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Old 04-05-2013, 02:50 AM   #1
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Suspension help!

I'm looking to purchase http://www.americanmuscle.com/eibach...stem-1112.html
Does anybody has any opinion on this kit? I also have a strut tower brace and want to know what else do I need to improve my handling? Thanks for you help
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I've seen the pro springs and have the sport line springs so I would advise you go with the sportline package. You will also need caster camber bolts and adjustable panhard bar. Would strongly advise a set of lca's to if you have the money. Here is a picture of mine on sportlines.



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Sway bars are unnecessary honestly. The stock ones are pretty good to begin with. The eibach springs are decent but their struts and shocks not so much.
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^ this. There are some companies moving away from many brands (ill leave the names out) and are moving towards konis. These are arguably the best dampers for street and road course mustangs
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I'm looking to purchase Eibach Mustang Pro-System-Plus (11-14 GT/V6) 35125.680 - Free Shipping!
Does anybody has any opinion on this kit? I also have a strut tower brace and want to know what else do I need to improve my handling? Thanks for you help
This is definitely a really nice kit! Like these guys said you can piece a nice kit together as well, they're both awesome options.

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I've seen the pro springs and have the sport line springs so I would advise you go with the sportline package. You will also need caster camber bolts and adjustable panhard bar. Would strongly advise a set of lca's to if you have the money. Here is a picture of mine on sportlines.
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^ this. There are some companies moving away from many brands (ill leave the names out) and are moving towards konis. These are arguably the best dampers for street and road course mustangs
I second Koni! If they can tame my H&R SS springs they can tame any springs.
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I've seen the pro springs and have the sport line springs so I would advise you go with the sportline package. You will also need caster camber bolts and adjustable panhard bar. Would strongly advise a set of lca's to if you have the money. Here is a picture of mine on sportlines.
What's a difference between them two? Is the sport one lower than pro?

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What's a difference between them two? Is the sport one lower than pro?
Plus I have 295/30/20 in the back so I'm not sure how low I can go b4 it starts rubbing?
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That, sir, is one beautiful Pony.
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What's a difference between them two? Is the sport one lower than pro?

Yes te difference is the amour of drop. I live in South Georgia and routinely drive through savannah so the roads arnt great and I never have any trouble with how low my car is and I have a chin spoiler to. I will be running a set of the 20 inch staggered amr wheels this a summer once I wear out my tires and won't have any trouble rubbing
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What's a difference between them two? Is the sport one lower than pro?

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Plus I have 295/30/20 in the back so I'm not sure how low I can go b4 it starts rubbing?
Low. I have 285-35-19 in the back and I dropped 2.4"
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I have sportline springs, adjustable pan hard bar and eibach camber bolts as well. The tires are 275/35/19 and I def have wheel gap. I have a close up of the front wheel gap. It difficult to get some contrast with the pics when everything is black. Lol. The drop was 1.7 front 2.4 back. Sits relatively level with the back about a .25 inch higher than the front.
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I have sportline springs, adjustable pan hard bar and eibach camber bolts as well. The tires are 275/35/19 and I def have wheel gap. I have a close up of the front wheel gap. It difficult to get some contrast with the pics when everything is black. Lol. The drop was 1.7 front 2.4 back. Sits relatively level with the back about a .25 inch higher than the front.
huh...that is interesting. I dropped the same as you 1.7 front and 2.4 back and I don't have nearly that big of a gap. I still have a gap, but not that big. Running 285-35-19 in the front and back.

how much did you cut your bumpstops?
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huh...that is interesting. I dropped the same as you 1.7 front and 2.4 back and I don't have nearly that big of a gap. I still have a gap, but not that big. Running 285-35-19 in the front and back.

how much did you cut your bumpstops?
The directions said not to cut them. Turns out though the nitro 275/35 are smaller in diameter than my stock Pirelli 245/45.

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It may be the angle of the pic too.

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Nitro lol. Nitto.
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The directions said not to cut them. Turns out though the nitro 275/35 are smaller in diameter than my stock Pirelli 245/45.

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It may be the angle of the pic too.

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Nitro lol. Nitto.
That much of a drop...if you didn't cut them...you litter ally sit on the bump stops...

You need to cut them...the car with just the suspension loaded should not sit on the bump stops. Your car is sitting higher because of this and probably doesn't ride half as good as it can. My front bump stops after I cut them were literally about a half inch tall.

If you pull your struts back apart you'll find the bump stops are getting crushed. Also look at the back ones and the frame of the car will be sitting on them. I cut those down hell a far too.

Car us supposed to be supported by the springs and not by the bump stops.
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That much of a drop...if you didn't cut them...you litter ally sit on the bump stops...

You need to cut them...the car with just the suspension loaded should not sit on the bump stops. Your car is sitting higher because of this and probably doesn't ride half as good as it can. My front bump stops after I cut them were literally about a half inch tall.

If you pull your struts back apart you'll find the bump stops are getting crushed. Also look at the back ones and the frame of the car will be sitting on them. I cut those down hell a far too.

Car us supposed to be supported by the springs and not by the bump stops.
The back bump stops were replaced with the supplied bump stops from eibach and my car rides quite well. I may take the struts apart again to see but the directions clearly state not to cut the front bump stops.
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I haven't had a chance yet to take the front struts off to check the bump stops yet but I want to ask about what you are using for camber and pinion angle adjustment.

I have camber bolts in the front. Haven't had time to get the alignment checked but I need to get the pinion back in line. Will LCA relo brackets do it or do I need an adjustable UCA to get it dialed in?
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I haven't had a chance yet to take the front struts off to check the bump stops yet but I want to ask about what you are using for camber and pinion angle adjustment.

I have camber bolts in the front. Haven't had time to get the alignment checked but I need to get the pinion back in line. Will LCA relo brackets do it or do I need an adjustable UCA to get it dialed in?
I'll have to find the sheet I have it somewhere that shows my caster and camber angles. They are within fords specs. I just forget what. Just moved so might take me a few days.

As for pinion angle I still don't gave an adjustable UCA so it is still probably way bad. Yes you need a UCA to fix pinion angle. Only thing the LCA do is provide better traction.
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I haven't had a chance yet to take the front struts off to check the bump stops yet but I want to ask about what you are using for camber and pinion angle adjustment.

I have camber bolts in the front. Haven't had time to get the alignment checked but I need to get the pinion back in line. Will LCA relo brackets do it or do I need an adjustable UCA to get it dialed in?
Camber bolts suck. I strongly recommend you Google "Camber Bolt Failure" and make your own decisions. Unless you're slammed the negative camber probably isn't that bad anyways.
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I'll have to find the sheet I have it somewhere that shows my caster and camber angles. They are within fords specs. I just forget what. Just moved so might take me a few days.

As for pinion angle I still don't gave an adjustable UCA so it is still probably way bad. Yes you need a UCA to fix pinion angle. Only thing the LCA do is provide better traction.
Do you have camber plates? Or bolts?
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Camber bolts suck. I strongly recommend you Google "Camber Bolt Failure" and make your own decisions. Unless you're slammed the negative camber probably isn't that bad anyways.
Im 1.7 dropped in the front and my car is a DD. Definitely had to do some sort of adjustment hardware to keep from shredding the inside of the front tires. This is the reason I have the same size wheels and tires on all 4 corners.

I know there are a lot of brands of camber bolts out there. Has anyone here had issues with eibachs camber bolts?
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Im 1.7 dropped in the front and my car is a DD. Definitely had to do some sort of adjustment hardware to keep from shredding the inside of the front tires. This is the reason I have the same size wheels and tires on all 4 corners.

I know there are a lot of brands of camber bolts out there. Has anyone here had issues with eibachs camber bolts?
I would consider that slammed. Do it right and get CC plates.
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Do you have camber plates? Or bolts?
Camber plates.

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I would consider that slammed. Do it right and get CC plates.
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So is j&m and steeda the only 2 CC plates out there for 11+?
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So is j&m and steeda the only 2 CC plates out there for 11+?
Maximum Motorsports has them for the 11-14 GT and the V6. AM carries them.
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So is j&m and steeda the only 2 CC plates out there for 11+?
I have MM. No complaints
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I meant MM not J&M.... J&M you need 10 struts.

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Looks like steeda is only 1 degree adjustment too. So really the only choice is MM??
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Vorshlag also makes CC plates for the S197 chassis (05-14). They are quite good.

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I meant MM not J&M.... J&M you need 10 struts.

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Looks like steeda is only 1 degree adjustment too. So really the only choice is MM??
Yeah...so buy them. They are worth it 100%. I have them and wouldn't do anything else.
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Vorshlag also makes CC plates for the S197 chassis (05-14). They are quite good.

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Wow. Those are expensive. Looks like that company knows what their doing though. Does anyone on the forum here have these?
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Wow. Those are expensive. Looks like that company knows what their doing though. Does anyone on the forum here have these?
Looks like the price difference from the maximum motorsports is two things. Bigger bushings with heavier duty bearings and they come with the spring mounts. With the maximum motorsports you have to use the spring mounts off your stock struts.
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Vorshlag also makes CC plates for the S197 chassis (05-14). They are quite good.

Vorshlag Ford '05-'13 S197 Mustang Aluminum Camber/Caster Plates & Perches - Vorshlag LLC
So...turns out the guy who owns Vorshlag lives about 5 miles from me. Also, I have a work associate who tracks his M3 which is running a full custom Vorshlag suspension set up. This M3 is BADA$$ and that suspension is extremly nice. I just may have to bite the bullet get these plates after all.

Thanks for the tip Napoleon85! would have never found or ask about them if you didn't share the link.
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Is there a difference in the camber plates?
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Looks like the price difference from the maximum motorsports is two things. Bigger bushings with heavier duty bearings and they come with the spring mounts. With the maximum motorsports you have to use the spring mounts off your stock struts.


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Is there a difference in the camber plates?
Read what I posted two posts above yours...
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