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Old 10-03-2012, 10:03 PM   #36
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Why anyone would chose anything other than stainless works headers is a pity beyond all telling. Haha I prefer overspending than underspending, it makes me feel like I'm a politician.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:03 PM   #37
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Which hangers?
The hangars on the x pipe
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:14 AM   #38
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hmm, mine dont have hangers. is that something you decided to add??
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I'm pretty sure the '08 exhaust is totally different than the '11-13.
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I'm pretty sure the '08 exhaust is totally different than the '11-13.
Yup, completely different
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:59 AM   #41
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well then!! That makes alot of since
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:01 AM   #42
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Yeah it is, I lifted at the front of my tranny to clear out the engine mounts to install my headers. Starter needs to be removed as well. I don't know if u can do it with the engine still mounted, I just can't imagine doing the install without doing it. Kudos to those who didn't do it and still made it work.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:10 AM   #43
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sounds like its about to get nasty for me!!!!
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:39 PM   #44
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It's coming for me...I can feel it, it's something I continue to put off. I think after the first of the year I will probably go with some headers and x-pipe.

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Beefcake racing just announced that they are carrying stainless works economy brand, stainless power. Save $400 retail for stainless power vs the stainless works. SW has a lifetime warranty and SP has a 2 year warranty and is outsourced... Seriously considering these even though I shouldn't even be looking lol
What do they mean by outsourced? Are they still made in Ohio or the US? What corners were cut to get them cheaper? And is that the big difference between the standard headers versus the stainless power, they are just outsourced?

Which is better SS or Ceramic?
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SS is better than ceramic, lasts longer, holds up better, and does not radiate as much heat. all stainless works and stainless power headers are 304 SS.

Basic breakdown of link below.

outsourced to another country because others are already doing it and stealing their design.

SW is made in Ohio, SP is not.

no corners were really cut to make them cheaper... just outsourced

Stainless Power Performance Headers & Exhausts

pay no attention to the camaro BS lol, just scroll down to the faqs

"WHY IS STAINLESS WORKS MAKING A STAINLESS POWER HEADER?
Stainless Works has been under siege from several unscrupulous companies who have taken our header designs overseas for duplication. After we use our, time, technology and money to develop these products, copycat companies simply steal them, have them manufactured at a significant discount overseas and sell them as their own. They are selling dozens of our header designs right here in the US. This practice, for which we have little recourse, has resulted in a loss of market share for our products. Stainless Works has simply taken this process as our own to combat this unscrupulous practice. All these subcontracted products will be branded and labeled as "Stainless Power".

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DOES THAT MEAN THAT STAINLESS WORKS IS NO LONGER MAKING HEADERS IN THE USA?
No, Stainless Works continues to make headers in the USA under the Stainless Works brand. Today and into the future we will continue to make the same application headers both here in our plant in Ohio as well as subcontracting under the "Stainless Power" brand. In fact, Stainless Works still is manufacturing all the lead pipes and X-pipes in our plant here, and providing catalytic converters, O2 extensions, clamps and header bolts for the Stainless Power product line.

We have, to date, selected only a few header products to be subcontracted under the "Stainless Power" brand. Not only will we continue full production for the current "Stainless Works" products, but in fact, we are currently increasing our commitment to manufacturing headers and exhaust products here in Ohio. We are breaking ground in December 2011 for a large expansion, and have ordered another all electric CNC mandrel bender with stackable tooling capable of 1D bending up to 3" dia. in 304 SS Tubing. This expansion and investment of over $1MM is designed to increase capacity and reduce lead times for our values customers proving our continued commitment to the Stainless Works' "Made in the USA" tradition.

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WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO PRODUCTS, "STAINLESS WORKS" VS. "STAINLESS POWER"?
Because we have designed both products to have very similar acceptance standards, there are few visual differences. The main differences will be in the header flanges, which are slightly different. For instance, the "Stainless Power" LS1 header flanges contain four oval holes, while our "Stainless Works" header flanges contain all round holes. We continue to provide a full lifetime warranty for our "Stainless Works" header products, but only a two year warranty for the "Stainless Power" products. We carefully control all aspects of our internally produced "Stainless Works" products, allowing us to offer a full lifetime warranty for these products, something we cannot effectively do for subcontracted "Stainless Power" products.

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HOW WILL I BE CERTAIN THAT I AM NOT GETTING THE CHEAPER HEADERS WHEN I ORDER AMERICAN MADE "STAINLESS WORKS" PRODUCTS?
Stainless Works reputation as a top designer, developer and manufacturer of American made products will never be compromised by offering the Stainless Power value product line. We have no interest in subcontracting Stainless Works products and pretending that they are made here in our facility. The two product lines are kept fully separate, boxed and stored under different part numbers, and sold under the different brands. At any time, anyone is welcome to visit our facility to verify that this is the case, 100% of the time. We are deeply committed to this, and take great pride in manufacturing Stainless Works products at our Ohio facility in the USA."

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sucks that the mid pipe is 3/4 the price of the headers lol... not sure what beefcake is selling them for though
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:29 PM   #46
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Hmmpff!!! Can't you wrap the headers to reduce the heat radiating?
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Hmmpff!!! Can't you wrap the headers to reduce the heat radiating?
You can but the header wrap is known to further promote rusting
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:55 PM   #48
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I think most I've read about said to jack up one side of the engine and drop the starter. The main reasons I haven't thought about LT's was because of all the hassle.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:59 PM   #49
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That's mostly what i have heard as well. I love the challenge of installing things myself. It's going to be a long and productive weekend for me.
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SS is better than ceramic, lasts longer, holds up better, and does not radiate as much heat. all stainless works and stainless power headers are 304 SS.

Basic breakdown of link below.

outsourced to another country because others are already doing it and stealing their design.

SW is made in Ohio, SP is not.

no corners were really cut to make them cheaper... just outsourced

[/COLOR]sucks that the mid pipe is 3/4 the price of the headers lol... not sure what beefcake is selling them for though
Come on Brother! That's a lot of reading. LOL I think paying a little extra rather than getting something that was outsourced...Cheaper isn't always better...

Thanks for the info.
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the fact that SW sells it makes me feel like they would probably cover it if any issues arise, and even they say there is no difference
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the fact that SW sells it makes me feel like they would probably cover it if any issues arise, and even they say there is no difference
Only 2 year warranty on them when the others have lifetime...
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(serious question) do other header manufacturers have a warranty? I'm sure they do but I wouldn't know how long
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I don't know. SW says the SW are lifetime and the SP are two years since they are outsourced.

Also the SW have round openings on the headers and the SP have ovals. Does this restrict airflow and how is the fitment of them?
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Can't say why for sure but in willing to bet it's to get around copyright laws in America
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How is JBA headers and o/r H pipe quality??
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Can't say why for sure but in willing to bet it's to get around copyright laws in America
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Lifting the engine up with a hoist shouldn't be too difficult..
Yea i was going to say thats really not a big deal,,probably harder to get the bolts out
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Talked to terry reeves (of beefcake racing) in person yesterday and he seemed very confident in the stainless power headers, he hasn't said anything different about them then what we have discussed but just seemed to think they're a good product in general
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BBK's arrive tomorrow. Hells yeah!!
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i was surprised they shipped the day i ordered them from AM.
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i was surprised they shipped the day i ordered them from AM.
Am is amazing with deliveries. I got stuff from them way faster than any other company I have purchased anything from.

Stuff comes in almost as if it is being shipped 2 day air.
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Here they are, waiting to be installed next weekend.. Woot, woot!!!!
Feel the excitement building
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Here they are, waiting to be installed next weekend.. Woot, woot!!!!
beware their exhaust gaskets blew out three weeks after I installed my bbk headers. I would get some better gaskets IMO. Just trying to save you time
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i have heard that a lot in fox bodys but I have had mine for 9 months now in my 2011 and I haven't had any problems
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i have heard that a lot in fox bodys but I have had mine for 9 months now in my 2011 and I haven't had any problems
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