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02-20-2013, 09:18 AM
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| CAI? So many !?
I have a 2012 5.0 looking to get a CAI possibly with a tuner as well, there's just so many out there I want to know what y'all would suggest would be worth taking a look at or what is legitimate
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02-20-2013, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by turnuptheluv I have a 2012 5.0 looking to get a CAI possibly with a tuner as well, there's just so many out there I want to know what y'all would suggest would be worth taking a look at or what is legitimate | Honestly it's just which look you like the most. There's no considerable performance gain just improved looks under the hood. Now a tuner is a different story, I recommend the diablo intune especially sense diablo confirmed that through their tests it doesn't void warranty
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02-20-2013, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by turnuptheluv I have a 2012 5.0 looking to get a CAI possibly with a tuner as well, there's just so many out there I want to know what y'all would suggest would be worth taking a look at or what is legitimate | Love my Steeda CAI this fit is top notch
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02-20-2013, 09:55 AM
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This is my C&L CAI.... As stated above an intake will give you better looks and sound but little to no performance increase.... Only is affective with a tune, and again the tune is whats really givig you the hp increase |
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02-20-2013, 09:58 AM
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02-20-2013, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Redstang1 Honestly it's just which look you like the most. There's no considerable performance gain just improved looks under the hood. Now a tuner is a different story, I recommend the diablo intune especially sense diablo confirmed that through their tests it doesn't void warranty | i didnt know that.
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02-20-2013, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BUSHGUTS
i didnt know that. | I herd about it, so I called them and who ever I spoke to said they test on all ford are and the dealers couldn't detect a tune if you return to stock.
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02-20-2013, 10:28 AM
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I went with the wms ram air intake and I love it...I got the 90mm one so I still need to by the ram air box but that's ganna happen next pay check |
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02-20-2013, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Redstang1
I herd about it, so I called them and who ever I spoke to said they test on all ford are and the dealers couldn't detect a tune if you return to stock. | Anyone have any info on this?
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02-20-2013, 11:37 AM
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Do you have to have the CAI to get the tune or can you get HP & Performance gains without a CAI and just a tune?
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02-20-2013, 11:46 AM
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My BBK Cold Air Intake. I love it.
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02-20-2013, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Defiant 5.0 My BBK Cold Air Intake. I love it. | Yep have the same one. I love the chrome and the performance.
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02-20-2013, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Redstang1 Yep have the same one. I love the chrome and the performance. | Yeah, I was seriously surprised by the performance increase. It's not ridiculous but it does feel like the car get's a kick in the pants at around 6500 rpm. The only reason I wound up with the BBK is because I got such a good deal on it lol.
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02-20-2013, 12:22 PM
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There's lots of good options for CAI's as you can already tell. We've had a lot of good luck with Airaid, JLT, and Steeda. I think you'll be very pleased with any of those. Plus, we have some intakes available in a Bama tuner package deal!
Let me know if you have any questions!
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02-20-2013, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Defiant 5.0
Yeah, I was seriously surprised by the performance increase. It's not ridiculous but it does feel like the car get's a kick in the pants at around 6500 rpm. The only reason I wound up with the BBK is because I got such a good deal on it lol. | Same here, it was a gift so technically it was free.
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02-20-2013, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritzep Do you have to have the CAI to get the tune or can you get HP & Performance gains without a CAI and just a tune? | The factory CAI, is plenty, you can save some money by just getting the tune, your biggest gains will come from the tune, the aftermarket CAI, are more of a cosmetic, and many who 'believe' they feel something are more than likely feeling the sound more than the actual gains. Realistically, any gain you might get from the aftermarket CAI, cannot be "felt", or even seen. I went from 13.38 @ 107 in factory form, to 12.43 with 93 octane tune, and all else still factory. I personally like the clean appearance of the factory box, over a plastic tube, with a cheap looking insulator, and open air cleaner. The aftermarket has done an excellent job of promoting their pieces, and hyping up their products, with many people believing what they have to say. If you want the cosmetic look, as many do, shop for what you feel looks best for you, but dont let the hype about power gains influence your decision.
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02-20-2013, 01:20 PM
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CAI's that require tunes are the only ones to give you more power. Usually about 10WHP more than just the tune alone from what I've seen
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02-20-2013, 03:09 PM
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I did air raid intake and bama tune definatlet a noticeable difference. Plus the sound of the intake is pretty sweet. And pretty much all the cai's are good for about 10hp with a tune
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02-20-2013, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Redstang1
I herd about it, so I called them and who ever I spoke to said they test on all ford are and the dealers couldn't detect a tune if you return to stock. | I bet the guy said trust me too.
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02-20-2013, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Redstang1 I herd about it, so I called them and who ever I spoke to said they test on all ford are and the dealers couldn't detect a tune if you return to stock. | It will still be a problem if you have a serious engine failure and can't reload the stock tune for some reason. Or for those of us that have mods requiring a tune, we can't drive on the stock tune to the dealer. (Boss IM or CAI that requires a tune)
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02-20-2013, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetag93
It will still be a problem if you have a serious engine failure and can't reload the stock tune for some reason. Or for those of us that have mods requiring a tune, we can't drive on the stock tune to the dealer. (Boss IM or CAI that requires a tune)
My JLT CAI. | People dont think about that part lol, if you have offroad xpipe, an intake mani, ect. They are not stupid, unless ofcourse you replace everything from stock, but what a pita! ---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:33 PM ---------- I feel like trying it and having them write it on paper, to see if ford can detect it, to later sue them and buy everyone here a new 2015 mustang/2013 gt500s!
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02-20-2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OzzyLiriano
People dont think about that part lol, if you have offroad xpipe, an intake mani, ect. They are not stupid, unless ofcourse you replace everything from stock, but what a pita!
---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:33 PM ----------
I feel like trying it and having them write it on paper, to see if ford can detect it, to later sue them and buy everyone here a new 2015 mustang/2013 gt500s! | If I had serious problems with my car, I wouldn't think twice about putting her back to stock. Exactly why I still have all the stock parts.
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02-21-2013, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mok Anyone have any info on this? | It is my understanding that the 2011+ PCM has a flash counter and they can tell how many times the PCM has been flashed. Dealer-performed flashes are part of your service record, if the counts do not match, you're busted.
I would be shocked if anyone found some backdoor to bypass the counter.
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02-21-2013, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by turnuptheluv I have a 2012 5.0 looking to get a CAI possibly with a tuner as well, there's just so many out there I want to know what y'all would suggest would be worth taking a look at or what is legitimate | Don't waste your money on a CAI because these cars already come with CAI from the factory. Spend your money on what you will hear and feel. For example I went with a Roush axle back, MGW short shifter. To me those were the most important mods. If anything I would put a K@N filter to put in the stock box just to save money over time. I may also get a lighter drive shaft in the future and tune.
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02-21-2013, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Srohda
Don't waste your money on a CAI because these cars already come with CAI from the factory. Spend your money on what you will hear and feel. For example I went with a Roush axle back, MGW short shifter. To me those were the most important mods. If anything I would put a K@N filter to put in the stock box just to save money over time. I may also get a lighter drive shaft in the future and tune. | I wouldn't even do the K&N, independent test show no power gain or even loss of power, and drag slips have shown slower times
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02-21-2013, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
I wouldn't even do the K&N, independent test show no power gain or even loss of power, and drag slips have shown slower times | Really? I wonder if the same goes for the dry filters?
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02-21-2013, 09:39 AM
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#27 | | The Blue Dragon
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Originally Posted by Srohda
Really? I wonder if the same goes for the dry filters? | Best off with paper filter in stock air box
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02-21-2013, 09:44 AM
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I installed the K&N, it fit perfectly, and only took about 4 hours to do. I prefer the K&N as it has a lid on the filter box, which eliminates any problem with water from the hood vents. Also changed to synthetic oil at the same time. When I installed the airbox, I removed the spacer to the front of the car so the air comes from inside the engine compartment. Having warmer air means that the air isn't as dense, so the same air/fuel ratio nets higher mpg. The car went from 18 mpg to 27.5 overnight.
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02-21-2013, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mtnman325 I installed the K&N, it fit perfectly, and only took about 4 hours to do. I prefer the K&N as it has a lid on the filter box, which eliminates any problem with water from the hood vents. Also changed to synthetic oil at the same time. When I installed the airbox, I removed the spacer to the front of the car so the air comes from inside the engine compartment. Having warmer air means that the air isn't as dense, so the same air/fuel ratio nets higher mpg. The car went from 18 mpg to 27.5 overnight. | Placebo effect, there's no way you gained ~55% fuel economy from a K&N filter. I presume you're referring to a CAI because I sure hope a drop in didn't take you 4 hrs to install (which is what I was referring to). The fuel economy is known to be rather inaccurate on these cars. That or maybe you changed your driving style.
Ford installed a CAI from the factory, most people show IAT's very close to ambient air temps with stock air box, so the air going into you motor will be very close to the same temp
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02-21-2013, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnman325 I installed the K&N, it fit perfectly, and only took about 4 hours to do. I prefer the K&N as it has a lid on the filter box, which eliminates any problem with water from the hood vents. Also changed to synthetic oil at the same time. When I installed the airbox, I removed the spacer to the front of the car so the air comes from inside the engine compartment. Having warmer air means that the air isn't as dense, so the same air/fuel ratio nets higher mpg. The car went from 18 mpg to 27.5 overnight. | That's the funniest thing I heard all week! Thank you, I needed a laugh.
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02-21-2013, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC_SmOziLLa
That's the funniest thing I heard all week! Thank you, I needed a laugh. | Haha for real...there is no way your avg MPG doubled with just a drop in filter...
Wait just read it again....I think he is being sarcastic haha....4 hours?
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02-21-2013, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnman325 When I installed the airbox, I removed the spacer to the front of the car so the air comes from inside the engine compartment. Having warmer air means that the air isn't as dense, so the same air/fuel ratio nets higher mpg. The car went from 18 mpg to 27.5 overnight. |
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02-23-2013, 09:23 AM
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I plan on doing FI later on, does anyone here know if a CAI will add any additional tq/hp?
I'm planning on doing a vortec sc with boss IM and maybe a steeda CAI . Would like to hear some opinions/advice. Thanks everyone
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02-23-2013, 09:38 AM
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Cai kits won't work with any fi kit. The fi kits have a specific air inlet.
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02-23-2013, 09:46 AM
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If you plan on going F/I in the future just skip the CAI. Honestly, these CAI kits are good for an extra 3-5hp and increase engine noise and slight exhaust increase as well. They're more aesthetically pleasing but that's about it. If you want to get a CAI for the vortech the JLT makes a good blow thru or draw thru kit.
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