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Old 12-09-2012, 02:24 PM   #1
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Is this all i need to lower and the right combination of prts?

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Looks like you're all set to me!
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Cool, looks like that's my Christmas so ill post pics of the install and before and after drop in about 30 days.
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One thing you will probably also need are lower control arm relocation brackets. When you lower the car you'll change the geometry of the lower control arms. Instead of being level they'll be lower in front. You'll see what I mean after you've lowered it.
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I need a set of these myself
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I run the BMR lower control arms and their relocation brackets. They have three holes to choose from. I use the middle hole for now with street tires. Once I order my Weld RT-S wheels and tires I'll probably put it back in the middle hole. You want the control arms level or for better traction lower in the rear. When you lower the car it changes the geometry so the control arms will be lower in the front.
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Ok thanks I forgot about those, do the ever drag on anything? They look like the sit pretty low
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #8
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I have Eibach's Pro Street coil overs along with Eibach's adjustable lca's and BMR adjustable pan hard bar on order will I need the lca relocation brackets as well? I will not Lower more than 1.5'' until I hit the track.
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Ok thanks I forgot about those, do the ever drag on anything? They look like the sit pretty low
No but you are correct they sit pretty low. The only time they may cause a problem would be a car ash.
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I have Eibach's Pro Street coil overs along with Eibach's adjustable lca's and BMR adjustable pan hard bar on order will I need the lca relocation brackets as well? I will not Lower more than 1.5'' until I hit the track.
Yes absolutey to correct the angle.
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No but you are correct they sit pretty low. The only time they may cause a problem would be a car ash.

Yes absolutey to correct the angle.
Thanks after I read the post I thought I would need them. Will anything be needed up front?
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A lot of ppl have different opinions towards the necessary mods need to occasionally,(once a month) track, as in 1/8.or 1/4 and it being the fun daily driver, this is my list thus far, anything i dont really need or something i should add? Im not going to be on any road circuits this helps the post, not trying to steal it

Ford Racing upgrade front strut mount
Tokico adjustable strut/shocks
K or P springs, not sure yet
Panhard bar bmr
Jounce stops
Sway bar
Lower control arm relocation brackets
Tubular rear lower control arms
Thanks for any info, i have a base ,2013 5.0, if i could save money on any of these to do in the future it would be great to know
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Couple things I ran into when I recently did suspension.

If you put drop springs on stock struts/shocks, you are working those outside of their optimal range. This will wear them faster and also hurt performance. Also, Grabber is right about relo brackets, but you may also want to consider an adjustable UCA to help line it up and lock it in the right place. And then why not get new LCAs, right
I may have gone overboard myself, but if you really want the car to be set up 'right', you should do it all now, minus sway bars. It's pricey though and not necessary
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I opted to get something other than just parts this year but shocks/struts will probably be my next mod next year.
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Couple things I ran into when I recently did suspension.

If you put drop springs on stock struts/shocks, you are working those outside of their optimal range. This will wear them faster and also hurt performance. Also, Grabber is right about relo brackets, but you may also want to consider an adjustable UCA to help line it up and lock it in the right place. And then why not get new LCAs, right
I may have gone overboard myself, but if you really want the car to be set up 'right', you should do it all now, minus sway bars. It's pricey though and not necessary
Yeah i heard the sway bar is the only thing i dont have to worry, but yeah suspension is easily 2k getting good deals

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Yeah i heard the sway bar is the only thing i dont have to worry, but yeah suspension is easily 2k getting good deals
A good setup suspension*

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Yeah i heard the sway bar is the only thing i dont have to worry, but yeah suspension is easily 2k getting good deals

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A good setup suspension*
Im getting the laguna seca wheels soon and my front and side splitter and im going straight with the full suspension this summer
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Seems to be a decent list, other grabber is mostly right about the relo brackets. Are the needed, no, but highly recommended. Otherwise suspension geometry is off and you're not getting optimal traction. I have had my car lowered for over 20k miles and have no issues except launch traction. My suspension is almost complete, mostly lacking these brackets
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Sorry to interrupt fellas, but this is very good info for a newbe like me

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Yeah i heard the sway bar is the only thing i dont have to worry, but yeah suspension is easily 2k getting good deals

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A good setup suspension*

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Im getting the laguna seca wheels soon and my front and side splitter and im going straight with the full suspension this summer
Honestly, $2k is putting it mildly. If you get decent stuff, you are sitting just over 2k on parts without the LCAs/UCa and relo. Add 600. Then do it yourself or pay a grand plus for labor. I did suspension plus driveshaft w/loop and was almost enough for a supercharger. People underestimate suspension. She feels like a I am sitting on a blender, but holds the road like she owns it. Some would say the weakness with the 5.0 is the suspension (race a WRX on a road track), so it may be one of the most effective mods. 400+ hp is massive. If you want to win, suspension should be taken very seriously.

If you are not tracking it, then maybe some parts are over the top (sway bars). Dropping should always get relo brackets, LCAs and a panhard though, even if u r sticking with the stock struts and shocks.

Edit: I said add 600, but that did not include relo bracket cost. And if you're tracking, weld that chit... Don't just bolt
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nice list. need to get similar stuff after Christmas!!!
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officially ordered all the parts but could somebodt help me out with how to adjust everything after I get it installed. I am installing everything myself so should I just take it somewhere and have them adjust the bolts and panhard bar after I get done?
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officially ordered all the parts but could somebodt help me out with how to adjust everything after I get it installed. I am installing everything myself so should I just take it somewhere and have them adjust the bolts and panhard bar after I get done?
Good question I have order the Eibach coil overs and BMR pan Hard bar and Eibach's lca's and I was wondering how hard was it to get it all lined up.
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officially ordered all the parts but could somebodt help me out with how to adjust everything after I get it installed. I am installing everything myself so should I just take it somewhere and have them adjust the bolts and panhard bar after I get done?
Just adjust it yourself, it's too easy. Which pan hard rod do you have?
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officially ordered all the parts but could somebodt help me out with how to adjust everything after I get it installed. I am installing everything myself so should I just take it somewhere and have them adjust the bolts and panhard bar after I get done?
If you are mechanically inclinded you will breeze thru.If not you still can but just do alot of asking.Alot of things make difference in correctly doing things. TQ. for the different bolts are important and lots of people even dealerships will not TQ susp. stuff. Do you have plenty of tools.You got jack and jack stands? You ain't soft are ya?..LOL! just picking but you gotta get with it and you can do it pretty quick.


I do not know if you got your adjustable PH bar by J&M that you mentioned or not.I noticed they were out of stock.I have one with AM receipt thats not 90 days old and maybe 1200-1500 miles.Dependinmg on your location I sale and ship it to you and save you some.Mine has the 90 degree fitting too. If you do have the PHBAR and it's straight fittings on both which J&M will be Go ahead and replace the one with a 90 degree.I have plenty of 90 and 45 which work well too.
Hotchkis location point of grease fitting doesn,t require changing. Alot or most all others do need the 90.
If you or someone needs a J&M hit me up.IT will literally look BNIB when you get it.Already greased with top notch grease too.
I will post pic in for sale section as soon as my Koni's arrive and I get out there and do koni's , PH brace and PH bar I just got.All my susp. stuff will be in large majority of same color and company. Debating on painting all my parts the GB blue paint I have but it will get dirty under there and plus I like the not so obvious look when someone rolls up on me...LOL! Kinda hard to hide the FRPP "K" 1.5 drop...LOL!But They don,t need or will noticed much else.
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Just adjust it yourself, it's too easy. Which pan hard rod do you have?
Yes I got the j&m ph bar.
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It's very simple to adjust once installed. All you really have to do is turn the adjustment bar from underneath the car until the wheels seem to be sitting inside the wheel well an equal distance on both sides, then tighten the nuts on both sides and voila you're done
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I have the Steeda adjustable panhard
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I too have the Steeda adjustable panhard bar. Just put it on tonight, actually. Re-centered the rear axle nicely.
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I see an eibach box, whatcha got there?
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Looks like the springs and sway kit... When I got my Pro-Plus kit, it was a huge box that took up my entire trunk
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Sportlines, panhard bar, bolts
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Looks like the springs and sway kit... When I got my Pro-Plus kit, it was a huge box that took up my entire trunk
I have my Eibach lca's and BMR PH bar and waiting on the Eibach coil overs. I ordered them a couple weeks ago and they are still making them, they said it would be middle of January can't wait. I didn't realize they build as needed or maybe they are running behind on production. Hope the wait is worth it.
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I too am lowering my stang with the pro kit. For such a minor drop do I need the relo brackets also. I hope not because I don't want to spend more money. I already have camber bolts, adj phb, and springs.
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I too am lowering my stang with the pro kit. For such a minor drop do I need the relo brackets also. I hope not because I don't want to spend more money. I already have camber bolts, adj phb, and springs.
You do not need them, however they will put your suspension geometry back the way it should be, you lcas will have an uphill slant, thus providing less traction, and the relo brackets will correct this
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I am going to end up doing springs, strut mounts, caster camber bolts, and possibly relo brackets and upper control arm. Hopefully going to install in a week or two.
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