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Old 11-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #1
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2013 fuel economy

Seen a few in car vids of 2013 gt track packs and noticed there mileage to empty was like in the 280's mine never goes above 215 granted I do have 2000mi so far and use only premium fuel and with this gas shortage in NYC I've been really easy on the last 2 tanks and still can't get more then 200-220 out of a tank , what's up with that? Something wrong or just still breakin in?
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U know what I've noticed the same also

When i filled up at a chevron with 91 I get 280 max
One time I kid u not i reached 300 miles till empty and this was at shell gas station
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It depends on your driving habits. When I drove from Texas to California I filled up in Texas and it estimated 270 MTE. When I filled up in El Paso, Tx I actually traveled over 320 miles and this time the MTE started at 345. Also, my MPG's were right around 24.
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I have about 1600 miles on my 13' and average about 18mpg with 91octane and half city, half highway. Mileage in stop and go drops off pretty good, I wouldn't expect more than 14mpg with a lot of city driving.
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It's partially that it need to be broken in, also that you probably do a lot of city driving, and Like stated above, I have better fuel economy now that I use nothing but shell
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I've noticed it isn't accurate at all.

Take my MPG and fill the tank all the way.

16 gallon tank and at the 18.9 I am getting right now should give me 302 MTE. It usually shows around 280.

Not sure what is wrong where. My guess is Ford has it set so that on E you are not really empty and could easily make a gas station before hitting that point.

My old 2007 tundra was the same way. Off by about 20 MTE. My dad has it now and he will drive 15 miles to work with it on E.

I fill up when the tank hits 1/4 full. Never see me driving on E that's for sure.
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I have noticed that the AVG mpg calculator seems to be pretty accurate usually within a tenth or 2 of my hand calculations. Cant say the same for the "miles to empty"
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On my 6 i notice the fuel light comes on at 2.5 gallons left, roughly-it might be 2.5 gallons when we are at 0 miles eft, but I believe it is at the low fuel light.. It told me 50 miles left, and I have gone some 70 miles. It keeps telling me 0 miles left lol
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I've noticed it isn't accurate at all.

Take my MPG and fill the tank all the way.

16 gallon tank and at the 18.9 I am getting right now should give me 302 MTE. It usually shows around 280.

Not sure what is wrong where. My guess is Ford has it set so that on E you are not really empty and could easily make a gas station before hitting that point.

My old 2007 tundra was the same way. Off by about 20 MTE. My dad has it now and he will drive 15 miles to work with it on E.

I fill up when the tank hits 1/4 full. Never see me driving on E that's for sure.
Yes you don't want to run your gas pump on E it's not healthy, save your gas pump and never let it fall below 1/4 of a tank if possible.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:58 PM   #10
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Mpg and mustang should not be in the same sentence!!
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Mpg and mustang should not be in the same sentence!!
30.01 mpg this last tank, mostly city, pretty cold up here.

Whoops, didn't realize this was the GT thread, my bad
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30.01 mpg this last tank, mostly city, pretty cold up here.

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When I fill up (Shell 93), it reads between 297-302 to empty. I get 18-20 in the city....depending on how many people I wanna p!ss off, and about 23-25 on the highway....minus the speeding ticket I got Wednesday for doing 102 in a 60
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I don't find the computer to accurate at all. Sometimes it's said 500 km to empty in a full tank but mostly says 300 km to a tank. I noticed that I used to get around 350 km to a tank until I installed my catback now I get 300 or around that to a tank. Now cause I'm exhaust happy either I've tried both while driving normal and having a lead foot. I still get around the same distance to a tank heavy foot or not.
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I noticed that mine is pretty low as well, but honestly I don't care, it's the cost of admission to owning a car like this. When it's empty, I put more in, and drive it, simple as that. If you can't afford the gas, don't buy it, that's what i've always said.

I haven't had the car long, though the first thing I noticed was how soon the low fuel warning starts whining at you, I stopped and immediately topped it off though I didn't think it was that low, and only put in around maybe 11 gallons? This prompted me to wonder and then look up the fuel capacity, 16 Gallons...low fuel warning with 5 gallons left? Seems a bit excessive to me I would say.

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I noticed that mine is pretty low as well, but honestly I don't care, it's the cost of admission to owning a car like this. When it's empty, I put more in, and drive it, simple as that. If you can't afford the gas, don't buy it, that's what i've always said.

I haven't had the car long, though the first thing I noticed was how soon the low fuel warning starts whining at you, I stopped and immediately topped it off though I didn't think it was that low, and only put in around maybe 11 gallons? This prompted me to wonder and then look up the fuel capacity, 16 Gallons...low fuel warning with 5 gallons left? Seems a bit excessive to me I would say.

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Car is set at default to warn you at 50 miles left, per its calculations. Which I think are off anyway.

I canot remember for sure, but I think you can change this warning to 25, and 75.

When I first got the car it would go crazy when I hit 1/4 tank that I only had 50 miles left. Now it goes off at about half way between a 1/4 tank and E.

Since then I have changed a lot though, including what grade gas I run, and so I am assuming either that or the break in changed it.
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IIRC, there is actually 20 more miles on top of that when the light comes on... Less chance of the pump not having enough cooling being submerged in the fuel. Heat to the pump = premature failure. Adequate fuel around it = happy pump.
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IIRC, there is actually 20 more miles on top of that when the light comes on... Less chance of the pump not having enough cooling being submerged in the fuel. Heat to the pump = premature failure. Adequate fuel around it = happy pump.
Depends on fuel economy, but my last fill up was 20 miles past 0 miles left, and I had 1.251 some gallons left, so for this tank, 0 miles left meant over 60 in real life. But I agree about the fuel pump, not from experience, but from better safe than sorry.

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For everyone with a v6 not running a tune, what grade of fuel gives you the best results? Or does anyone have any info?
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I might be coming inflate here but does anybody else notice the drastic difference in millage between shifting in all gears and just going from 2-4-6? I get maybe 13-14 going 1-6 but I will get 18-20 in the city going 2-4-6
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I might be coming inflate here but does anybody else notice the drastic difference in millage between shifting in all gears and just going from 2-4-6? I get maybe 13-14 going 1-6 but I will get 18-20 in the city going 2-4-6
I drive my car too hard to do that haha. I only start in second when it is snowing. I feel like the car hates starting in second. It can but it never seems to like it.

Also unless I can drive 40 in the city and not be going up hill I cannot sit in 6th. If I had 4.10 gearing I probably could. Else wise I have to sit in 5th.

I usually go 1,2,5 in the city.
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Ya I know what you mean, the car feels like it has zero power going from2-4-6 so I hate doing it to but it just amazes me everytime I will get 18-20 in the city which is the same as my girlfriends murano
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IIRC, there is actually 20 more miles on top of that when the light comes on... Less chance of the pump not having enough cooling being submerged in the fuel. Heat to the pump = premature failure. Adequate fuel around it = happy pump.
Bingo. If the Mustang is set up the same as my Focus, there's about 1-1.5 gallons left when the estimate hits 0 miles. Yes, I've pushed it--but not quite to completely empty. I also noted the Focus computer gets really aggressive when counting the miles down after the 50 miles left warning--again I will assume the Mustang works the same way. Of course with the Focus sipping gas a 30mpg+ I have more leeway to play those games; when the Mustang says to fill up, I follow orders.
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Bingo. If the Mustang is set up the same as my Focus, there's about 1-1.5 gallons left when the estimate hits 0 miles. Yes, I've pushed it--but not quite to completely empty. I also noted the Focus computer gets really aggressive when counting the miles down after the 50 miles left warning--again I will assume the Mustang works the same way. Of course with the Focus sipping gas a 30mpg+ I have more leeway to play those games; when the Mustang says to fill up, I follow orders.
What year Focus? How good would u say it is on gas?? I'm getting a 2012 or 2013 hatchback soon, around Feb or March
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I get around 14 combined mpg on my 2012. I actually just bought a 100% electric car as my daily "beater."
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What year Focus? How good would u say it is on gas?? I'm getting a 2012 or 2013 hatchback soon, around Feb or March
2010 coupe. I was getting about 32 combined with my normal commuting. I think my wife is a little less efficient with the gearbox, so it's a bit lower now. The newer ones should do even better. I'm trying to convince her that instead of hopping up the '10 she needs the new ST. So far it's not working.
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2010 coupe. I was getting about 32 combined with my normal commuting. I think my wife is a little less efficient with the gearbox, so it's a bit lower now. The newer ones should do even better. I'm trying to convince her that instead of hopping up the '10 she needs the new ST. So far it's not working.
Just get her to test drive one. Normally that works can't talk people into stuff normally have to show them to convince.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:32 AM   #27
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in my wife's escape, in my 2011 mustang gt, and also in my 2007 gt500 they all show empty with 1 gallon left. you miles till empty is your cars computer multiplying your average mpg by the amount of gallons in your car...and since it leaves 1 gallon of gas left in the tank then it will be off by one gallon. Also I have found that when I was running different tire sizes my mpg stuff would be all out of wack
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Just for fun I ran my tank down to where my MTE was about 7 miles. I filled up at Shell and took 14.4 Gallons. While I think it's safe to say the MTE calculator isn't exactly accurate, I have no desire to see exactly how inaccurate it is...
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I have 2013 gt and i get 215 to 230 in mine nothing more
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I have a 2013 with 3.73 gears and Manual transmission and im getting consistent 19 in the city and 23 on the highway. Its all in how you drive it
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I have a 2013 with 3.73 gears and Manual transmission and im getting consistent 19 in the city and 23 on the highway. Its all in how you drive it
I read a article about some university student in India finding out the best way for fuel
Economy. He said it isn't speed at all but rpm and the perfect rpm is 1400. He claims he drove on a full tank and got double the mileage he normally got driving the speed limit and not focusing on the rpm
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Yep, how fast you're spinning the engine & engine load is what it's all about. I generally keep it about 1k-2k in DD mode, I am maintaining 20mpg even with SoCal traffic jams. I'll completely blow that this weekend though....
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I read a article about some university student in India finding out the best way for fuel
Economy. He said it isn't speed at all but rpm and the perfect rpm is 1400. He claims he drove on a full tank and got double the mileage he normally got driving the speed limit and not focusing on the rpm
This helps, also not wasting fuel. Most people ACCELERATE to redlights, rather than coast, and will race uphill then brake all the way down. And they wonder why their fuel economy sucks.
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This helps, also not wasting fuel. Most people ACCELERATE to redlights, rather than coast, and will race uphill then brake all the way down. And they wonder why their fuel economy sucks.
I accelerate hard up hills and coast/brake going down them and still get 19.2MPG right now.

What I make sure to do, is get in as high a gear as I can. So even doing 40 where my car cannot really accelerate hard in 6th, I'll sit in 6th cause the engine barley has to do any work.

When I had different gearing I could not sit in 6th though. Had to be in 5th at 40 or the car would stop and of course at some point would stall.
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I accelerate hard up hills and coast/brake going down them and still get 19.2MPG right now.

What I make sure to do, is get in as high a gear as I can. So even doing 40 where my car cannot really accelerate hard in 6th, I'll sit in 6th cause the engine barley has to do any work.

When I had different gearing I could not sit in 6th though. Had to be in 5th at 40 or the car would stop and of course at some point would stall.
Flipping that around, losing speed up hill with little throttle and gaining speed down hill with little throttle would really increase your FE. What gearing and size tires are you? 2.7 w/ 18s lets me get as low as 26 mph in 6th. I usually don't go into 6th until 29 mph, but it is good for heavy traffic, which is mostly what I drive in.
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