fully, even if that means changing the transmission in the future. It's my fourth Mustang V8 (by far the best of them) and 7th or 8th Ford so, I've enjoyed many of their products over the years.
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Love my mt-82 and i she shift like a champ amd smooth... 2nd to 3rd is no problem at 6800 and its stock shifter
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I have an 11 GT and haven't had any issues with my transmission (knock on wood).
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:31 PM   #12
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I have an 11, and my buddy (who also had an 11) just got a 13 after being without a stang for about a year. We met up, did a short cruise, and then switched cars. Neither of us could believe that our two cars had the same transmission.

The 13 shifts so dramatically different that I thought I was going to stall it out since I couldn't feel the clutch engagement (not to mention it's a lot lighter).
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2011 with no tranny issues at almost 12,000 miles and I drive spirited pretty much any time I'm in it.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

I test drove a 2011 Mustang a few years back. My new 2013 Mustang feels similar. I am still having problems going from 2-3rd. I can't put my finger on it but sometimes its just impossible to get the gears right. I have been driving manuals for over 20 years. My last variant was a 2006 BMW 325 which was nearly flawless in gear shifts. I have about 1500 miles on mine right now.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

I have 1800 miles on mine and it's like butter.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

2012 with no tranny issues with over 9,000 miles so far. The shifter is another story. I see a MGW shifter in the near future.
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I have 1800 miles on mine and it's like butter.
Two grand on the clock and my '13 GT is shifting smoothly, much more so than my departed '11GT. Unfortunately, the tranny in the '13 makes noises like a low-speed blender.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

Maybe the reasons that we are having different experiences with the MT82 Trans could be that Ford has made miner improvements in design build for 2013 as well. My Mustang went into production on MAR 30, 2012. Can't quite determine if it is a shift issue or a Trans issue. I am hoping that by changing the shifter all of my problems will go away. I hear occasionally hear the clunks and clacks when I change the gears.
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Shaking my head. All I gotta say.

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Napoleon nailed it on the head in a previous thread. I agree, that the body flexes under a heavy load and the remote shift linkages fall out of alignment. This IMO was fords way of reducing shift lever vibrations. Mission accomplished, however, we all drive our mustangs hard at some point, and will occasionally grind second, third, and maybe even forth from shear carelessness, but most of the grinding is due to fords new remote shift linkages and crappy concentric slave cylinders.
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10K on my '13 and no issues with mine.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:38 AM   #21
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Only 3% of the trannies are bad. I have a 12 around 26000 Kms the 4th synchro and gear with 3rf syncro and gear had to be replaced. Ford ****ed up reverse and had to replace that and tranny had a clunking sound at idle. So I made them give me a new tranny. Haven't had any issues with it yet

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Maybe the reasons that we are having different experiences with the MT82 Trans could be that Ford has made miner improvements in design build for 2013 as well. My Mustang went into production on MAR 30, 2012. Can't quite determine if it is a shift issue or a Trans issue. I am hoping that by changing the shifter all of my problems will go away. I hear occasionally hear the clunks and clacks when I change the gears.
Ford won't make any drastic improvements. They will wait til they redo the whole car. Their not going to change out the tranny for a different one cause then they would have to do it to previous customers and their not going to do it in the middle of production. I read a article in a mustang magazine. They found the tremec t-56 tranny is a lot better for the 5.0 with no crappy shifts and can handle double the torque then the mt-82
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I test drove a 2011 Mustang a few years back. My new 2013 Mustang feels similar. I am still having problems going from 2-3rd. I can't put my finger on it but sometimes its just impossible to get the gears right. I have been driving manuals for over 20 years. My last variant was a 2006 BMW 325 which was nearly flawless in gear shifts. I have about 1500 miles on mine right now.
Remote shifter + squishy bracket + gobs of torque = That problem.
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Remote shifter + squishy bracket + gobs of torque = That problem.
Remote shifter, meaning the stick shifter?
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Remote shifter, meaning the stick shifter?
Yes. It's not physically part of the transmission, just a bunch of remote linkages.
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Yes. It's not physically part of the transmission, just a bunch of remote linkages.
I honestly don't even think these transmissions are that bad, I think the biggest issues with these is the shifter and bracket... I'm at 7,400 miles and its now that I'm starting to feel more crunch in the shifts... and not to mention how sloppy the shifter been feeling lately... I'm waiting for the two post bracket from Barton, im still on stock shifter... kinda getting tired of missing gears
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

Changing the shifter will help, as will changing the bracket. But it's still a terrible design.

This is why:
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Changing the shifter will help, as will changing the bracket. But it's still a terrible design.

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I see what u mean... what kind of trans is the bottom one?
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I see what u mean... what kind of trans is the bottom one?
Looks like a Magnum XL. looks like all the linkage is inside the tailshaft which sounds slot better than current design. That way any torque or flex would not affect it the way it does ours. Plus shifter is mounted solid to the tranny instead of kinda floating in some crappy brackets. Reason most people are buying Barton. brackets
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Looks like a Magnum XL. looks like all the linkage is inside the tailshaft which sounds slot better than current design. That way any torque or flex would not affect it the way it does ours. Plus shifter is mounted solid to the tranny instead of kinda floating in some crappy brackets. Reason most people are buying Barton. brackets
Exactly what it is. Sorry forgot to include that in the comment. Even good brackets are inferior to a direct mount was the point I was trying to make. They will help, but still not fixing the root cause, which unfortunately, is a properly designed transmission
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Exactly what it is. Sorry forgot to include that in the comment. Even good brackets are inferior to a direct mount was the point I was trying to make. They will help, but still not fixing the root cause, which unfortunately, is a properly designed transmission
How much do they cost, just out if curiosity? If I did have to get one in the future I wonder how many times I would try to force the shifter to the left to find reverse. LOL.
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How much do they cost, just out if curiosity? If I did have to get one in the future I wonder how many times I would try to force the shifter to the left to find reverse. LOL.
You can get a kit with everything ( trans, clutch, flywheel, bell housing, driveshaft, speed sensor converter) for something like $4400 I think.
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Changing the shifter will help, as will changing the bracket. But it's still a terrible design.

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The MT83 shift linkage is set up more like a FWD transmission linkage than a RWD. IMHO, it would have been better if they had just extended the housing casting to incorporate the shift linkage. Looks like one the bean counters won.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

I had a built SRT4 (FWD, for the newbies out there)...and the stock shifter was also crap. It was common for guys to literally tear the shifter completely off (or out!) in a hard shift to 2nd...I managed to only rip the ball off once, and got to granny it back home via holding the stump of what was left of my shift lever.

I went thru and replaced every rubber bushing with a polyurethane one in the process of installing a shorty shifter...including the ones that connected the lines to the transmission. By the time I had it finished, that car had the best feeling shifter I've ever felt. Every gear felt positive, I never missed a shift, it would make a small 'click' into every gear....it put my friend's Hurst in his LS1/T56 to shame in terms of how great the shifting felt. And my shorty shifter was an 'Ebay special', too...nothing fancy.

Maybe in the process of installing an aftermarket shifter, they should offer a polyurethane bushing kit to replace all of those crappy rubber grommets? I think mine for the SRT4 was from ENERGY suspension.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

5500 miles on mine with 3 track days, no issues. I do have a 2-post barton shift bracket, had it on there since 500 miles.
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Re: MT82 Tranny in 2013

I've tracked this car and banged through on the road and missing gears has never been an issue, even on the stock stuff. The implosion of the input shaft bearings, consequent whining and destruction of other parts was a bit of an issue but, Ford fixed that.

You can't ham-hand this shifter though. Unlike the Hurst-shifted T5 in my last 5.0, which you just slammed as hard as you could, comparatively gentle direction is all that's required here. Running Steeda red bushing and an AM shift knob as only mods now.
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