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Old 10-02-2012, 01:55 PM   #1
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Anyone know which headers do not require lifting the engine? I was looking at the SW headers but the instructions deterred me from installing them. So, the BBK ceramic, and JBA ceramic longtubes are all options for me. Anyone with knowledge who actually installed or researched this let me know. Thanks
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Anyone know which headers do not require lifting the engine? I was looking at the SW headers but the instructions deterred me from installing them. So, the BBK ceramic, and JBA ceramic longtubes are all options for me. Anyone with knowledge who actually installed or researched this let me know. Thanks
I been doing tons of research and talked to people and nobody said anything about lifting the engine, i know a guy with SW and he did it him self in his drive way. They are all pretty much the same to install. I will be going with SW but jba is about 300$ cheaper and seems to be as good so i might change.
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Yeah, i hear you but the last thing i want is my car in pieces only to figure out there is this one bolt that involves lifting the engine to get to..
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Just to get the stock ones out, lifting the motor is recommended. I'm not sure if it's required, but I hear is it quite often
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HEADERS

I've never heard that either, anything about lifting the Engine. I have BBK Long Tube Headers and BBK X-pipe on mine.
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so far sounds good, thanks
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Lifting the engine up with a hoist shouldn't be too difficult..
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I've heard of quite a few people doin this on jack stands FWIW
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I just called my local performance shop and ask them about the lifting the engine thing and they said that they have never ever lifted an engine and they have done almost every brand of headers.
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No quoting here, but I have read that (I believe) the passenger is lifted or moved some for ease of removal of the old and the placement of the new header. To be honest I don't think I have read anywhere that someone didn't have to do this. I could be wrong.
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As far as I know all long tube installs require temporally removing at least the one side motor mount and to do that the engine must be supported by either a hoist or a floor jack. The engine never has to be lifted just supported and maybe jacked up a inch at the most. The header install on the coyote is by means a walk in the park. Especially on the ground. A lift makes it so much easier. 90% of the work is done from below. I've heard some installs we're both mounts have to come off, steering shaft removed, starter removed, and a few other intimidating components. Most shops charge about $300 for the install, IMO it's well worth it. But there in lies the problem, your car will need to be retuned after install so either have a new tune ready or have a shop do it that can tune on a dyno. Good luck to all!
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As far as I know all long tube installs require temporally removing at least the one side motor mount and to do that the engine must be supported by either a hoist or a floor jack. The engine never has to be lifted just supported and maybe jacked up a inch at the most. The header install on the coyote is by means a walk in the park. Especially on the ground. A lift makes it so much easier. 90% of the work is done from below. I've heard some installs we're both mounts have to come off, steering shaft removed, starter removed, and a few other intimidating components. Most shops charge about $300 for the install, IMO it's well worth it. But there in lies the problem, your car will need to be retuned after install so either have a new tune ready or have a shop do it that can tune on a dyno. Good luck to all!
Yeah that is probably what I have read. It's been a while since I've read a header install. But I know everyone as always said to remove something and lift the engine (or support it)...has to be a PIA regardless.
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I wouldn't do the install in a driveway if someone paid me $300.
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I wouldn't do the install in a driveway if someone paid me $300.
LOL...$400
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LOL...$400
Deal...lol. Beer included, right?
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thanks guys, mqueen wtf?? lol jk. this is something i definately want to tackle myself. Im ordering the BBK ceramic longtubes and ill keep you guys posted on the install. Thanks
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Beefcake racing just announced that they are carrying stainless works economy brand, stainless power. Save $400 retail for stainless power vs the stainless works. SW has a lifetime warranty and SP has a 2 year warranty and is outsourced... Seriously considering these even though I shouldn't even be looking lol
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nice, its hard not to think about it
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Anyone know which headers do not require lifting the engine? I was looking at the SW headers but the instructions deterred me from installing them. So, the BBK ceramic, and JBA ceramic longtubes are all options for me. Anyone with knowledge who actually installed or researched this let me know. Thanks
I just installed Bbk on mine last week. I did have to lift engine to install passenger side
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I just installed Bbk on mine last week. I did have to lift engine to install passenger side
How is the fit?
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How is the fit?
Fit is real good but the matching x pipe really didn't match. I had to get the hangers re-welded
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how much of a lift was needed and did you hoist it or use a bottle neck with blocks?
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how much of a lift was needed and did you hoist it or use a bottle neck with blocks?
I used my jack while car was on jack stands. I lifted it just high enough to clear the motor mounts
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okay, thanks alot
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just pulled the trigger on the BBK chrome longtube headers. woot, woot 😃
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awesome! why chrome?

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I would've gone at least ceramic if not stainless
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Fit is real good but the matching x pipe really didn't match. I had to get the hangers re-welded
Which hangers?
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They stood out more to me. I've always loved chrome personally. I know they dont last as long. When I begin entering my car into shows, and people start crawling under my car, lol they will see them. You know I'm kidding right? Also, the ceramics were a little more expensive, not by much, but these were within my budget.

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Which hangers?
The hangers for what exactly. The mufflers??

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Also, my doors kits, and window louvres are arriving today. Busy weekend for me transforming my car. Luckily, I have a four day weekend. Thank you Columbus! Even though you didnt even step foot in America???? Lol

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I havent broke the news about the door kits to my wife yet. I'm still trying to figure that one out. She's going to freak out when she expects the door to open normally..Lol. Oh well.. FML...
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ok, well congrats on the purchase, vids when they're installed
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Beefcake racing just announced that they are carrying stainless works economy brand, stainless power. Save $400 retail for stainless power vs the stainless works. SW has a lifetime warranty and SP has a 2 year warranty and is outsourced... Seriously considering these even though I shouldn't even be looking lol
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I know I shouldn't, but I am... I haven't done a mod in heck IDK like 4 or 5 months, it's driving me crazy...What to do, what to do...

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I havent broke the news about the door kits to my wife yet. I'm still trying to figure that one out. She's going to freak out when she expects the door to open normally..Lol. Oh well.. FML...
Is this the first you are breaking the news of the door kit to us? Seeing how it goes? What door kit?
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i mentioned it awhile back. just brought it up again 4 weeks later since it just arrived. I went with vertical doors from mr body.com. Just looked over the instructions. Everything looks pretty straight forward. I will be tackling this weekend.
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They stood out more to me. I've always loved chrome personally. I know they dont last as long. When I begin entering my car into shows, and people start crawling under my car, lol they will see them. You know I'm kidding right? Also, the ceramics were a little more expensive, not by much, but these were within my budget.
Unless Ur car is "show car" and not a DD Ur better off getting ceramic... Even a drop of oil that lands on it if its hit will look like hell and getting water and moisture ruins the look over time
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The hangers for what exactly. The mufflers??

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Also, my doors kits, and window louvres are arriving today. Busy weekend for me transforming my car. Luckily, I have a four day weekend. Thank you Columbus! Even though you didnt even step foot in America???? Lol

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I havent broke the news about the door kits to my wife yet. I'm still trying to figure that one out. She's going to freak out when she expects the door to open normally..Lol. Oh well.. FML...


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Unless Ur car is "show car" and not a DD Ur better off getting ceramic... Even a drop of oil that lands on it if its hit will look like hell and getting water and moisture ruins the look over time
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I know I shouldn't, but I am... I haven't done a mod in heck IDK like 4 or 5 months, it's driving me crazy...What to do, what to do...
sorry, I should know better by now lol

WWW.S197FORUM.COM

that's the thread to the beefcake announcement

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link to the Stainless Works/Stainless Power website

beefcake says they have a sale on these already ridiculously cheap alternative to SW LT's
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I think I just got bit by the header bug...

Noooooooooooooooooo! Yes!
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