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Old 11-07-2012, 11:07 AM   #1
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Anybody got a single piece driveshaft and how does it compare to stock
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Don't have one but it drop something like 15-25 pounds of rotating mass, and it can handle more power. It definitely frees up quite a bit of rwhp
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every 1lb of rotating = 10 dead weight or maybe a touch more and also single vs joint must help. If its 25lbs lighter thats like taking 250lbs out of the car, should add up to about what 15-20hp would feel like.
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So what your telling me is yes its worth the money lol
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Oooo yes might want one for Xmas gift
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So what your telling me is yes its worth the money lol
Ya it's definitely worth the money especially if you plan on a lot of horsepower down the road.
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Absolutely worth the money!!!
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So I take it the GT doesn't break after a certain speed?
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I mean it will after a certain speed... But no one has tested its limits yet, everyone just puts on the one piece before that happens
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its CRAZY how expensive newer DS's are for 05+. Back when I picked up my 01 I purchased a very nice Ford racing DS for 150 bucks
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Yea they're pricey, I can find them all day long under $600 used though
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Ya it's definitely worth the money especially if you plan on a lot of horsepower down the road.
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Yea they're pricey, I can find them all day long under $600 used though
Would you for see a problem with a used one? I know there are some inferior brands out there, but if you found the one AM sells which looks like the steeda I think which is supposed to be really good, would it be worth buying?
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Buying a used driveshaft is about like buying used wheels, there's not a whole lot to mess up and there's really no functional parts to them, maybe u-joints but those are fairly cheap. It's not like buying a used supercharger or anything electrical, what you see is what you get, if it looks good, it's about 99% positive it is good.

So to answer your question, yes I think buying a used driveshaft is a safe buy, and I know where to get a shaft masters aluminum DS for the manual uses for $500, shaft masters is a good brand
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every 1lb of rotating = 10 dead weight or maybe a touch more and also single vs joint must help. If its 25lbs lighter thats like taking 250lbs out of the car, should add up to about what 15-20hp would feel like.
Rule of thumb where I come from is 1lb rotating weight is equal to 4 lb of dead weight.

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Buying a used driveshaft is about like buying used wheels, there's not a whole lot to mess up and there's really no functional parts to them, maybe u-joints but those are fairly cheap. It's not like buying a used supercharger or anything electrical, what you see is what you get, if it looks good, it's about 99% positive it is good.

So to answer your question, yes I think buying a used driveshaft is a safe buy, and I know where to get a shaft masters aluminum DS for the manual uses for $500, shaft masters is a good brand
False, they are balanced(to my limited knowledge). If you drop one or it is abused, it can be trouble.

Does anyone know if a GT drive shaft would fit in a 6? Or how the 13 GT drive shafts compare to the 12 GT drivenshafts?
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Rule of thumb where I come from is 1lb rotating weight is equal to 4 lb of dead weight.

False, they are balanced(to my limited knowledge). If you drop one or it is abused, it can be trouble.

Does anyone know if a GT drive shaft would fit in a 6? Or how the 13 GT drive shafts compare to the 12 GT drivenshafts?
Wheels are also balanced, my point is that if there's an issue with it, it's generally pretty evident. Wheels can also be dropped and come out of balance

So not false
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Wheels are also balanced, my point is that if there's an issue with it, it's generally pretty evident. Wheels can also be dropped and come out of balance

So not false
So it is easy to tell if it is unbalanced? I do not know much about them, I thought it would look the same being balanced and unbalanced.

So you are saying it is fine to use an unbalanced driveshaft? And are the GTs from 2011/2012 different from 2013, and do they fit on the v6?
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The newer driveshafts are telescoping. This is what makes them so much more than the previous " driveshafts. They are designed this way in the event of a rear end collison the shaft will compact and not go up into the gas tank. they are so precisely balanced, that if they are dropped, they cannot be used again. For me, this is why I'd shy away from a used one.
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So it is easy to tell if it is unbalanced? I do not know much about them, I thought it would look the same being balanced and unbalanced.

So you are saying it is fine to use an unbalanced driveshaft? And are the GTs from 2011/2012 different from 2013, and do they fit on the v6?
It would not be fine to use an unbalanced driveshaft, that can cause major issues with the drivetrain as well as total driveshaft failure at high speeds, and will cause driveline vibration at low speeds. if there is an issue it will fairly evident as soon as you start driving. Again, my point is that its generally pretty easy to tell if they have been damaged, a visual inspection will tell you most everything about it. and they're not all that delicate, they get bumped around during shipping no doubt, and the undercarriage of a vehicle is not immune to debris, and most can support 800+ hp, so they have to be built pretty sturdy. I would not be scared to buy a used one, so long as pics are provided. and yes 11-13 would all be the same, I'm not sure about the v6 though
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It would not be fine to use an unbalanced driveshaft, that can cause major issues with the drivetrain as well as total driveshaft failure at high speeds, and will cause driveline vibration at low speeds. if there is an issue it will fairly evident as soon as you start driving. Again, my point is that its generally pretty easy to tell if they have been damaged, a visual inspection will tell you most everything about it. and they're not all that delicate, they get bumped around during shipping no doubt, and the undercarriage of a vehicle is not immune to debris, and most can support 800+ hp, so they have to be built pretty sturdy. I would not be scared to buy a used one, so long as pics are provided. and yes 11-13 would all be the same, I'm not sure about the v6 though
When you say not sure about the v6, do you mean a change or if the GT works in a 6? And thanks for clearing that up about the balance, I thought ,a good drop would do it and it would not be easily noticed.

Is there a drive shaft difference between standard and auto?
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When you say not sure about the v6, do you mean a change or if the GT works in a 6? And thanks for clearing that up about the balance, I thought ,a good drop would do it and it would not be easily noticed.

Is there a drive shaft difference between standard and auto?
I'm not sure if the GT will fit the v6, if I had to I guess I would so it will fit, but like I said it's just a guess.

yes, I know at the very least there is a length difference between the 2, not much more than an inch or 2, but definitely enough to make the incompatible
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anyone know if DS out of a 06 GT 5 speed will fit an 11-13 GT with a 6 speed?
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anyone know if DS out of a 06 GT 5 speed will fit an 11-13 GT with a 6 speed?
no, it will not, completely different transmission and will need a different length DS
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I'm not sure if the GT will fit the v6, if I had to I guess I would so it will fit, but like I said it's just a guess.

yes, I know at the very least there is a length difference between the 2, not much more than an inch or 2, but definitely enough to make the incompatible
Cool, thank you, if anyone knows and can chime in, that would be great.
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I would like a one piece driveshaft but they're so damn expensive.
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no, it will not, completely different transmission and will need a different length DS
Thank... a buddy of mine has one lying from a previous vehicle and thought it would work, oh well
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The stock driveshaft is pretty weak coming from my point of view and driving "style". I drive my 5.0 like I stole it everyday, that doesn't help for the People that don't though. Twisted the original stock two piece and separated the carrier bearing.

When that happened it also messed up the mt-82. This causing a transmission replacement that wasn't covered under warranty.

If you're gonna hop up your horse power and torque with whatever mod you are gonna do, I would recommend a one piece drive shaft as insurance. 800 for a driveshaft or 2-3k for another mt-82.

I didn't go with another mt-82, so my fixit bill was much more than 2-3k.
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The stock driveshaft is pretty weak coming from my point of view and driving "style". I drive my 5.0 like I stole it everyday, that doesn't help for the People that don't though. Twisted the original stock two piece and separated the carrier bearing.

When that happened it also messed up the mt-82. This causing a transmission replacement that wasn't covered under warranty.

If you're gonna hop up your horse power and torque with whatever mod you are gonna do, I would recommend a one piece drive shaft as insurance. 800 for a driveshaft or 2-3k for another mt-82.

I didn't go with another mt-82, so my fixit bill was much more than 2-3k.
Why didn't you just buy a better trans or s new mt-82?
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False, they are balanced(to my limited knowledge). If you drop one or it is abused, it can be trouble.

Does anyone know if a GT drive shaft would fit in a 6? Or how the 13 GT drive shafts compare to the 12 GT drivenshafts?
What about clearance problems
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Why didn't you just buy a better trans or s new mt-82?
He did, I think he went magnum XL
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Why didn't you just buy a better trans or s new mt-82?
I did buy a better transmission I bought the tremec magnum xl.
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I did buy a better transmission I bought the tremec magnum xl.
Oh I see. I thought fix it bill meant you fixed your existing mt-82. So....how much do you miss the mt-82? : )
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Oh I see. I thought fix it bill meant you fixed your existing mt-82. So....how much do you miss the mt-82? : )
I don't miss it at all, syncros were weak, gears wouldn't fully engage on reliable basis even with an aftermarket short throw in my case I had the Barton with there bracket. Never really had a problem following into third though like most are having at times.

The remote shift was nice at first, I feel that I drove it so hard at first because I couldn't feel the rpms and the vibrations that I was used to in my previous vehicles that were direct top mount transmissions. Granted still driving hard just not for miles at time sliding around corners. (ON MY TEST TRACK IN MY BACK YARD OF COURSE) I would trust my tremec over another warrantied mt82.
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I want one, but until I see what the economy and my job is gonna do...the car is on hold. All it's getting is gas and oil.
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