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Old 05-02-2013, 11:20 AM   #1
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Which Barton bracket

Well I've decided i want to install a Barton bracket to help with the notorious 2-3 shift, but cant decide if I want the regular, or 2-post bracket. Is there a major difference between the two in terms of feel and functionality?? I dont mind spending the extra couple bucks for the 2-post if it's worth it. I will be retaining the stock shifter, as i dont want to have any problems with my warranty by installing an aftermarket one. Unfortunately my dealer is picky about that stuff, and i figure the bracket alone can be switched back to stock if i need to. Thanks!
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The two post Barton shifter bracket is a killer product. The two post design allows front to back movements for the bracket mounting points, since the drive train does shift under hard acceleration, but completely eliminates side to side motion. In other words, you'll be able to shift gears just as easily as the standard Barton shifter bracket, but will reduce vibration up the shifter under hard acceleration.

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The two post Barton shifter bracket is a killer product. The two post design allows front to back movements for the bracket mounting points, since the drive train does shift under hard acceleration, but completely eliminates side to side motion. In other words, you'll be able to shift gears just as easily as the standard Barton shifter bracket, but will reduce vibration up the shifter under hard acceleration.

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Awesome thanks Shane, placing my order now!
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2 post bracket = some amazing shifting.
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2 post bracket = some amazing shifting.
AMs already got one on its way! Gotta love that fast shipping!
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If you get a chance, buy the shifter. That and the bracket combined make for the best mod that I've done to my car yet.
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If you get a chance, buy the shifter. That and the bracket combined make for the best mod that I've done to my car yet.
Yea I definitely agree, it's a totally different feeling!! It should've come stock with this setup, feels nice and positive w/o it being too difficult to shift... Only reverse takes a bit more effort which is fine for me
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Yea I definitely agree, it's a totally different feeling!! It should've come stock with this setup, feels nice and positive w/o it being too difficult to shift... Only reverse takes a bit more effort which is fine for me
Lol I like to think that I'm building my reverse gear muscles cuz they make d@mn sure that going into reverse is intentional. In other words, the reverse lockout spring is super tight and stiff.
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Lol I like to think that I'm building my reverse gear muscles cuz they make d@mn sure that going into reverse is intentional. In other words, the reverse lockout spring is super tight and stiff.
Yeah I've read that. I will probably end up getting the shifter further down the line as well. But like i said i dont wanna create any warranty issues, at least for now, since the car only has 3k miles on it.
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I'm going to upgrade to the Barton two-post bracket and get rid of that fugly stock shifter knob. Will it be OK without changing the shifter as well?
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I'm going to upgrade to the Barton two-post bracket and get rid of that fugly stock shifter knob. Will it be OK without changing the shifter as well?
Yeah you can use the bracket with a stock or aftermarket shifter. Im just doing the bracket for now.
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Yeah you can use the bracket with a stock or aftermarket shifter. Im just doing the bracket for now.
Great. I wanted to save a little coin for other things, provided the shifter bracket did the trick. I plan on upgrading the clutch fluid line too. I've read about line restrictions and pedals hanging on the floor. I'm more concerned with safety and guarding against premature repairs than anything else in the beginning.
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The Barton two-post shifter should do the trick for both of you guys! You'll find a huge difference in the feel of the shifter, even if it's stock. Also, we're looking into bringing some upgraded clutch lines in, too. We should have some on the site in a few weeks!

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The Barton two-post shifter should do the trick for both of you guys! You'll find a huge difference in the feel of the shifter, even if it's stock. Also, we're looking into bringing some upgraded clutch lines in, too. We should have some on the site in a few weeks!

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Good deal. Ill keep my eye out for that as well.
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The Barton two-post shifter should do the trick for both of you guys! You'll find a huge difference in the feel of the shifter, even if it's stock. Also, we're looking into bringing some upgraded clutch lines in, too. We should have some on the site in a few weeks!

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Thanks, Shane. The two-post bracket will certainly be installed on my Pony soon after I get it. A steel-braided clutch line will also be purchased, but I'll wait and see what you offer at AM.
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Thanks, Shane. The two-post bracket will certainly be installed on my Pony soon after I get it. A steel-braided clutch line will also be purchased, but I'll wait and see what you offer at AM.
Ill be installing mine today. I let you know how it feels with the stock shifter.
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Just got done installing the 2-post. And it feels great so far. Shifts feel much more "solid" as opposed to the soft stock feel. As far as the 2-3 shift, i went out and beat the car up for about 20 min shifting hard constantly, and didnt have any problems at all. My only question is i now get quite a bit more road noise when cruising coming up from under the car. Is this normal? Or did i mess something up?
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Just got done installing the 2-post. And it feels great so far. Shifts feel much more "solid" as opposed to the soft stock feel. As far as the 2-3 shift, i went out and beat the car up for about 20 min shifting hard constantly, and didnt have any problems at all. My only question is i now get quite a bit more road noise when cruising coming up from under the car. Is this normal? Or did i mess something up?
I thought it only did that if u change the shifter... When u start the car with the windows closed, does it sound like the starter is right next to u??
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Just got done installing the 2-post. And it feels great so far. Shifts feel much more "solid" as opposed to the soft stock feel. As far as the 2-3 shift, i went out and beat the car up for about 20 min shifting hard constantly, and didnt have any problems at all. My only question is i now get quite a bit more road noise when cruising coming up from under the car. Is this normal? Or did i mess something up?
Now you know why they use that soft rubber, it doesn't transmit nvh like the poly types do.
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Now you know why they use that soft rubber, it doesn't transmit nvh like the poly types do.
The dynamat with the MGW significantly decreases any NVH even with a solid shift bracket
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Just got done installing the 2-post. And it feels great so far. Shifts feel much more "solid" as opposed to the soft stock feel. As far as the 2-3 shift, i went out and beat the car up for about 20 min shifting hard constantly, and didnt have any problems at all. My only question is i now get quite a bit more road noise when cruising coming up from under the car. Is this normal? Or did i mess something up?
Thanks Evil. I'll be following your lead on the two-post bracket. Sounds like a smart investment. I plan on buying some noise insulation to deaden the sound and further guard against heat in the console area.
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The dynamat with the MGW significantly decreases any NVH even with a solid shift bracket
Perfect, thanks for the info. The noise really doesnt bother me at all. I think the sound of the new shifts are awesome. So much more solid sounding. Just wanted to make sure it was normal.

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Thanks Evil. I'll be following your lead on the two-post bracket. Sounds like a smart investment. I plan on buying some noise insulation to deaden the sound and further guard against heat in the console area.
No problem man. I definitely highly recommend it. Can't beat the difference it makes for $100.
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Thanks Evil. I'll be following your lead on the two-post bracket. Sounds like a smart investment. I plan on buying some noise insulation to deaden the sound and further guard against heat in the console area.
That's exactly what I did... First I put some dynamat around the shifter base, then I stuffed the under the console with insulation from Home Depot... It's all empty space under there, and it made a huge difference and decreased noise bigtime!! Also, I don't feel heat coming from the console/shifter area anymore
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That's exactly what I did... First I put some dynamat around the shifter base, then I stuffed the under the console with insulation from Home Depot... It's all empty space under there, and it made a huge difference and decreased noise bigtime!! Also, I don't feel heat coming from the console/shifter area anymore
I appreciate your guidance. That's what I want to do during the bracket install. Should be better when I'm running that ice cold air this summer.
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I'm not sure if the OP has bought a shift bracket yet or not, but if it tells you anything the Barton 2-post imitates the MGW shift bracket, and MGW is the shizz
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I'm not sure if the OP has bought a shift bracket yet or not, but if it tells you anything the Barton 2-post imitates the MGW shift bracket, and MGW is the shizz
Yeah, already bought and installed the 2-post. Thanks though!
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Just got done installing the 2-post. And it feels great so far. Shifts feel much more "solid" as opposed to the soft stock feel. As far as the 2-3 shift, i went out and beat the car up for about 20 min shifting hard constantly, and didnt have any problems at all. My only question is i now get quite a bit more road noise when cruising coming up from under the car. Is this normal? Or did i mess something up?
Glad you like the Barton shifter bracket! As others mentioned, pick up some Boom Mat sound/vibration dampening material and you'll be set for road noise. I usually line the whole drivetrain tunnel, but that's over kill.

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Yeah I've read that. I will probably end up getting the shifter further down the line as well. But like i said i dont wanna create any warranty issues, at least for now, since the car only has 3k miles on it.
I am putting the Ford Racing Barton Shifter in mine. I have it, just waiting to get it installed. Since it's a Ford part being installed at a Ford dealer. it won't jeopardize the warranty.

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I am putting the Ford Racing Barton Shifter in mine. I have it, just waiting to get it installed. Since it's a Ford part being installed at a Ford dealer. it won't jeopardize the warranty.

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Not a ford part....Ford and Ford racing are not the same company....
Thats what I thought. So I'd still have warranty problems.
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Thats what I thought. So I'd still have warranty problems.
theoretically yes. People never want to mention, but a dealership may say you'll be fine with them but say your whole trannie blows and they call in Actual Ford, you run a high risk of it not being covered as Ford won't care what some dealership promised when they are footing the giant bill.

Said it before, do a mod like this an assume you have no warranty and be thankful when Ford covers you if an issue arises.
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I am putting the Ford Racing Barton Shifter in mine. I have it, just waiting to get it installed. Since it's a Ford part being installed at a Ford dealer. it won't jeopardize the warranty.

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theoretically yes. People never want to mention, but a dealership may say you'll be fine with them but say your whole trannie blows and they call in Actual Ford, you run a high risk of it not being covered as Ford won't care what some dealership promised when they are footing the giant bill.

Said it before, do a mod like this an assume you have no warranty and be thankful when Ford covers you if an issue arises.
Exactly. Thats why I'm just going to stick with only the 2-post for now. I saved the stock one, just incase i have any trans problems, i can swap them back out easy enough to avoid any trouble they may give me for it.
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Exactly. Thats why I'm just going to stick with only the 2-post for now. I saved the stock one, just incase i have any trans problems, i can swap them back out easy enough to avoid any trouble they may give me for it.
chances of them being able to argue that would cause a trannie problem would be extremely hard to do. On the other hand a complete shifter replacement and a blown trannie would be easier to pin on the shifter. At least they would fight that one much harder.
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chances of them being able to argue that would cause a trannie problem would be extremely hard to do. On the other hand a complete shifter replacement and a blown trannie would be easier to pin on the shifter. At least they would fight that one much harder.
Good to know. Hopefully they will be ok with it. Worst comes to worst, if they argue it, ill go home, put the stock bracket on, and go to the other dealership 15 miles away. Or do they keep a record of all that crap??

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Honestly though, i may just go ahead and get a whole new shifter. Ive installed plenty of aftermarket shifters in the past, and they dont seem difficult at all to do on the 5.0 as well. So hell i could do the same thing, keep the stock one, and switch it back if i need to.
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