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Old 04-03-2013, 05:53 AM   #1
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Ford Racing Short Throw

I have seen tons of posts about the Barton Short throw shifter and the MGW but I haven't seen anything on the Ford Racing short throw shifter. Does anyone have any info on the Ford Racing Short throw shifter?
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I think the price is what turns everybody off from it, looks exactly like a Barton clone... This shifter will probably never sell if its this expensive, for that u can get the complete MGW setup for cheaper and know your getting a solid product. I personally have the Barton shifter, with no complaints at all... If I could do all over again, I would've gotten the MGW setup since its been praised by many.
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I'm curious about this to. I was definitely leaning toward an MGW short throw but I don't have a lift or ramps and would have the dealership install it. With that said I was thinking it may void my warranty unless its a ford racing short throw? Any advice?
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It will only void your warranty if the dealer can prove that your modification caused part failure. With that said, some dealers will say or do anything they can to "prove" this.

I have an MGW and it's fantastic. I'm pretty sure the FRPP short shifter is the Barton, just a different color and logo
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It will only void your warranty if the dealer can prove that your modification caused part failure. With that said, some dealers will say or do anything they can to "prove" this.

I have an MGW and it's fantastic. I'm pretty sure the FRPP short shifter is the Barton, just a different color and logo
Ill talk to the dealer and see what he says. If he says ill be fine with the warranty if I go with the ford racing short throw then that's the route ill go, spending a little more coin for a piece of mind. If he says it will void my warranty regardless, ill go MGW. Does the ford racing have the reverse lock out still?
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I can't say for sure, but anyone making shifters for an MT82 would be stupid to not have the reverse lockout
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I can't say for sure, but anyone making shifters for an MT82 would be stupid to not have the reverse lockout
Just checked. It still retains the reverse lock out.
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I think all shifters have the lockout except the Hurst I think
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I can't say for sure, but anyone making shifters for an MT82 would be stupid to not have the reverse lockout
You mean like Hurst
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Have you guys noticed a big difference in the short through over stock? I just got my 2012 GT and it has the smoothest shift on any stock car I have ever driven. Plus my GT came with the factory billet shiftier, which I like a lot.
Do you still have that smooth transition when shifting with the ST or is it stiff like the 05-09 stangs?
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Have you guys noticed a big difference in the short through over stock? I just got my 2012 GT and it has the smoothest shift on any stock car I have ever driven. Plus my GT came with the factory billet shiftier, which I like a lot.
Do you still have that smooth transition when shifting with the ST or is it stiff like the 05-09 stangs?
The biggest problem is not so much the shortness of the gears, its fairly short from factory... The rubber bushing that holds the shifter is the biggest problem, under spirited high rpm shifting there's deflection from the rubber shift bracket which causes u to miss shifts... I changed both the shifter and bracket and notice a pretty big difference.
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Have you guys noticed a big difference in the short through over stock? I just got my 2012 GT and it has the smoothest shift on any stock car I have ever driven. Plus my GT came with the factory billet shiftier, which I like a lot.
Do you still have that smooth transition when shifting with the ST or is it stiff like the 05-09 stangs?
Grab the shifter when it is in a gear and push back and forth it wiggles a lot. The after market shifters won't have this much play. Less chance of missing a gear because of this.
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I know in the photos it looks just like the Barton but just seeing if anyone has any first hand experience with it compared to other shifters.
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I know in the photos it looks just like the Barton but just seeing if anyone has any first hand experience with it compared to other shifters.
I would like to no this to
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I've ordered the ford racing hurst shifter, a little more expensive but you avoid any warranty issues, 2-3'shifting on my gt is really tough above 5000 rpm, I've heard this is common problem on these trannys
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The FRPP shifter is a rebranded Barton shifter. Talked to barton about this and they confirmed. Levittown ford has them for 412 plus shipping, I know a company where they're pricing is around the same
I don't think there is a Ford racing Hurst shifter.
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You are probably right , in the front of the 2013 ford racing cat they reference hurst but on the 2013 later in the catalog they do not
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The FRPP shifter is a rebranded Barton shifter. Talked to barton about this and they confirmed. Levittown ford has them for 412 plus shipping, I know a company where they're pricing is around the same
I don't think there is a Ford racing Hurst shifter.
Great. Thanks for the info. I heard great things about the Barton shifter. So if it means going frpp shifter to keep my warranty so be it. If its going to be voided regardless MGW here I come.
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So I just watched some videos on installation of short through shifters and the stock components are CRAP! Looked like a big hunk of rubber and stamped piece of tin...
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^ you are absolutely correct, the Barton 2 post bracket worked wonders, but my MGW is even better with a shorter throw and wayyyy less nvh
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The biggest problem is not so much the shortness of the gears, its fairly short from factory... The rubber bushing that holds the shifter is the biggest problem, under spirited high rpm shifting there's deflection from the rubber shift bracket which causes u to miss shifts... I changed both the shifter and bracket and notice a pretty big difference.
Funny thing is, I have the mgw and the only shift that is a pain is 4th. It should be the easiest but I have to slam that b**** in for it to let it in
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Makes me wonder if something is wrong with your synchros because my 4th gear is smooth as butter
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Makes me wonder if something is wrong with your synchros because my 4th gear is smooth as butter
Yea all my shifts are smooth with mgw once warmed up.
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Thanks for all the info guys!!!
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got a 14 GT and got frpp short throw shifter installed. it feels nice, smooth. no problem going through gears. its a lil noisy but i was told its normal. i had a 13 GT dude go through gears and he liked it. he even said it was shorter than his MGW. im happy with it. yes its expensive but i got it for free lol but i heard barton makes it and its cheaper.
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So I just watched some videos on installation of short through shifters and the stock components are CRAP! Looked like a big hunk of rubber and stamped piece of tin...
Looks to me like a long electrical conduit clamp with a spongy rubber center. Extremely poor design.
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I have the FRPP shifter and I love it.
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I think all shifters have the lockout except the Hurst I think
The Hurst has a good system to keep a competent driver in the gear for the direction he wants. It works just fine. If a driver is not sure what gear he is engaging, he should be driving an automatic...just sayin
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Looks to me like a long electrical conduit clamp with a spongy rubber center. Extremely poor design.
It is quiet tho.....only good thing I can think of with the stock sponge bracket.
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I have the FRPP shifter and I love it.
i c u have k springs by frpp right? im also thinking about getting those springs or stedda 1.25 in drop on front and 1.5 rear. are k springs bouncy? any pics?
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The Hurst has a good system to keep a competent driver in the gear for the direction he wants. It works just fine. If a driver is not sure what gear he is engaging, he should be driving an automatic...just sayin
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i c u have k springs by frpp right? im also thinking about getting those springs or stedda 1.25 in drop on front and 1.5 rear. are k springs bouncy? any pics?
Not bouncy at all. Ride is a little stiffer then stock and drop is perfect. Pair them with a good strut and shock and you should be golden. Also I didn't need camber adj in the front. I was within ford specs with the gt500 strut mounts. No poping noise no squeaks just a better balanced car. See my other posts or profile for pics
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Have you guys noticed a big difference in the short through over stock? I just got my 2012 GT and it has the smoothest shift on any stock car I have ever driven. Plus my GT came with the factory billet shiftier, which I like a lot.
Do you still have that smooth transition when shifting with the ST or is it stiff like the 05-09 stangs?
I'm looking all over for that knob. Expensive as all hell from Ford and rarely seen on EBay? What package did it come with?
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Mine came in my 401a interior package. Its a 'billet knob', same shifter just a much better/different knob IMO. I didn't like the temperature extremes of the metal knob, didn't mind the looks. But, I wanted the retro look of a cue ball style. I will keep the billet ball around in the event the car is sold someday.
Do yourself a favor, if you haven't already, change to an after market shifter mount bushing/bracket. That alone will make any shifter even better.
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It will only void your warranty if the dealer can prove that your modification caused part failure. With that said, some dealers will say or do anything they can to "prove" this.

I have an MGW and it's fantastic. I'm pretty sure the FRPP short shifter is the Barton, just a different color and logo
If you be careful when working on the shifter install and don't scratch it up I'm sure you can reinstall the stock shifter no problem.

Unless they have one of those tamper stickers on so if you bust the seal...
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