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Old 12-18-2012, 09:31 AM   #1
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Benefits of an o/r h pipe

I'm considering this with my borla s type. What kind of benefits will I see with hp and sound? I like the way my exhaust sounds now, so I'm worried an o/r h will make it sound worse. What do you guys think?
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I also have the same setup and thinking what an or/h would sound like with Borla S... I've tried to look up ppl with this setup but no luck yet
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Well I have an h pipe with 10 series sounds like a classic muscle car that was what I was going for so sound is pretty awesome lol but for hp gain I don't think you will see if any at all either of you guys running a tune that will help a little bit
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Since the cats would be coming off I think it's like 10-15 rwhp gain
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^^ that would be awesome but very unlikely that's a lot for just an exhaust
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I also have the same setup and thinking what an or/h would sound like with Borla S... I've tried to look up ppl with this setup but no luck yet
Me either later tonight or tomorrow sort of.

Borla stingers getting paired with my JBA o/r X not an h.

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^^ that would be awesome but very unlikely that's a lot for just an exhaust
Not true. The 5.0 mustang sees gains of 15-20 rwhp by removing the cats.
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Me either later tonight or tomorrow.

Borla stingers getting paired with my JBA o/r X.

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Not true. The 5.0 mustang sees gains of 15-20 rwhp by removing the cats.
Never seen h pipe gains on the new 5.0 so you might be correct but that might be with a tune I no my 5.0 doesn't feel like it got much of a gain but I also don't have it tuned

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^^ ooo an I have an old 5.0 not a new one lol
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Never seen h pipe gains on the new 5.0 so you might be correct but that might be with a tune I no my 5.0 doesn't feel like it got much of a gain but I also don't have it tuned
You changed out the stock h pipe for an after market h pipe?

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Never seen h pipe gains on the new 5.0 so you might be correct but that might be with a tune I no my 5.0 doesn't feel like it got much of a gain but I also don't have it tuned

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^^ ooo an I have an old 5.0 not a new one lol
Yeah we are talking the new 5.0 haha.
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Yea it's an aftermarket or hpipe and yea it's the classic 302 sounds like a boss so I think money well spent I wish I had a new 5.0 lol
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Never seen h pipe gains on the new 5.0 so you might be correct but that might be with a tune I no my 5.0 doesn't feel like it got much of a gain but I also don't have it tuned

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^^ ooo an I have an old 5.0 not a new one lol
I think you might be confusing what he said with what you mean. He wants an o/r H, not just an H, so since he's taking the Cats off that's where the 15-20 hp gain comes from
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I think you might be confusing what he said with what you mean. He wants an o/r H, not just an H, so since he's taking the Cats off that's where the 15-20 hp gain comes from
I don't think he is confusing them. Not all cars benefit from removing the cats. I've actually heard the old school 5.0 engines actually can perform worse without cats.
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If only I could read, nevermind haha I just assumed new since this is in the 2010-2014 section haha
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If only I could read, nevermind haha I just assumed new since this is in the 2010-2014 section haha
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So an o/r x will give me about 10-15 hp and more volume? I wish I could here it person before I buy it.
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So an o/r x will give me about 10-15 hp and more volume? I wish I could here it person before I buy it.
Yes sir.
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I'm actually considering doing the quad tip gt500's and an o/r x. I think this will be the sound I'm looking for. I think the s type will be too loud with the o/r x, but I can't wait to see your vid!
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So an o/r x will give me about 10-15 hp and more volume? I wish I could here it person before I buy it.
Something I ran across when researching exhaust HP gains

http://youtu.be/KF0lHiLs4X4
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I'm actually considering doing the quad tip gt500's and an o/r x. I think this will be the sound I'm looking for. I think the s type will be too loud with the o/r x, but I can't wait to see your vid!
Yeah won't be up tonight as I won't be home until 9 and then eat and then maybe install them if I feel up to it. By then I would make all the neighbors really mad

Tomorrow for sure.
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the h and x give off different sounds. my buddy has the borla axle backs with o/r x and i have an o/r h with roush axle backs and ours are pretty close in volume its just the h pipe give a deeper sound which i like and the x gives a higher pitched sound.
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the h and x give off different sounds. my buddy has the borla axle backs with o/r x and i have an o/r h with roush axle backs and ours are pretty close in volume its just the h pipe give a deeper sound which i like and the x gives a higher pitched sound.
Not to try and disagree with you, but having the borla stingers on an o/r x, there is no way even with an H and roush that yours are deeper than his.

Unless you are not talking about a 2011+ 5.0 engine.

Even the roush on the stock H were beyond higher pitched than my borlas with the o/r X. I feel weird driving the borlas because they are so deep and aggressive and that NASCAR sound is just gone. Almost feels weird taking her up to 7k rpm as it never screams like a NASCAR car does.
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Not to try and disagree with you, but having the borla stingers on an o/r x, there is no way even with an H and roush that yours are deeper than his.

Unless you are not talking about a 2011+ 5.0 engine.

Even the roush on the stock H were beyond higher pitched than my borlas with the o/r X. I feel weird driving the borlas because they are so deep and aggressive and that NASCAR sound is just gone. Almost feels weird taking her up to 7k rpm as it never screams like a NASCAR car does.
i have a 2011 and he has a 2012. and i was talking mainly about the sounds the x vs h gives. not the sound the mufflers make. if that makes sense. like if you put an o/r h with the borlas it would be deeper then if you used an o/r x
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i have a 2011 and he has a 2012. and i was talking mainly about the sounds the x vs h gives. not the sound the mufflers make. if that makes sense. like if you put an o/r h with the borlas it would be deeper then if you used an o/r x
Oh yeah I don't disagree with that, but it also depends on your muffler.

Even with an o/r H the Roush are going to be raspy. It might tone them down some. Your mufflers play a huge part too.

My point would be don't assume just because you have an H you will get a deep rasp free sound and that just because you have an X you will get a high pitched raspy sound.
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Oh yeah I don't disagree with that, but it also depends on your muffler.

Even with an o/r H the Roush are going to be raspy. It might tone them down some. Your mufflers play a huge part too.

My point would be don't assume just because you have an H you will get a deep rasp free sound and that just because you have an X you will get a high pitched raspy sound.
gotcha gotcha. when i had my 2000 gt i had an o/r x with mac cat back and i loved it but i would have much rather had a deeper tone. and with the roush and h combo it is still raspy but its a deep raspy. its hard to describe it lol. it pops and crack just like it use to its just deeper and louder and i think the combo sounds amazing but thats just me.
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What about just getting the cat.delete pipes? At about half the price of getting a full o/r H pipe. I cant imagine the stock H with the cat delete pipe would sound any different than getting a full aftermarket O/R H.
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What about just getting the cat.delete pipes? At about half the price of getting a full o/r H pipe. I cant imagine the stock H with the cat delete pipe would sound any different than getting a full aftermarket O/R H.
well, stock H has a pretty small connecting pipe compared to the aftermarket H pipes. I honestly don't know if this affects sound a lot though, but I imagine It would.
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Just like other ppl mentioned, the o/r x is high pitch nascar type, o/r h is deep, not much rasp. I put the magnaflow comp cat back on my car and it sounded like ***. Way to deep, no rasp. Sounded like a vette. Installed LT headers and o/r X and its sound completely different, love it. http://youtu.be/JHbp-w7w_5k
This isnt my car but sounds the same.
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well, stock H has a pretty small connecting pipe compared to the aftermarket H pipes. I honestly don't know if this affects sound a lot though, but I imagine It would.
+1 aftermarkets are most 2.5 I believe
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+1 aftermarkets are most 2.5 I believe
Looking at AM for our car, like the JBA they have looks like the connecting pipe is as big as the rest of it. That means it is 3". Stock can't be more than an inch and a half.
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Looking at AM for our car, like the JBA they have looks like the connecting pipe is as big as the rest of it. That means it is 3". Stock can't be more than an inch and a half.
Sorry I was talking about sn95 my bad
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Sorry I was talking about sn95 my bad
Haha no biggie. I figured from your profile picture.
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Haha no biggie. I figured from your profile picture.
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