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Old 01-12-2013, 07:21 PM   #1
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2013 Brembo LCA?

I have read that the Brembo package comes with GT500 LCAs. Can someone please confirm and demonstrate with evidence that it does? Either way, I get poor traction with the stock 3.31 and plan to go 4.10 in the spring. If at this time I have GT500... one, they don't perform well, two what upgrade would be best for the money as there are many options out there? Keep in mind I have a DD, don't plan on doing a supper charger or turbo, might track, will do a cold air intake and tune when gear is done, but want a solid 0-60 time.
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3.73 is more than enough. We have gt500 bushing in the lca. What 0-60 are u getting right now on the track app?
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3.73 is more than enough. We have gt500 bushing in the lca. What 0-60 are u getting right now on the track app?
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I agree 3.73 will do but I want more. How to make a 4.10 stick beyond tire talk and tune?
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I agree 3.73 will do but I want more. How to make a 4.10 stick beyond tire talk and tune?
Better LCA, UCA, Panhard bar, lower car, etc.
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I have read that the Brembo package comes with GT500 LCAs. Can someone please confirm and demonstrate with evidence that it does? Either way, I get poor traction with the stock 3.31 and plan to go 4.10 in the spring. If at this time I have GT500... one, they don't perform well, two what upgrade would be best for the money as there are many options out there? Keep in mind I have a DD, don't plan on doing a supper charger or turbo, might track, will do a cold air intake and tune when gear is done, but want a solid 0-60 time.
Did the brembo gts start coming with gears other than 3.73 in 2013?
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I plan to lower later for sure and understand it helps beyond the look, but also have heard the Bembo pack has other extras such as LCAs and stiffer springs... Etc. but just thought I would ask. Thanks for your help.
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Did the brembo gts start coming with gears other than 3.73 in 2013?
Only the track pack comes with 3.73 stock not as an option.
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Track pack has the GT500 LCAs, according to the Ford Racing pdf catalog. They are visually the same, i looked myself. The standard GT LCAs are black and the track pack ones are silver.

I'm not sure if Brembo package has the same upgrades.

Edit: From the Catalog

CONTROL ARM UPGRADE KIT
M-5538-A Fits 2005-2013 Mustang GT and V6
• Standard equipment on 2007-2013 Shelby GT500,
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4.10's will be a big mistake. I would rethink it.
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4.10's will be a big mistake. I would rethink it.
Not if he has a manual.
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Not if he has a manual.
Yes if he has a manual. At the track he would be shifting into 5th before the stripe.
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Yes if he has a manual. At the track he would be shifting into 5th before the stripe.
How big of a tire would he need to stay in 4th?
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How big of a tire would he need to stay in 4th?
Something around 29".
The most common tire used is a 275/60-15 which is 28" tall. Not many choices in a 29".

For the track with the manual, the best gear would actually be a 3.90 with a 28" tire. Because the 3.90 gear is made by Motive and not Ford most don't want to use it.

For an auto a 3.31 gear with a 28" tire is the ticket.
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Overall, going from a 3.31 to 4.10 is 200-550 rpm difference. If I'm going to put in a gear, I need to make it count and also set me apart from the 3.73 I missed out on with the tack pack. I will need larger tires! That's for another tread and has been talked to death. Thanks for the input.
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Something around 29".
The most common tire used is a 275/60-15 which is 28" tall. Not many choices in a 29".

For the track with the manual, the best gear would actually be a 3.90 with a 28" tire. Because the 3.90 gear is made by Motive and not Ford most don't want to use it.

For an auto a 3.31 gear with a 28" tire is the ticket.
I have 3.15, so 3.31 is the ideal gear? What about stock 315 tires which is what im putting on my rims, stay 3.15 or go 3.31
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Overall, going from a 3.31 to 4.10 is 200-550 rpm difference. If I'm going to put in a gear, I need to make it count and also set me apart from the 3.73 I missed out on with the tack pack. I will need larger tires! That's for another tread and has been talked to death. Thanks for the input.
Do what u want because it is your car but this weekend i went to the track and one of the guys ended up going back to 3.73 from 4.10, he has a track pack just like mine.
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I have 3.15, so 3.31 is the ideal gear? What about stock 315 tires which is what im putting on my rims, stay 3.15 or go 3.31
Autos ideal gear is a 3.31 with a torque convertor.

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Do what u want because it is your car but this weekend i went to the track and one of the guys ended up going back to 3.73 from 4.10, he has a track pack just like mine.
I could see if you only drove it on the streets how 4.10 would be nice but a good track course or drag strip and I'd rather have 3.73 myself.
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Got mine 301a package, with recaro and brembo and had to order the 3.73 on the side , its not included on the brembo package
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However, BBP does have all the other track pack stuff bar the oil cooler, torsen, slightly bigger rad and grippier brake pads.
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However, BBP does have all the other track pack stuff bar the oil cooler, torsen, slightly bigger rad and grippier brake pads.
No it doesn't. The Boss radiator, oil cooler, trans cooling scoop, and Torsen are Track Pack pieces. These are the extra parts you get with the $800 difference in price between the options. Check Ford's site. BTW, I have a BBP car & don't have those parts.
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Yea the track pack comes with all those parts the brembo pack just has the brakes, wheels, lca and stiffer suspension.
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Overall, going from a 3.31 to 4.10 is 200-550 rpm difference. If I'm going to put in a gear, I need to make it count and also set me apart from the 3.73 I missed out on with the tack pack.
If that's your theory, then why stop at 4.10's? Go right to the 4.88's. Remember, sometimes less is more.
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I have 3.15, so 3.31 is the ideal gear? What about stock 315 tires which is what im putting on my rims, stay 3.15 or go 3.31
For the track then yes 3.31's with a 28" tire is the ideal setup. How tall are the 315's?
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Do what u want because it is your car but this weekend i went to the track and one of the guys ended up going back to 3.73 from 4.10, he has a track pack just like mine.
Thanks for the input, but also remember that I (maybe you) don't know what other mods this other guy did. Also meaning what rwhp and tq he is running, which makes a big difference. I don't plan on doing much more as mine is a DD. l will lower, and a tune, cold air... That is about it, thus a higher gear, but one that can still be used on the highway, and one the street for a faster 0-60 would work best probably for me. Thanks for your help.

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If that's your theory, then why stop at 4.10's? Go right to the 4.88's. Remember, sometimes less is more.

For the track then yes 3.31's with a 28" tire is the ideal setup. How tall are the 315's?
I still need to have some type of traction especially as a DD, which also is used on the highway every once in a while.
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Thanks for the input, but also remember that I (maybe you) don't know what other mods this other guy did. Also meaning what rwhp and tq he is running, which makes a big difference. I don't plan on doing much more as mine is a DD. l will lower, and a tune, cold air... That is about it, thus a higher gear, but one that can still be used on the highway, and one the street for a faster 0-60 would work best probably for me. Thanks for your help.

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I still need to have some type of traction especially as a DD, which also is used on the highway every once in a while.
He was bone stock just axel back and suspension from bmr.
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There is no way that I would do 3.31 on an auto for the cost of the upgrade it wouldn't affect it enough....in my 2011 5.0 auto 3.73s were perfect at the track and on the street...don't listen to them do the frpp 3.73s....then you can do a lower torque convertor and still be street able IMHO

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Oh and if anyone wants the gt500 Lcas I have a set for cheap and the solid panhard bar and the shocks struts and springs just FYI
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There is no way that I would do 3.31 on an auto for the cost of the upgrade it wouldn't affect it enough....in my 2011 5.0 auto 3.73s were perfect at the track and on the street...don't listen to them do the frpp 3.73s....then you can do a lower torque convertor and still be street able IMHO

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Oh and if anyone wants the gt500 Lcas I have a set for cheap and the solid panhard bar and the shocks struts and springs just FYI
I have a manual with stock 3.31, and you just in a round about way supported my argument for going to a 4.10 in stead of 3.73, just for the cost of up grade, limits I have on budget, DD, and majorly only concerned with 0-60 on the street.

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He was bone stock just axel back and suspension from bmr.
Thanks for the information about the mods on the gear swap. However, I think a tune could help with curving the torque and HP as to better launch a 4.10, and use the higher RPMs. Did this happen in this case? What do you think in general about a tune and gear?
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If you want you dont have to get a tune just take it to ford and they will plug it in the computer and change the car to 3.73 or 4.10 to correct the speedometer, i did that with my tires when i got wider rims.
I am not a fan of loosing my warranty over and intake and a tune, i would focus on looks and suspension and if you can afford it do a force induction kit that u like. That is all my opinion some make look at it different.
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No it doesn't. The Boss radiator, oil cooler, trans cooling scoop, and Torsen are Track Pack pieces. These are the extra parts you get with the $800 difference in price between the options. Check Ford's site. BTW, I have a BBP car & don't have those parts.
Dude, the only thing I missed in the list is the scoop, c'mon now, read please....

I have a BBP too.
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just know that the ford dealership cannot adjust the automatics for new gears...some will say they can then you get the gears and go up there and they oh sorry we thought we could (personal experience)....well they can't trust me!!!only gears that where an option from the factory...so manuals you can get 3.31, 3.55, 3.73 autos 3.15
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Just curious but I don't see anyone mentioning a 3:55 gear. I see a lot of fans of the 3:31 gear for the auto's and 3:73 gears. Why not go in the middle with a 3:55?
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3.55 is a middle of the road gear, many NA guys that want a kick in the pants will go with 3.73 or 4.10, many drag racers or FI guys will go 3.31.

The 3.55 is just kinda the odd man out so to speak
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3.55 is a middle of the road gear, many NA guys that want a kick in the pants will go with 3.73 or 4.10, many drag racers or FI guys will go 3.31.

The 3.55 is just kinda the odd man out so to speak
Currently I have the weak a$$ 2.73 in my 11. Hopefully, after I install my odd man out (lol) 3:55 gears, it will give me a kick in the pants that I'm looking for.
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3.55 is a middle of the road gear, many NA guys that want a kick in the pants will go with 3.73 or 4.10, many drag racers or FI guys will go 3.31.

The 3.55 is just kinda the odd man out so to speak
Kinda see why... Who would go from 3.31 to 3.55?? For the same price u can go 3.73... But of course if I had 3.55 jumping to 3.73 is not that much worth it
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Currently I have the weak a$$ 2.73 in my 11. Hopefully, after I install my odd man out (lol) 3:55 gears, it will give me a kick in the pants that I'm looking for.
You have a V6 though whole different story.
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