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Old 11-14-2012, 08:59 PM   #1
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Now that the weather is getting cooler I like setting the air with the recycle button on but the unit automatically turns it off and I find my self inhaling fumes and other people's cigarette smoke. Why can't the recycle air button stay on?
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it's gonna be like Apollo 13 in there and yer gonna have to figure out how to get the square filter in the round hole to reduce the CO2 concentration. "Houston, we have a problem..."
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Now that the weather is getting cooler I like setting the air with the recycle button on but the unit automatically turns it off and I find my self inhaling fumes and other people's cigarette smoke. Why can't the recycle air button stay on?
No idea that is odd. Do you have the Automatic climate control?
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Mine stays on.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:01 AM   #5
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No idea that is odd. Do you have the Automatic climate control?
I don't think I do.
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I don't think I do.
I haven't used the recycle button yet however I've noticed the same problem with the rear defroster. Sometimes it stays on fine, other times it will turn off a couple seconds after I turn it on.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:54 AM   #7
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Every time I turn the car on the switch is off... Is there a setting I'm missing?
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:08 AM   #8
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Sorry bro, that's all I could come up with.
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Need to know if it has Dual Automatic Temperature Control (DATC) or Electronic Manual Temperature Control (EMTC)
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:59 AM   #10
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Every time I turn the car on the switch is off... Is there a setting I'm missing?
Perhaps you can take a picture of your control cluster?
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Sorry bro, that's all I could come up with.
Ha!
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I'm just gonna guess but that looks like a manual a/c controller. I have the same. But mine always stays where I leave it. It's odd you're having this problem.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:08 PM   #14
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Need to know if it has Dual Automatic Temperature Control (DATC) or Electronic Manual Temperature Control (EMTC)
How could I tell?

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I mean... I didn't buy the car brand new.
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Yeah that's the EMTC. Let me check for any technical service bulletins and ill look at the pint points tests for your concerns.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:37 PM   #16
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Yeah that's the EMTC. Let me check for any technical service bulletins and ill look at the pint points tests for your concerns.
Thanks a bunch!!!! I really appreciate it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:45 PM   #17
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Thanks a bunch!!!! I really appreciate it.
Question, when you push max AC, it should auto set the recycle air button.

Does that happen?

I also know that if even of you have the max air button (bottom right of AC control group) going, and press the center "flow redirect" button/toggle, it turns off the recycle... But you should be able to hit the recycle button (top right of ac control group) again to get it to stay on.

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Question, when you push max AC, it should auto set the recycle air button.

Does that happen?

I also know that if even of you have the max air button (bottom right of AC control group) going, and press the center "flow redirect" button/toggle, it turns off the recycle... But you should be able to hit the recycle button (top right of ac control group) again to get it to stay on.
I'm also going to ask a question.. Don't be offended but we just need to make sure here...

The second button on the left is rear window defrost, not recycle (with the letter "r" on it)...

Is that the one that one stay on?
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Question, when you push max AC, it should auto set the recycle air button.

Does that happen?

I also know that if even of you have the max air button (bottom right of AC control group) going, and press the center "flow redirect" button/toggle, it turns off the recycle... But you should be able to hit the recycle button (top right of ac control group) again to get it to stay on.

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I'm also going to ask a question.. Don't be offended but we just need to make sure here...

The second button on the left is rear window defrost, not recycle (with the letter "r" on it)...

Is that the one that one stay on?
Yessir, if the MAX A/C is on the recycle button stays on but if I just want the vents without any A/C is when it auto turns off.

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Question, when you push max AC, it should auto set the recycle air button.

Does that happen?

I also know that if even of you have the max air button (bottom right of AC control group) going, and press the center "flow redirect" button/toggle, it turns off the recycle... But you should be able to hit the recycle button (top right of ac control group) again to get it to stay on.

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I'm also going to ask a question.. Don't be offended but we just need to make sure here...

The second button on the left is rear window defrost, not recycle (with the letter "r" on it)...

Is that the one that one stay on?
No offense taken, I really appreciate the help. I'm talking about the button with the car and the arrow going into a u-turn.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #19
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Yessir, if the MAX A/C is on the recycle button stays on but if I just want the vents without any A/C is when it auto turns off.

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No offense taken, I really appreciate the help. I'm talking about the button with the car and the arrow going into a u-turn.
Hmmm I'll have to try it tomorrow, but I think I know the issue...

If you are talking about turning off the AC entirely and just have the vents blowing, I think the recycle is only available with the AC on.

I thought you had manually selected a different vent from the center, but still had the AC button on. I'll let you know tomorrow if mine does the same... I think it might.
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There could be an issue with the control unit itself, but it really is kind of hard to try and diagnose something without being there. There are several different pinpoint tests that need to be done in order to find the root cause of why its acting like this. I checked in Ford's database, but there are no technical bulletins or service meseges.
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Hmmm I'll have to try it tomorrow, but I think I know the issue...

If you are talking about turning off the AC entirely and just have the vents blowing, I think the recycle is only available with the AC on.

I thought you had manually selected a different vent from the center, but still had the AC button on. I'll let you know tomorrow if mine does the same... I think it might.
Recycle works with AC off. recycle is always is off when I start the car this way though. It getting cold I keep the AC off as I am heating the car and not trying to cool it.

As to if the recycle stays on when I have AC on...I dont remember...lol
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I tried my recirculating button tonight wit just heat on!! The button came on and stayed on until it reached the temp the control was set on and went out!! I turned the temp mob down to a cooler setting and pushed the button and it came on again and stayed on!! I have the same controller as you!!
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Recycle works with AC off. recycle is always is off when I start the car this way though. It getting cold I keep the AC off as I am heating the car and not trying to cool it.

As to if the recycle stays on when I have AC on...I dont remember...lol
Ok... So here is how mine behaves...

When turning AC off(pushing the button) and manually selecting the vents, recycle will stay on until feet at hit, then turns off.

If going from Max AC on and simply pressing a vent select, it turns off recycle no matter what.

If going from Max AC on and pushing AC button off only, recycle will stay on until the feet vent is cycled.

Just some food for thought...

Leaving the AC button on with the heat prevents fogging. Doesn't hurt anything and I assure you it is still hot... Takes the moisture out of the air.

May not be as hot as leaving the AC button off, but better than going back and forth with the defrost mode... Which by the way works by doing the same thing...
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Ok... So here is how mine behaves...

When turning AC off(pushing the button) and manually selecting the vents, recycle will stay on until feet at hit, then turns off.

If going from Max AC on and simply pressing a vent select, it turns off recycle no matter what.

If going from Max AC on and pushing AC button off only, recycle will stay on until the feet vent is cycled.

Just some food for thought...

Leaving the AC button on with the heat prevents fogging. Doesn't hurt anything and I assure you it is still hot... Takes the moisture out of the air.

May not be as hot as leaving the AC button off, but better than going back and forth with the defrost mode... Which by the way works by doing the same thing...
Thank you sir...
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