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Old 12-23-2012, 09:47 PM   #106
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Test drove the V6 Roush RS too.

Let me tell you, that think is a TURD!!!!
I couldn't wait to get out of it.
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Lol +1

The Roush RS was a complete disappointment
My 300zx has more umphh than the RS

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And after driving the 13 5.0, I don't see why there is a need to put in a short throw shifter.
Was smooth and precise. The factory shifter has short throws in itself IMHO
WAS QUITE IMPRESSED
Why disn't you guys like the RS? Were you expecting more than a regular v6?
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I have a manual and sit in traffic everyday, it depends on you, my leg never hurts or gets Tired, bc this manuals are not old school with a super heavy clutch.
IMO if you want the full muscle and fun car experience get a Manual car. It was never a question for me.

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It also makes the exhaust sound nicer when you down shift and tell people to get out of your way by revving your engine
I sit in traffic with my manual pretty often as well. My leg has been getting used to it, though. I no longer feel the soreness that I felt in the very beginning. The clutch isn't too heavy either. The only catch is that I have to carry driving shoes everywhere I go. If I go out to a party, I gotta throw my heels in the trunk, and then change into them when I get there lol I always have trouble shifting gears in heels because I can't "feel" the car as well.

I can't go back to an auto now, but that's just me. The manual is so much more engaging
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I love my Auto, if your used to a Manual go with a Manual.

The 6 speed Auto isn't bad though with sport shift, will probably be even better when I get a tuner and customize the shift points & firmness. Plus (FYI) you can't get remote start with a manual as far as I know. Which for me remote start was a cool deal to get.
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I love my Auto, if your used to a Manual go with a Manual.

The 6 speed Auto isn't bad though with sport shift, will probably be even better when I get a tuner and customize the shift points & firmness. Plus (FYI) you can't get remote start with a manual as far as I know. Which for me remote start was a cool deal to get.
Someone had remote start on a Stang here. They did not have it done, the previous owner did, and they never used it, I am just saying allegedly it has been done.
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It Is the old question.

I love my Auto and i want miss it. If my Pony was on the dyno for my roush supercharger they modified the automatic stages. So it is perfect for me

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Someone had remote start on a Stang here. They did not have it done, the previous owner did, and they never used it, I am just saying allegedly it has been done.
Yeah you can get remote start with a manual...

I forget the exact details but there is a process you have to follow every time you shut the car off or you won't be able to remote start it.

I've thought about doing it, but it means giving up my spair key and I don't really think I'd use it that often other than to show off.
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Yeah you can get remote start with a manual...

I forget the exact details but there is a process you have to follow every time you shut the car off or you won't be able to remote start it.

I've thought about doing it, but it means giving up my spair key and I don't really think I'd use it that often other than to show off.
I had one on a manual, you had to have the car on and push the button. The whole dash flickers 2 times then you turn it off with it in neutral and then can turn it on afterwards with the button. To me it's not right to have one on a manual as they bypass the starter and have it start without the clutch etc
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I live in LA too, I got a stick and will never regret it.
I always commute to school on the 5N to school then from 10w to 101 N through downtown n Hollywood and its not as bad as I thought
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Just came across this thread.

I have been a manual guy for a long time. Every sporty car (and even most of the ones that weren't) I've had have been manual.

I have always said "muscle cars shouldn't be auto."

BUT- I love my auto. From all I have read and been told by friends in performance industry the auto in the new GT is superior to the manual- period.

It's nice after all those years of laboring in traffic and buying clutches that would hold more power to just put your foot down and listen to the car scream.
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Just came across this thread.

I have been a manual guy for a long time. Every sporty car (and even most of the ones that weren't) I've had have been manual.

I have always said "muscle cars shouldn't be auto."

BUT- I love my auto. From all I have read and been told by friends in performance industry the auto in the new GT is superior to the manual- period.

It's nice after all those years of laboring in traffic and buying clutches that would hold more power to just put your foot down and listen to the car scream.
Yup, i agree with you, i love my 13 auto, wouldn't change it for a manual
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Just came across this thread.

I have been a manual guy for a long time. Every sporty car (and even most of the ones that weren't) I've had have been manual.

I have always said "muscle cars shouldn't be auto."

BUT- I love my auto. From all I have read and been told by friends in performance industry the auto in the new GT is superior to the manual- period.

It's nice after all those years of laboring in traffic and buying clutches that would hold more power to just put your foot down and listen to the car scream.
It is also like taking steroids and playing sports, cheating. I say this everytime this debate comes up. Take two people in identical auto cars and they will get similar times for say a 1/4 or autocross times. Then give both people manuals and they will get far different track or 1/4 mile times.

Takes more skill to drive a manual and even though an auto will be faster on the 1/4 mile a manual will always be faster on autocross/track.

EDIT: TO add, I don't care you drive an auto, just don't ever tell me your some amazing diver when your car does half the work for you
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Driving is more than pushing pedals.

I have had manuals for years... The Auto is nice.

It's also the better/stronger of the two trannies.
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Driving is more than pushing pedals.

I have had manuals for years... The Auto is nice.

It's also the better/stronger of the two trannies.
think you missed my points entirely...

while it is more than pushing pedals, drag racing isn't with an auto. you slam the gas and go...your car does the rest.

autocross your car with an auto can't think ahead and when you slow down into a turn it will more than likely be in the wrong gear, with a manual you can have it in the right gear to blow out of the turn, with an auto it has to reshift into the correct gear then go.
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You act like I've never had a manual....

I see your point, I just disagree.
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You act like I've never had a manual....

I see your point, I just disagree.
I guess I will continue too since the rest of the auto industry leans my way...

I mean look at formula 1, they don't allow fully automatic gear boxes because they require zero skill to drive. Gears boxes can have hydraulic clutches and change with paddle shifters but the driver is still required to shift the car, not just sit and mash the gas and brake pedal.

just saying!
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You don't like disagreement do you?

It's nice to not labor in traffic or spend a bunch on clutches of you mod it.

It also happens to be the better tranny. The auto in the new GT is awesome.

Why can't you just leave it at that? Just because someone owns a manual doesn't mean they're a good driver. "Just saying"
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You don't like disagreement do you?

It's nice to not labor in traffic or spend a bunch on clutches of you mod it.

It also happens to be the better tranny. The auto in the new GT is awesome.

Why can't you just leave it at that? Just because someone owns a manual doesn't mean they're a good driver. "Just saying"
what is funny is you are agreeing with me but probably don't like that you are.

statement #1. I agree with you but that is because you have chosen a ride that is easier to drive and there is nothing wrong with that. Still requires more skill to drive a manual well.

Statement #2 I don't disagree it is a better built tranny in this case but in general and still here there are many benefits to a manual. Better autocross times being one along with more control. Also the stock GT auto has terrible shift points that require a tune to fix. Don't need a tune to fix the manuals shift points.

Statement #3 This right here makes my point. Manual requires skill and not everyone can drive one well. Hence why it is a real competition driving one. You can always improve. Everyone can drive an auto, but less than 20% of americans can even drive a manual anymore and the percentage that can probably drive one well is way smaller.

I don't see what is wrong with me debating with you. I have been nothing but friendly about it and have made my points clear. Your the one who seems to not like the debate.

Nothing wrong with debate.
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Most people on were are going to hate me but im 16 and have a 2013 Mustang 5.0 auto and I love but it has sport shift mode you could change the gear when ever you want It will be better it was manual but my parents bought me the car and I was all surprise
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what is funny is you are agreeing with me but probably don't like that you are.

statement #1. I agree with you but that is because you have chosen a ride that is easier to drive and there is nothing wrong with that. Still requires more skill to drive a manual well.

Statement #2 I don't disagree it is a better built tranny in this case but in general and still here there are many benefits to a manual. Better autocross times being one along with more control. Also the stock GT auto has terrible shift points that require a tune to fix. Don't need a tune to fix the manuals shift points.

Statement #3 This right here makes my point. Manual requires skill and not everyone can drive one well. Hence why it is a real competition driving one. You can always improve. Everyone can drive an auto, but less than 20% of americans can even drive a manual anymore and the percentage that can probably drive one well is way smaller.

I don't see what is wrong with me debating with you. I have been nothing but friendly about it and have made my points clear. Your the one who seems to not like the debate.

Nothing wrong with debate.
Dude i would love to meet you to park you no lie, i love my stang but wtf is the point of auto crossing a stang, their out of league, as much as u modify and z06, gtr etc ill park u and me with w.e we have, just drop it, enjoy ur manual and ill enjot my auto. End of thread
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Dude i would love to meet you to park you no lie, i love my stang but wtf is the point of auto crossing a stang, their out of league, as much as u modify and z06, gtr etc ill park u and me with w.e we have, just drop it, enjoy ur manual and ill enjot my auto. End of thread
I can't believe you just said that lmfao.
Come on ozzy you know better than that! Lol
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I think auto cross is valid for a Stang. I also prefer standard.
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I can't believe you just said that lmfao.
Come on ozzy you know better than that! Lol
Ill take off the 20s lmfao! Man this never stops talking shyt, always has a ****ing stupid opnion, auto vs manual, theyre both good, some better here and there, but thats it.
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The new auto has improved but stock for stock the manual will take the auto at the drag strip every time as long as the manual doesn't miss a gear.
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I think auto cross is valid for a Stang. I also prefer standard.
Just like you can autocross a civic, for heaven sake me and Mcqueen saw one actually keeping up on Sunday, buts its honestly debatable subject that could make this thread 20 pages longer, my point is not to start saying opinion to ppl that are happy and are not taking away from either or

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The new auto has improved but stock for stock the manual will take the auto at the drag strip every time as long as the manual doesn't miss a gear.
Nvm im unsubscribing from thia thread lol!
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It is also like taking steroids and playing sports, cheating. I say this everytime this debate comes up. Take two people in identical auto cars and they will get similar times for say a 1/4 or autocross times. Then give both people manuals and they will get far different track or 1/4 mile times.

Takes more skill to drive a manual and even though an auto will be faster on the 1/4 mile a manual will always be faster on autocross/track.

EDIT: TO add, I don't care you drive an auto, just don't ever tell me your some amazing diver when your car does half the work for you
I have to disagree. The manual will beat the auto almost every time stock for stock. I have a manual with 3:31 and have beat an auto with 3:31 gears 3 out of 4 times. ( the only time I missed third gear.)
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Just like you can autocross a civic, for heaven sake me and Mcqueen saw one actually keeping up on Sunday, buts its honestly debatable subject that could make this thread 20 pages longer, my point is not to start saying opinion to ppl that are happy and are not taking away from either or
Don't compare a civic to a 5.0.
My track pack is name that for a reason, and yesterday you saw that it preform pretty good at the track with just suspension.
A manual 5.0 can most definable be upgraded to a z06 and gtr level around a road course/ autocross and still cost less than both.
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Don't compare a civic to a 5.0.
My track pack is name that for a reason, and yesterday you saw that it preform pretty good at the track with just suspension.
A manual 5.0 can most definable be upgraded to a z06 and gtr level around a road course/ autocross and still cost less than both.
I'm sorry but a civic will beat a 5.0........








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Dude i would love to meet you to park you no lie, i love my stang but wtf is the point of auto crossing a stang, their out of league, as much as u modify and z06, gtr etc ill park u and me with w.e we have, just drop it, enjoy ur manual and ill enjot my auto. End of thread
lol awww your so cute trying to be a badass on the internet. Want a cookie? The fact your threatening me means I have caused you to second guess your choice. Else wise you would have brought valid points instead of personal attacks and incorrect points.

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Ill take off the 20s lmfao! Man this never stops talking shyt, always has a ****ing stupid opnion, auto vs manual, theyre both good, some better here and there, but thats it.
LOL see comment above

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I think auto cross is valid for a Stang. I also prefer standard.
THe 2011 Mustang 5.0 beat the 2011 BMW M3 on the track per Motortrend. They called the M3 the winner because it was a smoother more controlled ride. Love to see a fully upgraded suspension Mustang compete against the M3, wouldn't see motortrend dare to call the mustang a looser again. Also still cost less than half the M3.

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Just like you can autocross a civic, for heaven sake me and Mcqueen saw one actually keeping up on Sunday, buts its honestly debatable subject that could make this thread 20 pages longer, my point is not to start saying opinion to ppl that are happy and are not taking away from either or

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Nvm im unsubscribing from thia thread lol!
THis thread was created to debate an auto and a manual. I did exactly that. WTF does a civic have to do with anything?

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I have to disagree. The manual will beat the auto almost every time stock for stock. I have a manual with 3:31 and have beat an auto with 3:31 gears 3 out of 4 times. ( the only time I missed third gear.)
Stock for stock yes because the stock auto shift points suck, an auto with a torque convertor and the right tires and gears will smoke a manual 5.0 on the drag race.

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Don't compare a civic to a 5.0.
My track pack is name that for a reason, and yesterday you saw that it preform pretty good at the track with just suspension.
A manual 5.0 can most definable be upgraded to a z06 and gtr level around a road course/ autocross and still cost less than both.
I rarely say this, but I agree with McQueen!
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You guys are so childish.. arguing about what's better manual or auto.. in order for a manual to beat an auto you have to be a great shifter.. which I doubt half of you are..
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lol awww your so cute trying to be a badass on the internet. Want a cookie? The fact your threatening me means I have caused you to second guess your choice. Else wise you would have brought valid points instead of personal attacks and incorrect points.

LOL see comment above

THe 2011 Mustang 5.0 beat the 2011 BMW M3 on the track per Motortrend. They called the M3 the winner because it was a smoother more controlled ride. Love to see a fully upgraded suspension Mustang compete against the M3, wouldn't see motortrend dare to call the mustang a looser again. Also still cost less than half the M3.

THis thread was created to debate an auto and a manual. I did exactly that. WTF does a civic have to do with anything?

Stock for stock yes because the stock auto shift points suck, an auto with a torque convertor and the right tires and gears will smoke a manual 5.0 on the drag race.

I rarely say this, but I agree with McQueen!
Dude you like pulling my balls and ill pull yours, im tired and your the only person that talks mad shyt here, **** it, some type of entertainment lol
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You guys are so childish.. arguing about what's better manual or auto.. in order for a manual to beat an auto you have to be a great shifter.. which I doubt half of you are..
...not 100% true? your childish for not reading the comments and seeing the fallacy of your argument.

I am sick of typing the same points out because people cannot read them the first time...

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Dude you like pulling my balls and ill pull yours, im tired and your the only person that talks mad shyt here, **** it, some type of entertainment lol
talking ****? Because I am stating an opinion? I also wasn't the first one to start talking **** to other people. You did. I just returned your childish behavior!
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I love these threads. Just to add to the fire it seriously take no talent to drive a automatic. What I mean is that my grandma can get in any automatic no matter the power about still be able to drive but you actually have to be able to drive with a manual. I will admit that I am no where near a pro driver but I'm still better than every automatic driver, sorry but it's true whether you'll admit it or not.
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...not 100% true? your childish for not reading the comments and seeing the fallacy of your argument.

I am sick of typing the same points out because people cannot read them the first time...

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talking ****? Because I am stating an opinion? I also wasn't the first one to start talking **** to other people. You did. I just returned your childish behavior!
Okay bro you win, shyt aside manuals and autos are both good bro, ppl have differ prespectives at the time of deciding either becuase of traffic, they share with tje wife or want a manual for self enjoyment blah blah i could go on, just dont call out on everyone, share info instead of telling me off, which i know you share some good info sometimes but keep the sarcasm or w.e u call it to a minimum
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