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Old 09-26-2012, 03:28 PM   #1
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Cam tune?

Would a cam tune make my car faster? Or just make it sound bad a$$.
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It comes with a race tune as an add on and is for sound only.
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Would a cam tune make my car faster? Or just make it sound bad a$$.
McQueen,

The cam tune just gives you the nasty lopey idle. We make all the adjustments in the variable valve timing tables, however it doesn't add or loose any performance!

This tune only lopes at idle, as soon as you touch the gas pedal the car will go back to its normal mapping.

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Yeah it's only for sound and it does sound cool. Also it waste a lot of fuel not that I care just letting you know and when idling through first gear it real choppy like a real cam. It breaks the back tires loose when I'm idling through gravel.
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Do you need a o/r mid pipe for the tune? Also I was told the tunes arnt compatible for Mac's is that also true?
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Do you need a o/r mid pipe for the tune? Also I was told the tunes arnt compatible for Mac's is that also true?
Are you referring to Mac computers or Mac exhaust?
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Computers to download the tune to the sct device
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Ah, thought maybe you meant Mac prochambers lol.

I'm not for sure though
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Not compatible with apple...I use boot camp
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I love the sound and it will definably be a must for me when i get my tune, i am going to use kooks or SW lt headers with o/r x pipe package and 2013 quad muffler.
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I love the sound and it will definably be a must for me when i get my tune, i am going to use kooks or SW lt headers with o/r x pipe package and 2013 quad muffler.
That will sound great.
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So its just the tune , not actual camshafts???? U havent seen any actual cam mods in here. Whats the gain the coyote gets out of cams?
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So its just the tune , not actual camshafts???? U havent seen any actual cam mods in here. Whats the gain the coyote gets out of cams?
With a stage 2 cam you would get 32 hp to the wheels.
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So its just the tune , not actual camshafts???? U havent seen any actual cam mods in here. Whats the gain the coyote gets out of cams?
Correct. Just a tune.

I have seen reference to cams for the Coyote. I just am not connecting how it benefits since the engine has variable cams on both intake & exhaust.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:53 AM   #15
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U can get more aggressive cams
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Isn't that the point of the TiVCT system? You get the more aggressive profile when needed, and the milder one when it's more appropriate? I'm still missing something here.
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Timing does not change can profile, changing cam profile will change lift of valves as well as duration, timing only changes the time at which the valves open and close vs spark, duration, an lift
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OK, going for lift I get. Timing with the variable control is obvious (got that one), and I thought the TiVCT also adjusted duration. In a Ford press release on it, they also stated it can control overlap.

In any case, the lift part of the equation makes sense.
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Now the overlap I'm pretty sure is in reference to timing both intake cams to overlap each other, so that instead of having an even amount of time between cylinders firing, the time frame in which they fire overlaps.

In order to control duration, you would little have to slow the cam/motor/rpm while the valves were open, for each and every valve and speed up while they are closed, which is not really feasible or even possible because there is ALWAYS valves open, you cannot simultaneously speed up and slow down the same camshaft.
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Does the coyote has independent exhaust and intake cam sensors??
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Does the coyote has independent exhaust and intake cam sensors??
It has independent intake and exhaust cam shafts. TiVCT = Twin independent Variable Cam Timing
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It has independent intake and exhaust cam shafts. TiVCT = Twin independent Variable Cam Timing
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I don't wanna fake can anymore I wanna real one . It's not all hyped up as I thought it would be.
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It has independent intake and exhaust cam shafts. TiVCT = Twin independent Variable Cam Timing
I understand that, its a dohc engine, but my question was if it has a sensor per cam or just one sensor controlling both?, i also understand that it has 4 cams before someone points the obvious

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I don't wanna fake can anymore I wanna real one . It's not all hyped up as I thought it would be.
U can get a great amount of performance with a different kind of caMs
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I understand that, its a dohc engine, but my question was if it has a sensor per cam or just one sensor controlling both?, i also understand that it has 4 cams before someone points the obvious

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U can get a great amount of performance with a different kind of caMs
Yeah I know that's why I would like a real one instead of the cam tune.
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I understand that, its a dohc engine, but my question was if it has a sensor per cam or just one sensor controlling both?, i also understand that it has 4 cams before someone points the obvious

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U can get a great amount of performance with a different kind of caMs
Is it possible for the intake and exhaust cams to be independently controlled if there is only one sensor for both of them? I'm going to go with not likely.
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I'm pretty sure the cam solenoids are right on the front of the motor on top of the heads, 2 by the oil cap on the passenger side and two in the same spot on the driver side head
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With only one sensor u can control both but not separatly, a sensor per cam is better, way better, but of course the coyote is not a V teeeeeecc which only relies oncsms to make """""""""""""""""power""""""""""""""
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It can sound really old school and bad *** but it comes with issues. Gas MPG will go down alot.....That wasn't a big deal to me. The idle is a problem as for consistency. It's eratic and not even cosistent eratic. With AC on it's a issue and with it off. There is no relearn to make it perfect. I have a video in another thread on cam tunes on here. Or go to Youtube and type: 2012 gt back n a stang

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I have a cam tune on my auto. Mine is consistent, but it has a safe start up mode built in. For instance, if you run it until its warm...go into a store for a minute, crank and put it in drive...there could be stalling issues. Albeit, That shouldn't be a problem for a manual.
My mpg did drop, but that was expected seeing how much fuel it uses at idle.
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how much MPG drop have you guys seen? I have the tune from AmericanMuscle sitting on my computer, ready for my x pipe and cat deletes to be installed, and would maybe run it on the weekend unless we are only talking 1-2 mpg.

also, people that are seeing it drop, do you sit in stop and go traffic a lot? I would imagine if you drive highway most of the time, it really wouldn't be an issue?
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The lope is only at idle. More stop/go traffic you're in=more severe loss mpg. I'm in heavy traffic daily, mine dropped prob 5mpg. I only run the tune for shows or meets.
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that was what my assumption was. since I drive 95% of my driving on the highway, and rarely at a stand still, i shouldn't see much loss. Course on the weekends, when I am driving back roads and small town city roads cruising for fun...lol.
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so... will all do respect , isnt this tune totally useless and makes you kind of like a poser AKA ricer????, i mean it stalls your car, wastest tons of fuel, but it doesnt have any performance gains... i dont see a point on acting like you have better cam when you dont... please correct me if im wrong
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so... will all do respect , isnt this tune totally useless and makes you kind of like a poser AKA ricer????, i mean it stalls your car, wastest tons of fuel, but it doesnt have any performance gains... i dont see a point on acting like you have better cam when you dont... please correct me if im wrong
Actually, it just brings out the cam you have. The TiVCT hides the aggressive cam under idle conditions to make it sound more tame.
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