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Old 12-04-2012, 01:07 PM   #36
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Maybe, but the last time I even heard of anyone with a cyl 8 issue was slightly before I got my car. Will be 2 years here shortly. You have a higher chance of getting killed by a shark than your cyl 8 blown from a bama tune IMHO.

Also com paired to a roush super charger it won't be that big of a jump, but the bama tune makes the car drive very different. It isn't a small change. It was a whole new car.
+1 you are sooo right.... Cyl 8 is not a big issue... They have built over 30000 coyotes in the past 2 to 3 years and a hanfull have only had cyl 8 problems from what i have read and most of them are stock... You always get a few lemons when u produce so many vehicles... The tune is worth it
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Maybe, but the last time I even heard of anyone with a cyl 8 issue was slightly before I got my car. Will be 2 years here shortly. You have a higher chance of getting killed by a shark than your cyl 8 blown from a bama tune IMHO.

Also com paired to a roush super charger it won't be that big of a jump, but the bama tune makes the car drive very different. It isn't a small change. It was a whole new car.
how could a 204 hp increase not be that big of a difference?
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how could a 204 hp increase not be that big of a difference?
Maybe hes meaning that you can get full boltons for 1500k and make 450 to 500 which compared to price of a supercharger or turbo whuch can only get you 500 something with a just a 6k kit
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how could a 204 hp increase not be that big of a difference?
I meant the bama tune wouldn't be as big of a jump as a roush super charger. Sorry wrote that in haste. It does feel like a new car with the bama tune though. It feels like more than a couple hp.
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i have thought about doing the same but 1-i dont want to void my warranty and 2-ive heard so many horror stories about the bama tunes that i just dont want the headaches.

plus im not really sure it really gives you any real performance gains, sure the dyno will say otherwise but i have seen in person. on my 4th ever pass with my 2013 5.0 car in stock form (3.73's, 6spd, summer tires) i managed an 8.4 1/8th time. i have a friend that has a tune, cai, and radials, rear lowering springs 3.73's and is an auto and he ran 8.1 in the 1/8 at the same track on the same day. im sure once i get more seat time with this car i can crack very low 8's or even high 7's. this is why i say i dont know if the tune and cai are worth it. from talking to people about the cai im finding out that the best intake is the stock one.
Heck I'm bust high 7's with 3.55 gears in a 6-speed manual completely stock, you crazy if you don't think a tune has gains on the track, my roommates car is the same as mine but he has a CAI and a bama tune and he is smokin me at the track
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Heck I'm bust high 7's with 3.55 gears in a 6-speed manual completely stock, you crazy if you don't think a tune has gains on the track, my roommates car is the same as mine but he has a CAI and a bama tune and he is smokin me at the track
My point, i bought some wheels now, still stock, im going to see my numbers compared to my crappy base wheels, i got some 305 m/t street radials, thus far i have a ran a 8.410
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Absolutely tune does a lot. Your buddies car needs a driver mod or better DA to reach full potential. Trust me drive a tuned car and you'll see
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You're going to love the overall power-band improvement of our Bama/CAI package. We see huge gains on the 4v 5.0's with these packages. Our 2012 GT "Project Black-Out" made as much as an additional 55hp & 40tq throughout the curve and peak gains of 31hp!



Regardless on what CAI you chose, you should see similar gains too, assuming your Mustang is a manual. Airaid, JLT, BBK, Steeda, etc, all make great intakes and will produce similar gains with a stock GT. I don't really think you can go wrong with whomever you choose!

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Thanks Shane! I'm getting ready to make a decision soon. I see you guys are running a sale again, and tuners and CAI combos are part of it! Every little bit of savings helps haha
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Your biggest gain will come from the tune alone, dont be quick to think or believe that the Cold air will be making the gain. I only have a tune with stock air box, and stock factory tires, automatic with 3.15 gears. Here is my best time:
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Absolutely tune does a lot. Your buddies car needs a driver mod or better DA to reach full potential. Trust me drive a tuned car and you'll see
In all fairness to him he doesn't have a tq converter so he can only launch at 2k

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Heck I'm bust high 7's with 3.55 gears in a 6-speed manual completely stock, you crazy if you don't think a tune has gains on the track, my roommates car is the same as mine but he has a CAI and a bama tune and he is smokin me at the track
Those are good #'s. my track elevation is 600ft and its hard to launch with 3.73's
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In all fairness to him he doesn't have a tq converter so he can only launch at 2k

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Those are good #'s. my track elevation is 600ft and its hard to launch with 3.73's
I am launching between 3000 and 3500 have to watch the rpms and lights at the same time , I wish they had a after market launch control. The drag way I'm running at is 50ft elevation

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In all fairness to him he doesn't have a tq converter so he can only launch at 2k

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Those are good #'s. my track elevation is 600ft and its hard to launch with 3.73's
I'm launching between 3000 and 3500 ( somewhere in there ( six speed) no sure have to watch the lights and rpms at the same time) I wish that made a quality aftermarket launch control. The drag way in running at is 50 ft elevation
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In all fairness to him he doesn't have a tq converter so he can only launch at 2k
That's not true, I've seen plenty of guys launching on street tires at 6k, you can't dump the clutch and expect much, it's all about slipping the clutch properly.
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I was so worried about the whole voiding the warranty and said screw it, I'm not racing my car but wanted more so I ordered a Steeda CAI and SCT 93 tune combo. The CAI came in and now just waiting for the tuner. I had a 2011 Camaro 2SS with a tuner and it was night and day from stock so I cant wait for the tuner to come in. If your cant decide weather or not to tune, check out a car that has a tune and drive it and you will forget all about voiding the warranty.
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I was so worried about the whole voiding the warranty and said screw it, I'm not racing my car but wanted more so I ordered a Steeda CAI and SCT 93 tune combo. The CAI came in and now just waiting for the tuner. I had a 2011 Camaro 2SS with a tuner and it was night and day from stock so I cant wait for the tuner to come in. If your cant decide weather or not to tune, check out a car that has a tune and drive it and you will forget all about voiding the warranty.
Can the dealer tell if you have used a tune on your car? Can it be un-tune or changed to stock before taking the car to the dealer for repair?
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Can the dealer tell if you have used a tune on your car? Can it be un-tune or changed to stock before taking the car to the dealer for repair?
They can tell.
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Can the dealer tell if you have used a tune on your car? Can it be un-tune or changed to stock before taking the car to the dealer for repair?
Instead of trying to cheat the warranty and ford just mod your car and assume there is not warranty
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Problem with changing your CAI with a tune required how can you change it back to stock with out the car running like crap what with the intake tube being much larger then the stock tube ? I guess if I have to go to the dealer for anything ill just let them know the car is tuned before any work is done, just be honest I guess.
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Problem with changing your CAI with a tune required how can you change it back to stock with out the car running like crap what with the intake tube being much larger then the stock tube ? I guess if I have to go to the dealer for anything ill just let them know the car is tuned before any work is done, just be honest I guess.
I doubt it happens often, but your tuner marries with your car when you tune it, and so if you take it to a dealer and they were to wipe and update the ECM, then your tuner would be divorced and then usually you have to pay SCT a fee to unlock it.

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I always have been honest it is tuned and they don't care at my dealer as long as any of my after market parts done cause the issue if there were to be one.
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Problem with changing your CAI with a tune required how can you change it back to stock with out the car running like crap what with the intake tube being much larger then the stock tube ? I guess if I have to go to the dealer for anything ill just let them know the car is tuned before any work is done, just be honest I guess.
Your better off throwing your stock airbox back in and return tune to stock b4 taking to dealer... Only way they can tell its been tuned is if u have a bigger problem which requires engineers from Ford to look deeper into the issue... Most dealers don't look that deep in
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FYI I have my Steeda CAI for sale in the classifieds
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Why are you selling it ? Just curious since I just bought one.
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It's for a stock IM and I have the boss. I still have a Steeda, but the boss specific one



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Instead of trying to cheat the warranty and ford just mod your car and assume there is not warranty
I just can't see that logic. Paying $37K for a new Mustang GT Premium and to not have a warranty?? That is why I will wait to do mods to it or cheat the warranty if I do mods.

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Your better off throwing your stock airbox back in and return tune to stock b4 taking to dealer... Only way they can tell its been tuned is if u have a bigger problem which requires engineers from Ford to look deeper into the issue... Most dealers don't look that deep in
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I just can't see that logic. Paying $37K for a new Mustang GT Premium and to not have a warranty?? That is why I will wait to do mods to it or cheat the warranty if I do mods.
I get what you mean but why should you break your car and expect ford to pay for it? I can't see the logic in that.

All you're really doing is lying by doing that. Like the saying goes, gotta pay to play. If you can't afford to break something then you can't afford to mod it
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I get what you mean but why should you break your car and expect ford to pay for it? I can't see the logic in that.

All you're really doing is lying by doing that. Like the saying goes, gotta pay to play. If you can't afford to break something then you can't afford to mod it
Glad there's still some honest folks. That's why I will wait until my warranty runs out before I add mods that will void my warranty. Don't need additional mods to play
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You don't know what your missing untill you drive a car that has a tune.
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Glad there's still some honest folks. That's why I will wait until my warranty runs out before I add mods that will void my warranty. Don't need additional mods to play
Don't know if this helps ur decision, but most ppl who have had drivetrain issues, usually show the symptoms very early... Once you break it in w/o issues, i doubt u will have any in the future, I waited around 5k ( not a DD, so I rarely drive it) and I did the Bama tune and I'm very satisfied with no issues
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Im at 9k, had some ticking sound around 6, because i put 5w50 oil, i dont have trac pac, so i changed it as fast as i could to 5w 20 and it literally went away 24hrs later, should i be worried
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Im at 9k, had some ticking sound around 6, because i put 5w50 oil, i dont have trac pac, so i changed it as fast as i could to 5w 20 and it literally went away 24hrs later, should i be worried
Is your car eating oil? Any running issues or funny smells or anything? Any more noises?
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Im at 9k, had some ticking sound around 6, because i put 5w50 oil, i dont have trac pac, so i changed it as fast as i could to 5w 20 and it literally went away 24hrs later, should i be worried
No, nothing to worry about. The trac pac cars spec 5w-50 because of what Ford deems the intended usage of the car will be. The engines in the trac pac's are no different than the regular GT's. All the same. I use Amsoil 10w-30. My car is a Spring/Summer car only though.
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do you really need a tune on this motors with just a steeda CAI? or is this just for maximizing the performance of the intake?
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do you really need a tune on this motors with just a steeda CAI? or is this just for maximizing the performance of the intake?
You need one. There tube is different than stock and you need the tune because of this.

I am sure it would run without a tune, but i doubt very well.
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