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Old 08-22-2012, 06:15 PM   #1
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Short throw shifter

Looking to buy a short shifter for my 2013...eying up the barton with the bracket, but would like to spend less than $350 with a new knob and retainer as well...any suggestions? Do i really need bartons bracket or can i do without?
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If you want the best go with mgw, I believe it's more than what you want to spend though but you gotta pay for quality.

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I just ordered a Barton
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I got the American Muscle Brand SR Shfiter with the Barton Bracket. The shifter is awesome, the bushing inside is a little loose and reverse is tough but nothing insane. I can power shift 1-4 with no problems now!!
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Anyone here got the two post bracket? I ordered it thru AM, I got the shifter, but I'm not gonna install it till I get the bracket.... ordered 2 weeks ago its on back order
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Re: Short throw shifter

I installed a Barton a little over a month ago, and so far I am 100% satisfied. Reverse is a little hard - however the shifter advertises that this is intentional. It's also a heavy-duty, mechanical "click click" feel when shifting. I like it. Some people may not. However, this is how they describe their shifter (right in the instructions) and it's largely subjective. Awesome throw reduction, really noticeable. I also have the original Barton bracket as well.

I think any of the shifters will have some additional NVH ... just get Roush axle backs and you won't hear it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:27 PM   #7
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Purchased the hurst plus2 billet shifter for my 2013 gt from AM havent gotten to use it yet but price was 250 comes with EVERYTHING poly bushing and all and the billet hurst stick and knob are awesome
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Purchased the hurst plus2 billet shifter for my 2013 gt from AM havent gotten to use it yet but price was 250 comes with EVERYTHING poly bushing and all and the billet hurst stick and knob are awesome
Let me know how it is...i read that it does not utilize the reverse lock out...that gave me a bit of concern when doing my research
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So i see a few comments of hard to get in reverse or a lil hard.. Are all the aftermarkets like this.. The MGW hard(er) to get in reverse?
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So i see a few comments of hard to get in reverse or a lil hard.. Are all the aftermarkets like this.. The MGW hard(er) to get in reverse?
Not sure ... but the Barton is harder to get into reverse by design ... it's a feature. And, it's not "hard" ... it just needs to be a little more deliberate. With the stock shifter, I felt I could push down and up/left at the same time, whereas with the Barton I must push down FIRST, and THEN up / left. The spring is a little stiffer, but it's in no way difficult once you get use to it.

It pretty much ensures that you're 100% positive as to whether your in reverse or first, which was exactly the point.
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Re: Short throw shifter

Whatever you decide, make sure you don't get the Steeda; it's junk.
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Whatever you decide, make sure you don't get the Steeda; it's junk.
Ya I heard they're ok to start with but after a month or two the start getting a lot of slop in them..
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Re: Short throw shifter

MGW has a great reputation, well worth the investment. I wouldnt fear putting it up against any other shifter on the market.
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I was near buying the MGW but the shift knobs have a different setup. Have driven the 500gt recently, it is over to the right... We are to the left (get rag, german, mt82), does the MGW change the shift pattern!?!?
Really want to know, cuz the standard shifter looks like sh**. I like the reviews but will not advertise (shifter say MGW on the head, wtf) for them. Yes, I can use stock, but can't Allen wrench it to where i want it....
Input, insight before I pass on buying the superior product with inferior aesthetics. Thanks
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Re: Short throw shifter

Shift pattern is the same, all they are doing is swapping out the lever & receiver box. You can get whatever knob you want, or even retain the stock one. You can get two different styles of lever with different threads see their order form, M12x1.25 is stock). Then you can get whatever knob fits the thread pitch you order from anywhere you find.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #16
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Re: Short throw shifter

MGW is by far the best shifter for our cars.
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Shift pattern is the same, all they are doing is swapping out the lever & receiver box. You can get whatever knob you want, or even retain the stock one. You can get two different styles of lever with different threads see their order form, M12x1.25 is stock). Then you can get whatever knob fits the thread pitch you order from anywhere you find.
Yeah, I didn't think they changed te pattern. My point though was I wanted to purchase a shift ball from them (you can lock those with an Allen wrench) but they do not have any that show the left-up reverse pattern of our 6 speeds
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:50 PM   #18
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Just finished up with my barton... Hands down worth every penny!!
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Yeah, I didn't think they changed te pattern. My point though was I wanted to purchase a shift ball from them (you can lock those with an Allen wrench) but they do not have any that show the left-up reverse pattern of our 6 speeds
Ah, I never noticed that. I just ordered a shift knob from these guys: Shift Knobs - Custom Shifter Knobs by EPCO
Lots of options to get exactly what you want & they offer our correct shift pattern. Price is also good.
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Re: Short throw shifter

I have been watching this thread... I am interested in this topic also and don't want to start another thread... Of everyone that has the different shifters which one is the closest to be quiet like the stock shifter? Is it still mgw? Do they all produce more noise then the stock? My reason for asking was that I bought a hurst for my challenger and it was a lot louder then stock, looked good but was louder... I would like to keep the noise down to what it is now with the oem... Don't mean to hijack the thread from the op but these questions may help him decide also..

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I have been watching this thread... I am interested in this topic also and don't want to start another thread... Of everyone that has the different shifters which one is the closest to be quiet like the stock shifter? Is it still mgw? Do they all produce more noise then the stock? My reason for asking was that I bought a hurst for my challenger and it was a lot louder then stock, looked good but was louder... I would like to keep the noise down to what it is now with the oem... Don't mean to hijack the thread from the op but these questions may help him decide also..

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My Barton is no louder than my oem
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I got the American Muscle Brand SR Shfiter with the Barton Bracket. The shifter is awesome, the bushing inside is a little loose and reverse is tough but nothing insane. I can power shift 1-4 with no problems now!!

whats a power shift?
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whats a power shift?[/QUOTE]

When you don't lift off the gas. You keep it floored through the shift
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Keeping it floored through the shift is only half the battle, the real technique comes in when you time a perfectly placed clutch kick with a shift so fast that people will thinks its a automatic. Call me if you need a lesson.
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Oooooohhh!!!!
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Im assuming it's pretty bad on the tranny?
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Its all about Technique young grasshopper.
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Its all about Technique young grasshopper.
Well then explain? Lol
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This can't be 'good' for the tranny...
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This can't be 'good' for the tranny...
Clutch probably takes most of the abuse.
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My Barton is no louder than my oem
Did you install the Barton bracket, too? My NVH is definitely higher ... but frankly, I don't care. The improvement in the shifter if enough to where it could sing Lady GaGa songs and I'd deal with it.
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Yes.. The entire setup.. It's quiet to me.. Theres a lil more transmission noise on a cobra than a reg mustang anyways.. But all in all it's quiet
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$50+ more and you can get the MGW and IMO much better.
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$50+ more and you can get the MGW and IMO much better.
+1. I should be getting mine next week.
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MGW from this post. Watched their 3 part YouTube and was sold. Everything looks engineered to the tightest tolerances. Also researched the firm, this place is no joke.

Problem is, I don't have a four post jack... Don't want an idiot doing this or I end up paying to have grease forgotten, washers left out or some other 'it ain't mine' mistake.

Anyone did this with just the front on ramps? Possible to reach and do te work?

Also, what is a torque limiter? It sounds like buying something like a 'sex deterrent', not what I want. I have seen a few people mention adding though, so wanted to check.
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