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Old 02-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #36
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No it comes with an alum flange that saves 1 add pound compared to a steel flange.. The shaft itself is 19 lbs.
Yeah looking at it I see it says that. Terrible way to advertise it as I bet a lot of people will read it wrong like I did.
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The same concept you guys are talking about with rotational mass is what they use to figure brake horsepower. Basically, the shaft is attached to a meter, in the shaft is also attached to a drum style "brake" by adding weight to the brake you are increasing the shafts perceived rotational mass and the meter reads the output "Brake Horsepower" I'll have to find the equations, but it will tell you the exact way to figure out the rotational mass and effects between length, diameter, and material.
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on the other forum I am that is strictly on aerodynamics and the physics of making vehicles more efficient, the accepted and always declared value of rotating mass is 4 pounds for 1 rotating. I do not know for fact, realistically it is a variable, depending on how far away the mass is from the center rotation point. The value of 1 lb one foot away from the center point is less than the value of 1 lb three feet away. So on a drive shaft, probably closer to 4. A wheel/tire? Maybe closer to 10.

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The same concept you guys are talking about with rotational mass is what they use to figure brake horsepower. Basically, the shaft is attached to a meter, in the shaft is also attached to a drum style "brake" by adding weight to the brake you are increasing the shafts perceived rotational mass and the meter reads the output "Brake Horsepower" I'll have to find the equations, but it will tell you the exact way to figure out the rotational mass and effects between length, diameter, and material.
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my bad. I was using aircraft maintenance talk. R2 means remove and replace.
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my bad. I was using aircraft maintenance talk. R2 means remove and replace.
I am a helicopter mechanic, never heard that before.
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I worked on f-18s in the marine corps and never heard of the term R2 either in that sense.
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I believe it is a modified reference to R and R for remove and replace just said as 'R2" since there are 2 'R's. Not common I'm sure.
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I just keep it simple "hey remove that and when your done go ahead and replace it"
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Any aftermarket driveshaft is gonna be way better than the factory stock one. I just had mine installed two days ago and love it. Mine is from American Muscle and real happy.
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Any aftermarket driveshaft is gonna be way better than the factory stock one. I just had mine installed two days ago and love it. Mine is from American Muscle and real happy.
Except for an out of balance DS.
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I am a helicopter mechanic, never heard that before.
Lol, never heard it in aircraft maintenance either.
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I believe it is a modified reference to R and R for remove and replace just said as 'R2" since there are 2 'R's. Not common I'm sure.
We use that aboard ship all the time. I actually write it in engineering casualty reports
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It must be a unit coined term because it isn't a NAVAIR term.
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It must be a unit coined term because it isn't a NAVAIR term.
Lol, I'm a ships engineer, nothing to do with aircraft, but I do work for the navy, and we still use it even as civilians, maybe we adopted it from them? Not sure.... I just use it when I submit CASREPs
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Except for an out of balance DS.
Well that's true but I'm glad I got mine from American Muscle and real happy with it. I'll take my chances with the one piece aluminum driveshaft that is made by the axle exchange over the factory stock two piece. I haven't heard of any one piece aluminum driveshafts sold by American Muscle failing or breaking.
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sorry, R2 means remove and replace.

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common term for Air Force aircraft maintenance.
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sorry, R2 means remove and replace.

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common term for Air Force aircraft maintenance.
I worked on F4 phantoms, never heard of it.
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I think it's funny how easy it is for these threads to get off topic.
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I think it's funny how easy it is for these threads to get off topic.
After a 7 kill streak I call in harriers and I never heard it either.
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After a 7 kill streak I call in harriers and I never heard it either.
lol...I was waiting for someone to make that reference...I just didn't wanna be that guy.
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After a 7 kill streak I call in harriers and I never heard it either.
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Has anyone experienced any downsides to upgrading to an aluminum drive shaft. Are there any pit falls to watch out for?
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Has anyone experienced any downsides to upgrading to an aluminum drive shaft. Are there any pit falls to watch out for?
Just make sure it's balanced, I've had a couple vibration issues that I just have not had time to get around to and fix yet, but I'm pretty sure this Saturday it will be fixed.
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Just make sure it's balanced, I've had a couple vibration issues that I just have not had time to get around to and fix yet, but I'm pretty sure this Saturday it will be fixed.
Gonna be a busy Saturday.
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Shouldn't it come balanced, or does it have to do with the way its installed? Sounds like might be a good idea for me to have a local shop install it. Anyone from Las Vegas, NV have any recommendations?
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Shouldn't it come balanced, or does it have to do with the way its installed? Sounds like might be a good idea for me to have a local shop install it. Anyone from Las Vegas, NV have any recommendations?
It should come balanced, but sometimes you have to rotate the way it's mounted to find the sweet spot.
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My shop guy tells me that the less mass increases hp but loses torque.
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My shop guy tells me that the less mass increases hp but loses torque.
He's wrong, it frees up HP, it doesn't create any. You should feel more torque, Idk if it creates any or not but you certainly don't lose any .
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My shop guy tells me that the less mass increases hp but loses torque.
How would having less rotational mass reduce torque?
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How would having less rotational mass reduce torque?
Because weight=torque obviously. Didn't you know that?!
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Because weight=torque obviously. Didn't you know that?!
I know right!?!? It's like a really fat man running a 200 m sprint. He takes off faster than the skinny guys because he's heavier. Basic stuff here.
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Because weight=torque obviously. Didn't you know that?!
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I know right!?!? It's like a really fat man running a 200 m sprint. He takes off faster than the skinny guys because he's heavier. Basic stuff here.
You guys are cracking me up.
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You guys are cracking me up.
I don't know about a fat man but I'm certainly glad I purchased my one piece aluminum driveshaft from American Muscle. Now traveling speeds of 140 plus are not a issue for me. Plus , my off line acceleration is now better because loosing that stock heavy rotational mass driveshaft makes a difference. My opinion is that the aluminium driveshaft is a great modification.
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I was dead set on getting one until he told me that. ... Sheeeiittt
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I was dead set on getting one until he told me that. ... Sheeeiittt
Your Shop guy=idiot
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