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Old 12-19-2012, 05:45 PM   #71
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No skip shift on the 13s but I must admit once you put a couple thousand on the car the shifter starts to feel like ****. You can miss gears even when driving casually and sometimes it likes to fight you
didn't know the 2013 doesn't have skip shift, that is a good thing.

yeah, another thing too, if you take the stock shifter, put it in a gear, and then push the shifter back and forth to the side, it wigglessss a lot. The camero I sat in with the MGW shifter did no such thing. It was stiff as a rock. There really is no play with that shifter, which makes it really precise.

I assume the Barton is the same. I was told by the guy who did my dyno run that I shouldn't get a hurst shifter for this car though, he said honestly the stock shifter is better, said if I have trouble getting into gears now, the hurst is worse. They had nothing but great things to say about MGW though. They don't even sell them, but they install a lot of them.
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didn't know the 2013 doesn't have skip shift, that is a good thing.

yeah, another thing too, if you take the stock shifter, put it in a gear, and then push the shifter back and forth to the side, it wigglessss a lot. The camero I sat in with the MGW shifter did no such thing. It was stiff as a rock. There really is no play with that shifter, which makes it really precise.

I assume the Barton is the same. I was told by the guy who did my dyno run that I shouldn't get a hurst shifter for this car though, he said honestly the stock shifter is better, said if I have trouble getting into gears now, the hurst is worse. They had nothing but great things to say about MGW though. They don't even sell them, but they install a lot of them.
The Barton 2 post shifter bracket will make any shifter more precise.
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The Barton 2 post shifter bracket will make any shifter more precise.
Do you have this? I'm hoping it works because I'm getting one for Christmas, but I'm not supposed to know
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The Barton 2 post shifter bracket will make any shifter more precise.
So I have heard, but I figure if I am going to put the what 70 into that, I might as well save up and go the full 380 for the MGW or 350 for the barton. I know 300ish more doesn't sound realistic, but I would rather do it right the first time.
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So I have heard, but I figure if I am going to put the what 70 into that, I might as well save up and go the full 380 for the MGW or 350 for the barton. I know 300ish more doesn't sound realistic, but I would rather do it right the first time.
I don't have it personally but I have herd that it works better than actually gettin a shifter. Although gettin it with a shifter is even better.
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I put in the mgw, feels like a completely different trams and engine. Also, mgw has the added bracket behind the shifter included. Get the heat shield though
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I guess I got a little over zealous and got a little intimidated with the idea of replacing the entire shifter... Kinda wish I spent the extra little bit and waited the extra time to get the MGW... I have the Barton with the 2 post and I'm very happy with it at least, no more missed shifts, feels solid... But I'm sitting here with the "what if I got the other" on my mind, mostly because of the NVH I'm hearing with the windows closed. I fixed it with buying multi-purpose insulation from Home Depot, much improved now
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I guess I got a little over zealous and got a little intimidated with the idea of replacing the entire shifter... Kinda wish I spent the extra little bit and waited the extra time to get the MGW... I have the Barton with the 2 post and I'm very happy with it at least, no more missed shifts, feels solid... But I'm sitting here with the "what if I got the other" on my mind, mostly because of the NVH I'm hearing with the windows closed. I fixed it with buying multi-purpose insulation from Home Depot, much improved now
yeah I heard that about the barton a while ago, which is why I put off getting a shifter. I didn't even know about the MGW until I joined this site.

I had heard it had a lot of NVH which bothered me. I don't mind some, but it all starts adding up. Good idea though adding in insulation! I have thought about doing that as there is still plenty of room under there for plenty more!
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I guess I got a little over zealous and got a little intimidated with the idea of replacing the entire shifter... Kinda wish I spent the extra little bit and waited the extra time to get the MGW... I have the Barton with the 2 post and I'm very happy with it at least, no more missed shifts, feels solid... But I'm sitting here with the "what if I got the other" on my mind, mostly because of the NVH I'm hearing with the windows closed. I fixed it with buying multi-purpose insulation from Home Depot, much improved now
I can put your concerns to rest! MGW ain't quiet
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I can put your concerns to rest! MGW ain't quiet
Stock is always the gonna be the more quiet solution, but I'm sure the heat shield helps a bit... Plus I forgot to mention that I added some dynamat around the area around the inner shift which I'm sure helps a bit plus the insulation I would say made it at least 80% more quiet, I'm much happier after that cuz when I first heard all that noise I wasn't happy at all... The starter sound like it was right next to me
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How loud is the mgw?
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What needs to happen with mu tranny to get a tremec?
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I had no clue how to drive stick but got the manual because I think if you want to own a true muscle car you get a manual and if you don't want a manual you don't get a muscle car. Now the guys who face LA or New York traffic every day I can sympathize with but if you're only going to hit traffic occassionally or maybe two or three times a week I think it should be a manual. I've sat in traffic a few times now, I don't work out ever and am weak as hell and my leg is fine afterwards. I've never experienced an older clutch but the clutch on these cars are pretty nice for traffic.
You forgot to mention, you received lessons
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What needs to happen with mu tranny to get a tremec?
$7k needs to fly out your *** with no where else to go
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The Barton 2 post shifter bracket will make any shifter more precise.
I'll be checking into that bracket. I love the feel of the stock shifter, It's the locking me out of 3rd I don't like.
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I'll be checking into that bracket. I love the feel of the stock shifter, It's the locking me out of 3rd I don't like.
I probably am too. All the things I have read about it are positive other than the noise but that's what you get when you stiffen up your shifter. Rubber = movement, metal = noise
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AN AUTO! DONT FORGOT THE MANUAL IS STILL HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS. FORD HAS FIXED IT YET. CHINA 6spd.
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My manual has never had any problems, and i drive it hard and go to the track as well.
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AN AUTO! DONT FORGOT THE MANUAL IS STILL HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS. FORD HAS FIXED IT YET. CHINA 6spd.
Where do you get is still having major problems? Not every car is has a bad one . No body comes on to report how good there trans is only how bad it is and complain. Does ford fix it yes they do so who cares if you get a warrenty is doesn't matter. Drive it until the trans is right then mod away. At the end of the day both are mustangs . Manuel = old school muscle auto = new school technology
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I think it's a matter of ppl actually knowing how to drive these MT-82... I haven't had any issues, but I would get a loud crunch in 3rd gear when cold and shifting above 2k rpms... Solution: let it warm up a little it and drive slow at the beginning while cold and it never happens using that precaution.

Unfortunately ppl get over zealous and say these transmissions are bad... U just have to know how to drive them and u will be fine
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I think it's a matter of ppl actually knowing how to drive these MT-82... I haven't had any issues, but I would get a loud crunch in 3rd gear when cold and shifting above 2k rpms... Solution: let it warm up a little it and drive slow at the beginning while cold and it never happens using that precaution.

Unfortunately ppl get over zealous and say these transmissions are bad... U just have to know how to drive them and u will be fine
Yea when mines cold it has occasional issues like that but once it's warmed up it's smooth
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I think it's a matter of ppl actually knowing how to drive these MT-82... I haven't had any issues, but I would get a loud crunch in 3rd gear when cold and shifting above 2k rpms... Solution: let it warm up a little it and drive slow at the beginning while cold and it never happens using that precaution.

Unfortunately ppl get over zealous and say these transmissions are bad... U just have to know how to drive them and u will be fine
I havent had any issues EXCEPT.....Crunch?! Lol these 6 speeds are junk compared to tremecs. They wont hold up when you start making serious power. Ford dropped the ball on these transmissions, everybody knows it.
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What are you talking about ? There are manuals pushing 800 hp what more do you need . And isn't the tranny in the gt500 which is a easy 900 hp car with upgrades. People hate on the trans but not every one is bad guess what it will probably be in the 2015 to so deal with it
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What are you talking about ? There are manuals pushing 800 hp what more do you need . And isn't the tranny in the gt500 which is a easy 900 hp car with upgrades. People hate on the trans but not every one is bad guess what it will probably be in the 2015 to so deal with it
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Show me those 800+ still rocking an mt82 after a year or so and I will be impressed. As for the gt500, YES it does just fine with its TREMEC transmission.

No one is bashing on manuals in general, wer discussing the limitations of the manual in the GT. I plan to put over 600 at my crank and don't regret getting the stick. It does, however, have limitations (I say a lower figure than that of the auto), but I will be within the 'safe' range of those limitatikns.
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Show me those 800+ still rocking an mt82 after a year or so and I will be impressed. As for the gt500, YES it does just fine with its TREMEC transmission.

No one is bashing on manuals in general, wer discussing the limitations of the manual in the GT. I plan to put over 600 at my crank and don't regret getting the stick. It does, however, have limitations (I say a lower figure than that of the auto), but I will be within the 'safe' range of those limitatikns.
Yeah i thing the mt82 is only rated at 380ish tq

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my old analogy to this tho, is yes the auto may be faster on the drag strip, but only because you have a computer doing the work. Two completly stock cars race, one auto, one manual, auto will win. Then run two manuals, now the guy that won in the auto, might loose because it all comes down to skill.

now for the analogy. You and me are both given a complex math problem, you get to use a calculator and I don't. Chances are extremely high you will solve the problem much faster than me. Now take away the calculator, and now you have to use skill to beat me, and if I am better at math than you, you will loose .

yes a computer will usually win, what do you expect. That just says how good the car is, nothing about the driver.

Same reason I've seen 9 second cars run 11s. Bad drivers.
Actually stock for stock the manual is faster if you have 3.73s, an auto with just a tuner will be faster though
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Just tired of seeing all these damn threads about the mt 82 if you have one and arnt happy trade it in . Really hurts the reputation of the stang when someone googles problems all they see is trans threads . Based on paper people would go get a cammaro which doesn't have trans issues. ( they just suck to look at )

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No means saying it doesn't have issues. But I really wanted to get a stick but after all these threads I may end up in a auto just depressing is all
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mine is a stick and love it, but lots of traffic does suck sometimes, but when i see autos consistantly turning good numbers on the strip sometimes i wish i had one but other than that go stick WAY MORE FUN!!

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I had a Camaro tonight for dinner, LOL those thing suck and are boat anchors
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mine is a stick and love it, but lots of traffic does suck sometimes, but when i see autos consistantly turning good numbers on the strip sometimes i wish i had one but other than that go stick WAY MORE FUN!!

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I had a Camaro tonight for dinner, LOL those thing suck and are boat anchors
If you think that's a anchor you should drive a challenger plus the e-brake is on the floor Wtf ....4 pedals Lmao dodge fcked up bad.
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Just tired of seeing all these damn threads about the mt 82 if you have one and arnt happy trade it in . Really hurts the reputation of the stang when someone googles problems all they see is trans threads . Based on paper people would go get a cammaro which doesn't have trans issues. ( they just suck to look at )

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No means saying it doesn't have issues. But I really wanted to get a stick but after all these threads I may end up in a auto just depressing is all
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If you think that's a anchor you should drive a challenger plus the e-brake is on the floor Wtf ....4 pedals Lmao dodge fcked up bad.
i atleast like the look of the challenger, the camaro just sucks all the way around, mustangs are the top dog on the street unless you run into a rare vette or something, but most people who have a car capable of beating the stang cant drive or are too old to
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i atleast like the look of the challenger, the camaro just sucks all the way around, mustangs are the top dog on the street unless you run into a rare vette or something, but most people who have a car capable of beating the stang cant drive or are too old to
LMAO...well said!
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