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Old 03-12-2013, 08:59 PM   #1
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9.5" on all four corners? My car? Doable?

So I am getting a huge giant couple of checks. I am not saying how much as everyone is gonna say SC or Turbo. I already decided not yet. Still have to buy the LCA and relo brackets, shifter and maybe one more small thing.

Anyway I found the rims I really want, from AM and they are 9.5X19. AM says you can run them as fronts. I do not want a staggered look for a few reasons. I have to think down the road as moving soon money might be tight enough that I don't want to replace tires that often. I want to run 275-40-19 all the way around.

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I have a 1.7" drop in the front and a 2.4" drop in the back.

Can I even make this happen?

I'll get some better pictures of the car tomorrow if ya'll need them to judge. I just don't want to drop 1800 on these plus tires and all that stuff to find out they don't fit or rub real bad.

If people think they will rub I will look at something else. I'll take suggestions! I want an all black rim, wide as possible, same size all four corners and I don't want Forgestar prices or I would buy them haha. I have considered going 18" with them and just buying them but I really want 19" and like the shelby replicas.

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I ran RTR's in that exact set up with H&R super sports with no rub. I changed to eibach springs when I upgraded entire suspension.
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I ran RTR's in that exact set up with H&R super sports with no rub. I changed to eibach springs when I upgraded entire suspension.
that is 9.5 inches all the way around? If so that looks mean man! Like the look. Do you know what the offset of the RTRs is? I know the Shelby replicas are 35mm.
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Yea all 4 corners. Offset is +33.
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The wheels you're looking at are almost the same as the RTR. RTR has 6.5" back spacing and 33mm offset, the Shelby has 6.6" back spacing and 35mm offset. And your link for the wheels says it can be used front or rear.
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The wheels you're looking at are almost the same as the RTR. RTR has 6.5" back spacing and 33mm offset, the Shelby has 6.6" back spacing and 35mm offset. And your link for the wheels says it can be used front or rear.
I know it says it can be used that way, but that is probably listed for stock car height. I am quite a bit lower.

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Yea all 4 corners. Offset is +33.
Thanks for the response! I will probably get the Shelbys then. Looks like they will fit no issues.
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Gotcha. Think I read it wrong. I was looking at them too but the staggered set up. Says they were out of stock. Didn't even see the 9.5". I like that they are much cheaper than the RTR's. I'd say get em.
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Totally doable! I run factory Brembo 19x9" wheels with 275/35-19 front & 285/35-19 rears (a 275/40-19 will be a little taller than stock). I'm lowered on Ford Racing springs with their adjustable shocks/struts. The downside with sticking to 19" tires is a lack of options for sticky tires like drag radials...you would more options in an 18" wheel, but I can understand. If you can afford it, buy another set of two identical wheels for some drag radials (or whatever type supports your hobby) and cycle between them & your street tires so you get the best of both worlds.
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I ran RTR's in that exact set up with H&R super sports with no rub. I changed to eibach springs when I upgraded entire suspension.
Are those the eibach pros?? That is the best stance I've seen, the tires fit perfectly. What size tires are they? They seem to be what completes the look.
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Totally doable! I run factory Brembo 19x9" wheels with 275/35-19 front & 285/35-19 rears (a 275/40-19 will be a little taller than stock). I'm lowered on Ford Racing springs with their adjustable shocks/struts. The downside with sticking to 19" tires is a lack of options for sticky tires like drag radials...you would more options in an 18" wheel, but I can understand. If you can afford it, buy another set of two identical wheels for some drag radials (or whatever type supports your hobby) and cycle between them & your street tires so you get the best of both worlds.
While you're probably correct, the fact that you're running different wheels with a different backspacing and different offset with a different size tire on different springs should not be the reasoning you came to this conclusion. Not being mean, just being honest. :beer:
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While you're probably correct, the fact that you're running different wheels with a different backspacing and different offset with a different size tire on different springs should not be the reasoning you came to this conclusion. Not being mean, just being honest. :beer:
I ran them with Eibachs pro's which were much lower, up until a month ago. 1/2" of wheel width isn't going to make any difference unless the offsets are totally incorrect, which is unlikely given the vendor. Just saying...
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I ran them with Eibachs pro's which were much lower, up until a month ago. 1/2" of wheel width isn't going to make any difference unless the offsets are totally incorrect, which is unlikely given the vendor. Just saying...
You're right, assuming the ONLY difference is the wheel width, but everything about your car is different. Again I'm not being mean, but just because your car is kinda like some else's, doesn't mean that something similar will work.

That's all I'm saying.
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I run the Avant Garde M310's 19x9.5 on all four corners on the Boss and have zero issues. I'm actually getting ready to sell them if you're interested. They have Pirelli's, 255/40 and 285/35. The entire set has 1200 miles on them.
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I run the Avant Garde M310's 19x9.5 on all four corners on the Boss and have zero issues. I'm actually getting ready to sell them if you're interested. They have Pirelli's, 255/40 and 285/35. The entire set has 1200 miles on them.
How much? And they are in black?
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They're charcoal, similar to the RTR's but a little darker. I'll be selling them for 1400 plus buyer pays half of shipping.
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They're charcoal, similar to the RTR's but a little darker. I'll be selling them for 1400 plus buyer pays half of shipping.
I'll think on it, my only real concern is since you did two different tire sizes I won't be able to rotate them.
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I like the way it looks with the different tire sizes.
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I like the way it looks with the different tire sizes.
don't get me wrong I do too, but what concerns me is the roads before me may be rocky. Buying a house on my own, having this car and insurance and payments and everything else. I would like to enjoy her but keep my expenses as low as possible. So I really would like to replace tires as little as possible right now. I am trying to think to the near future and not screw myself over.

plus if things change or things get easier down the road I will have rims I can always do that with.
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Want just the wheels and TPMS?? I may hook you up on those, depending on where you live.
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Want just the wheels and TPMS?? I may hook you up on those, depending on where you live.
yeah maybe depending on the price! I am in cincinnati currently.
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Are those the eibach pros?? That is the best stance I've seen, the tires fit perfectly. What size tires are they? They seem to be what completes the look.
No. Those pics are with my old H&R super sports. Same as op I think. I now have the eibachs.
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No. Those pics are with my old H&R super sports. Same as op I think. I now have the eibachs.
Yessir what I have. The fact you had them with those size rims and tires makes me feel comfortable doing that size.
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Yessir what I have. The fact you had them with those size rims and tires makes me feel comfortable doing that size.
Yea u'll be fine. I never heard a rub or anything. I was running stock struts and the ride was a bit harsh so when I added eibach struts & shocks I went with their springs too.
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Yea u'll be fine. I never heard a rub or anything. I was running stock struts and the ride was a bit harsh so when I added eibach struts & shocks I went with their springs too.
Yeah I can see with stock shocks and struts how these springs would ride terrible. I have Konis to keep them in line. Super smooth except hitting some bumps really throw ya at high speeds but I only hit 1-2 with my normal driving.
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ok so now I have another question. Can I run a 285-35-19 tire in the front? I have seen videos of guys with 9" wide wheels running them in the front with apparently no rubbing. Seems like they will be smaller in sidewall height and total diameter of course than the 275-40-19 but about an inch wider. Although the thing is they are at stock height. which is what concerns me.

it isn't much more for tires that size and opens up a few other tire brands for the car.

Thoughts please?
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ok so now I have another question. Can I run a 285-35-19 tire in the front? I have seen videos of guys with 9" wide wheels running them in the front with apparently no rubbing. Seems like they will be smaller in sidewall height and total diameter of course than the 275-40-19 but about an inch wider. Although the thing is they are at stock height. which is what concerns me.

it isn't much more for tires that size and opens up a few other tire brands for the car.

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Should be fine for clearance. But my 275s in front do grab and try to wander a bit so be prepared for that. Mine r BFG comp2s.
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Should be fine for clearance. But my 275s in front do grab and try to wander a bit so be prepared for that. Mine r BFG comp2s.
what do you mean by they grab and try to wander? You just mean driving down the road they tend to just pull random directions on you?
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what do you mean by they grab and try to wander? You just mean driving down the road they tend to just pull random directions on you?
Like on irregular or crested black top I'll notice the tire pulling on that side. It's minor but I thot 285s might be worse. I've read that the wider front tires tend to do this.
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Like on irregular or crested black top I'll notice the tire pulling on that side. It's minor but I thot 285s might be worse. I've read that the wider front tires tend to do this.
Oh my stock 235-50-18 pirellies on 8" rims do this already very badly. I don't see how it can get worse.
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A decent bumpsteer kit can help reduce that effect, but wider tires will tramline more.
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A decent bumpsteer kit can help reduce that effect, but wider tires will tramline more.
I hadn't even really looked at those yet but seems like it will be a must to do bumpsteers and ball joins on my car. Haha I keep trying to find a line to stop at and things keep coming up.
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Looks like I'll be going down some rabbit holes here but then again, that's what happens when you have A.D.D.
Eh, honestly you don't need a bump steer kit unless you're dropping past 2 inches which kills your suspension anyways (trust me I'm running coilovers and currently testing this theory). You actually have some adjustment on the stock set. The Ball joints are a good idea but again, unless you're running coilovers or an aggressive drop those are unnecessary as well. The biggest compliment to a suspension includes a good set of struts and shocks (I prefer adjust so you can adjust to you're liking, even if you only adjust once). I like koni, they do extremely well with lowering springs aggressive or not and carry a lifetime warranty.... that they actually honor without question or hesitation. Get a good set of tires as well, running a little negative camber around 1 degree helps with crappy roads and will stop your car from "wondering". Hope this helps a bit, there are great parts to get for your suspension and parts that will waste your money. Shocks, springs, CC plates, LCA's (relo's optional) will help your car tremendously.
So much for a wheel thread, sorry.
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Oh my stock 235-50-18 pirellies on 8" rims do this already very badly. I don't see how it can get worse.
I don't recall if the 11s-12s have the electronic power steering but if you have the steering set to sport mode the grooves that tractor trailers leave in the roads bounce the steering all over the place, it's like riding a bull haha.. So I agree, I think it will get better if you go from 8 to 9.5.

Also, I saw up further you posted about occasionally getting bounced around when you hit bumps with your new shock/strut/spring combo. If what I read elsewhere is correct, the Brembo suspension is much stiffer than the non-Brembo setup, so when you go from non-brembo to aftermarket shocks/struts the ride will be stiffer, but if you go from Brembo to aftermarket the ride will be a little softer. I hope this is the case because I get thrown all over the place every time I hit a decent bump, to the point that on certain roads I won't even goose it because my back end hits a bump and goes nuts. I guess my point is that hopefully when I put my eibach's on that it improves as opposed to getting worse.
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Looks like I'll be going down some rabbit holes here but then again, that's what happens when you have A.D.D.
Eh, honestly you don't need a bump steer kit unless you're dropping past 2 inches which kills your suspension anyways (trust me I'm running coilovers and currently testing this theory). You actually have some adjustment on the stock set. The Ball joints are a good idea but again, unless you're running coilovers or an aggressive drop those are unnecessary as well. The biggest compliment to a suspension includes a good set of struts and shocks (I prefer adjust so you can adjust to you're liking, even if you only adjust once). I like koni, they do extremely well with lowering springs aggressive or not and carry a lifetime warranty.... that they actually honor without question or hesitation. Get a good set of tires as well, running a little negative camber around 1 degree helps with crappy roads and will stop your car from "wondering". Hope this helps a bit, there are great parts to get for your suspension and parts that will waste your money. Shocks, springs, CC plates, LCA's (relo's optional) will help your car tremendously.
So much for a wheel thread, sorry.
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I have H&R SS springs, Koni Str.t shocks and struts, maximum motorsports caster camber plates and a BMR pan hard bar. Getting LCA and relobrackets and UCA and bracket from BMR along with the wheels.

She pulled bad stock and just the same now lowered. It really only happens on crappy highways that are imprinted by semi trucks. Car had a professional alignment and still does it. If the bump steer and ball joints help this I'll gladly get them.

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I don't recall if the 11s-12s have the electronic power steering but if you have the steering set to sport mode the grooves that tractor trailers leave in the roads bounce the steering all over the place, it's like riding a bull haha.. So I agree, I think it will get better if you go from 8 to 9.5.

Also, I saw up further you posted about occasionally getting bounced around when you hit bumps with your new shock/strut/spring combo. If what I read elsewhere is correct, the Brembo suspension is much stiffer than the non-Brembo setup, so when you go from non-brembo to aftermarket shocks/struts the ride will be stiffer, but if you go from Brembo to aftermarket the ride will be a little softer. I hope this is the case because I get thrown all over the place every time I hit a decent bump, to the point that on certain roads I won't even goose it because my back end hits a bump and goes nuts. I guess my point is that hopefully when I put my eibach's on that it improves as opposed to getting worse.
Yeah I have a basic 11 which didn't have that feature. I have one steering mode only.

As for the bouncing part I have to hit serious bumps to get thrown. For example the one I am talking about when I first got my 2007 tundra and his this on the highway at 90 it launched my truck in the air a little. My 6500lb truck. I hate hitting it in the stang. It doesn't launch the stang but you hit really hard so I generally slow down for it. It is a plate on a highway that is about 12 feet long that the one end is sinking and it has created like a mini ramp. Speed limit is 65 too.

Else wise from bumps like that it is pretty smooth. Roads where I live just suck. Hell one part of our highway has been under constructions for over a year if I remember right and doesn't look any different now than it did months and months ago.
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Cld u I run h&r ss or eibach sportlines on 19x8.5/19x10 charcoal amr from am w 245/45 and 275/40 wirhout rubbing? Also doing bmr panhard double adjustable and camber bolts?

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Also backspacing is 5.93" on 19x8.5 off set is +30 and the 19x10s are backspacing 7.4" off set is +48. Someone please lmk if not I'm doing eibach pros or bmr springs.
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