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Old 03-19-2013, 04:49 PM   #71
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I think the fear is Ford making a 4 banger eco car with a 19 sec 1/4 time. That's the first thought when someone says 4 cylinder Mustang. But if it's Turbo and quick, then it'll be ok. It's a Mustang and it needs to have performance even in the base model, just like the currect V6's. They're not GT's but they still can haul ***.
It's not GT guys hating sixxers, everyone just wants the best vehicle. It's the same way the Shelby guys feel towards the GT's. Their cars are faster stock.
But there really couldn't be the best without the lower models supporting sales such as Gt's, Boss, etc

I don't get why so much hate towards Ford if they make a 4 banger Turbo. If one doesn't like it and only has to be v8, then nobody is forcing them to buy the 4 banger. Buy the 8.
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But there really couldn't be the best without the lower models supporting sales such as Gt's, Boss, etc

I don't get why so much hate towards Ford if they make a 4 banger Turbo. If one doesn't like it and only has to be v8, then nobody is forcing them to buy the 4 banger. Buy the 8.
I'm not hating Ford for making a 4T. I'm just saying what people's initial perception is. I understand the need for base models, to get to the GT and Shelby's. Personally I prefer a SC over turbos. I don't like the lag in a 4t, I've had one before.
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But there really couldn't be the best without the lower models supporting sales such as Gt's, Boss, etc

I don't get why so much hate towards Ford if they make a 4 banger Turbo. If one doesn't like it and only has to be v8, then nobody is forcing them to buy the 4 banger. Buy the 8.
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Bro, today's 4 banger ain't what the 4 banger was back in 1970. News flash, it's 2013. The world evolves and so does the technology. A four banger echo boost turbo engine has crazy potential for many who don't want the V8. Granted , back in the day, 60,70,80's the V8's were the only engines really putting down power. It's not like that anymore. The number of cylinders doesn't determine whether a car is fast or not. It can be a 3 banger, if the car is rolling 1/4 mile times factory stock in the lower 13's , then that's quick. No matter what size the engine is. The world changes and so do cars. I'm sure Ford will gladly except the loss of thousands of fanatic mustang enthusiasts if it means gaining 10 fold in new mustang consumers. It's like there are casualty's of war. A certain loss is acceptable for the greater good and goal. If certain people don't like the 4 banger, then don't buy it.
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Bro, today's 4 banger ain't what the 4 banger was back in 1970. News flash, it's 2013. The world evolves and so does the technology. A four banger echo boost turbo engine has crazy potential for many who don't want the V8. Granted , back in the day, 60,70,80's the V8's were the only engines really putting down power. It's not like that anymore. The number of cylinders doesn't determine whether a car is fast or not. It can be a 3 banger, if the car is rolling 1/4 mile times factory stock in the lower 13's , then that's quick. No matter what size the engine is. The world changes and so do cars. I'm sure Ford will gladly except the loss of thousands of fanatic mustang enthusiasts if it means gaining 10 fold in new mustang consumers. It's like there are casualty's of war. A certain loss is acceptable for the greater good and goal. If certain people don't like the 4 banger, then don't buy it.
Question would you buy the 2.3l or the 5.0 if you bought one?
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Bro, today's 4 banger ain't what the 4 banger was back in 1970. News flash, it's 2013. The world evolves and so does the technology. A four banger echo boost turbo engine has crazy potential for many who don't want the V8. Granted , back in the day, 60,70,80's the V8's were the only engines really putting down power. It's not like that anymore. The number of cylinders doesn't determine whether a car is fast or not. It can be a 3 banger, if the car is rolling 1/4 mile times factory stock in the lower 13's , then that's quick. No matter what size the engine is. The world changes and so do cars. I'm sure Ford will gladly except the loss of thousands of fanatic mustang enthusiasts if it means gaining 10 fold in new mustang consumers. It's like there are casualty's of war. A certain loss is acceptable for the greater good and goal. If certain people don't like the 4 banger, then don't buy it.
So to compare NA to NA
2.3 or 5.0?
And Compare Turbo to Turbo
2.3 turbo or 5.0 turbo?
Is there a reason you would want a 2.3T instead of a 5.0 other than fuel economy?
Of course everything evoles. That's why the current 5.0 is nothing like the 1968 302 and the new one blows it away. The current 5.0 platform puts down 1/4 mile numbers that in the 80's required a Ferrari or Porche.
The thousands of mustang fanatics you're ready to throw under the bus are the reason there still is a mustang and a GT model putting out over 400hp. Not sure how you get 10 fold wanting a 4T over a 5.0. I think you're comment about if you don't want a 4 banger, don't buy it, is what you accuse the V8 people of saying.
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I agree, as long as they keep a V8 in the mustang as an option then they can do what they want as far as concerned!
I hear ya on that one.
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I hear ya on that one.
+1 an argument over this is a tad retarded..if ford wants to bring the 4 banger than so be it, it's just ANOTHER option for people to look at when purchasing a new mustang, very smart on fords part, especially with gas prices the way they are, I could very well see the 4s out selling the 6s..also very excited to see how some people build up the 4s, it's gonna make for a very interesting year for mustang enthusiasts
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The more you think about it we are just repeating history... Released mustang in 64 ... released retro remade one in 05, the released 2.3l t in 84 now releasing 2.3l t in 15 just repeating what's been done in the past
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The more you think about it we are just repeating history... Released mustang in 64 ... released retro remade one in 05, the released 2.3l t in 84 now releasing 2.3l t in 15 just repeating what's been done in the past
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Question would you buy the 2.3l or the 5.0 if you bought one?
I don't know. It depended a lot on the power and performance the 4 banger turbo was making. If the factory 4 banger was slower than my 11, 6 banger, the no I wouldn't buy the 4 banger. It really depends .

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So to compare NA to NA
2.3 or 5.0?
And Compare Turbo to Turbo
2.3 turbo or 5.0 turbo?
Is there a reason you would want a 2.3T instead of a 5.0 other than fuel economy?
Of course everything evoles. That's why the current 5.0 is nothing like the 1968 302 and the new one blows it away. The current 5.0 platform puts down 1/4 mile numbers that in the 80's required a Ferrari or Porche.
The thousands of mustang fanatics you're ready to throw under the bus are the reason there still is a mustang and a GT model putting out over 400hp. Not sure how you get 10 fold wanting a 4T over a 5.0. I think you're comment about if you don't want a 4 banger, don't buy it, is what you accuse the V8 people of saying.
The only reason I would want the 2.3 t over the 5.0 would be because I don't want to spend the extra 7 to 8 grand more. Mostly depends on how fast the 4 banger turbo would be.
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Time to end this thread... The only reason Ford would put a 4 banger in the Mustang is the government rule... That car manufactures must achieve 55mpg by the year 2025 that is only a short 12 years away. So you see, like it or not a 4 banger will be back in the Stang... It's just a matter of time!!!
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Time to end this thread... The only reason Ford would put a 4 banger in the Mustang is the government rule... That car manufactures must achieve 55mpg by the year 2025 that is only a short 12 years away.
Then people can just buy the V8 baby instead of the 4 banger who are less concerned with better mpg's
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Wow too many ppl getting butt hurt if you don't like the 4cly turbo then quess what..............DON'T FREAKING BUY it
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Wow too many ppl getting butt hurt if you don't like the 4cly turbo then quess what..............DON'T FREAKING BUY it
Apparently this mustang engine stuff is pretty serious business and it no laughing matter
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Wow too many ppl getting butt hurt if you don't like the 4cly turbo then quess what..............DON'T FREAKING BUY it
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Wow too many ppl getting butt hurt if you don't like the 4cly turbo then quess what..............DON'T FREAKING BUY it
Hey.

Clearly, a v6 making 400+ hp is stupid, because there are only 6 cylinders.

And a 4 making 300 hp is also stupid.

It is absolutely moronic to buy a car one could have fun with, enjoy, and be fast - while not wasting fuel at a ludicrous rate.

IF you can not afford to get 10 mpg in your car, the ONLY option better be a 100hp front wheel drove crap box.

Clearly, any intellectual will DECLARE the only way to have a REAL car is to have 8 plus cylinders, and get 10 mpg.

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Hey.

Clearly, a v6 making 400+ hp is stupid, because there are only 6 cylinders.

And a 4 making 300 hp is also stupid.

It is absolutely moronic to buy a car one could have fun with, enjoy, and be fast - while not wasting fuel at a ludicrous rate.

IF you can not afford to get 10 mpg in your car, the ONLY option better be a 100hp front wheel drove crap box.

Clearly, any intellectual will DECLARE the only way to have a REAL car is to have 8 plus cylinders, and get 10 mpg.

/End insanity.
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I love your sarcasm
I respect the passion for performance. But efficiency should be a goal...with it comes more power. Our engines are making more power while being more fuel efficient at a rapid rate. Why would anyone NOT want more power and NOT want better fuel economy? Fuel economy is directly correlated with efficiency.

It just escapes me. Like a new ice cream that is healthy, has zero calories, and tastes good. "So...it doesn't make me fat, and it has no negative? I do not accept it!"
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

Ford has a 400HP 4 banger Turbo that gets 50 mpg and costs $7,000 less than a GT.

Why are they hiding this. We need it now, I can't believe they haven't been selling it before now. They're idiots to keeping offering a V8.
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

Ford has a 400HP 4 banger Turbo that gets 50 mpg and costs $7,000 less than a GT.

Why are they hiding this. We need it now, I can't believe they haven't been selling it before now. They're idiots to keeping offering a V8.
I'm pretty sure the member was using that as an example. Its just really funny to see all the fanatics on here talk about how there not going to buy the new V8 mustang if Ford makes a 4 banger turbo model as well. All poppy cock and rubbish. You guys are gonna buy that mustang new V8 regardless and are full of crap to say otherwise.
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I'm pretty sure the member was using that as an example. Its just really funny to see all the fanatics on here talk about how there not going to buy the new V8 mustang if Ford makes a 4 banger turbo model as well. All poppy cock and rubbish. You guys are gonna buy that mustang new V8 regardless and are full of crap to say otherwise.
Idk if anyone said they won't buy the new v8? But like my previous comment said.. It's just history repeating its self..
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I'm pretty sure that as long as the keep a v8 it don't really matter what cylinder the other model is
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I'm pretty sure that as long as the keep a v8 it don't really matter what cylinder the other model is
It's when the try to take the v8 away is when it gonna be bad
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I hope Ford continues to offer a selection like ours now. A more consumer friendly model (cheap, cheerful, gets the job done) - our v6 or future ecoboost, a step up with a significant powerhouse - our NA v8 or ttv6, and then a complete monster- the GT500.


I think its a great range, and I hope they continue (what I think) is something for everyone.
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It's when the try to take the v8 away is when it gonna be bad
When thy take away the v8 is when it's not a mustang anymore

While its true That the mustang started a a sixxer, it quickly evolved, and the 8 has been the norm.
If they make a 400 hp 4 cyl turbo, then the 8 will definitely have like 600.
There's no way they'd get rid of the 8
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When thy take away the v8 is when it's not a mustang anymore

While its true That the mustang started a a sixxer, it quickly evolved, and the 8 has been the norm.
If they make a 400 hp 4 cyl turbo, then the 8 will definitely have like 600.
There's no way they'd get rid of the 8
What about a twin turbo v6 like GM? 430 hp, almost as much torque.
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To get that much hp with twin turbos on then all the motor would need would be 200 and so horsepower cause I'm pretty sure them turbos are adding about 100 hp each
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When thy take away the v8 is when it's not a mustang anymore

While its true That the mustang started a a sixxer, it quickly evolved, and the 8 has been the norm.
If they make a 400 hp 4 cyl turbo, then the 8 will definitely have like 600.
There's no way they'd get rid of the 8
Like gm just came out with a TT v6 with 400+hp and we consider down sizing to a 4, and I'm sure there are 4 cylinders that can produce 400hp and I'm not downing 4 cylinders, my mom has a 2.0t and its quick but i don't think they'll offer a stock mustang 2.3l t with 400hp. I think the v6 is perfectly fine in it now and just turbo it? it has good mileag and ik they won't get rid of the v8 that's why people look to get a mustang, they wanna get to te GT option one day

Why ruin what's already good?
Leave the base v6 with turbo option
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And yes raise the horses, but that's a wide range for consumers already, mustangs needs to have some rarity to them.. We don't want to be the number one bought car cause then its not as special to have one
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Wow everyone take a deep breath! I love the excitement over a few engines only true car enthusiasts can get this excited.

I was at the Atlanta Auto Show, this past weekend, and Ford was glowing about their Mustang engines. In fact I didn't see one Ecoboost engine on display they had both the Cyclone, and the Coyote with several facts printed out and pasted on them. It was a big hit with people, some of the Mopar and Chevy guys were raising their eye brows. Alan Mullally, said a while back that It's a time of great change, and who knows what the future will bring. He didn't know if Turbos are the answer, electric, or Hybrids.

A lot of it will boil down to economics! Considering a large part of economics is consumer tastes and preferences, we should see a Mustang that suits everyone across the board.
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Wow everyone take a deep breath! I love the excitement over a few engines only true car enthusiasts can get this excited.

I was at the Atlanta Auto Show, this past weekend, and Ford was glowing about their Mustang engines. In fact I didn't see one Ecoboost engine on display they had both the Cyclone, and the Coyote with several facts printed out and pasted on them. It was a big hit with people, some of the Mopar and Chevy guys were raising their eye brows. Alan Mullally, said a while back that It's a time of great change, and who knows what the future will bring. He didn't know if Turbos are the answer, electric, or Hybrids.

A lot of it will boil down to economics! Considering a large part of economics is consumer tastes and preferences, we should see a Mustang that suits everyone across the board.
There better be one to suit my tastes in the future :p
Otherwise I will probably go in my corner and cry...
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Wow everyone take a deep breath! I love the excitement over a few engines only true car enthusiasts can get this excited.

I was at the Atlanta Auto Show, this past weekend, and Ford was glowing about their Mustang engines. In fact I didn't see one Ecoboost engine on display they had both the Cyclone, and the Coyote with several facts printed out and pasted on them. It was a big hit with people, some of the Mopar and Chevy guys were raising their eye brows. Alan Mullally, said a while back that It's a time of great change, and who knows what the future will bring. He didn't know if Turbos are the answer, electric, or Hybrids.

A lot of it will boil down to economics! Considering a large part of economics is consumer tastes and preferences, we should see a Mustang that suits everyone across the board.
I was there too!!! Haha and let me just say there was literally a line to sit in the Shelby!
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I was there too!!! Haha and let me just say there was literally a line to sit in the Shelby!
what day were you there? I didn't have to wait to sit in the Shelby haha

So you know exactly what I'm talking about. People were laughing at the fact they were Naturally Aspirated, but you saw that display
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