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Old 05-13-2013, 12:52 PM   #1
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Right Rear Squeaking After Lowering

My car has been lowered for about two weeks now. I changed springs, shocks, struts, and my panhard rod. There is a fairly loud squeaking type sound coming from the right rear when I go over bumps or any generally not smooth pavement. At first I thought it was the panhard rod not being greased sufficiently, so I took it out, greased it up really well, put it back in and the squeaking is no better. Any ideas as to what I should try doing? If I stand over the car and bounce the suspension I can hear the squeak.

I can hear it over the radio at times, so turning it up is not an option
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It could be an exhaust bushing. You're closer to the ground so you'd hear it better.
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My car has been lowered for about two weeks now. I changed springs, shocks, struts, and my panhard rod. There is a fairly loud squeaking type sound coming from the right rear when I go over bumps or any generally not smooth pavement. At first I thought it was the panhard rod not being greased sufficiently, so I took it out, greased it up really well, put it back in and the squeaking is no better. Any ideas as to what I should try doing? If I stand over the car and bounce the suspension I can hear the squeak.

I can hear it over the radio at times, so turning it up is not an option
Mine does the same thing now. From the drivers side. Not quite as loud as you are describing though, but definitely noticeable with windows up and radio off. As well as pushing the rear up and down. I was thinking it could just be the polyurethane bushings from my new panhard bar.
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It could be an exhaust bushing. You're closer to the ground so you'd hear it better.
Are you talking about the bushings on the hangers for the axle backs? I could try lubing those up. I did notice one of them has a good tear in it already.

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Mine does the same thing now. From the drivers side. Not quite as loud as you are describing though, but definitely noticeable with windows up and radio off. As well as pushing the rear up and down. I was thinking it could just be the polyurethane bushings from my new panhard bar.
Most people seem to say the bushings should be quiet as long as you've greased them, or at least barely noticeable. I'm desperate though it's loud enough to the point you know people outside can hear it. It makes the car sound cheap.
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I did grease the bushings, so im going to assume its not the panhard bar then. wow, my noise is not nearly that loud but sounds almost identical to the way you're descibing your problem. Just not as severe. What kind of springs and shocks did you install? Mine are the steeda ultralites and koni str.t shocks.
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Eibach pro kit shocks/struts/springs. I didn't have an impact gun for the install so the only thing I can think that it'd possibly be is the nut at the top of the shock not being tight one we put the wheels back on the ground. Possibly the exhaust bushings based on what Defiant said.
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Eibach pro kit shocks/struts/springs. I didn't have an impact gun for the install so the only thing I can think that it'd possibly be is the nut at the top of the shock not being tight one we put the wheels back on the ground. Possibly the exhaust bushings based on what Defiant said.
The top nut is the first thing i checked on mine. I used an impact gun for the install, so they were tight. As well as the bottom shock nut. Have you made sure your spring perch is still intact?
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The top nut is the first thing i checked on mine. I used an impact gun for the install, so they were tight. As well as the bottom shock nut. Have you made sure your spring perch is still intact?
Yea they looked fine during install.
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You definitely shouldn't use an impact gun on the shock mount. The torque spec is basically "wrist tight."
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You definitely shouldn't use an impact gun on the shock mount. The torque spec is basically "wrist tight."
So you think my problem is that they are to tight? I didnt make them extremely tight, just tight enought to were the little rubber seal expanded.

I will try losening them a bit tomorrow and see if that helps. They are easy enough to get to, so might as well try it
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You definitely shouldn't use an impact gun on the shock mount. The torque spec is basically "wrist tight."
Yeah they are like 25-30 ft-lbs which isn't much.
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Yeah they are like 25-30 ft-lbs which isn't much.
Ok cool. Ill try losening them up abit tomorrow and report back whether it helped or not.
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Ok cool. Ill try losening them up abit tomorrow and report back whether it helped or not.
You might need to replace them. Not sure about yours but my instructions were very clear to be careful not to squish the mounts.
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You might need to replace them. Not sure about yours but my instructions were very clear to be careful not to squish the mounts.
Damn, any idea where i can get those? Think an auto parts store or ford will carry them?

I cant find them anywhere online. But i could be searching using the wrong wording. Only bit of info i could find was to make sure the rubber bushing does not expand further out than the washer.
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Heres how it looks now. It was a little tigher then it probably should have been. So i backed it off a few turns. It is now hand tight, and the rubber stays within the washer. Does it look about right?

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Heres how it looks now. It was a little tigher then it probably should have been. So i backed it off a few turns. It is now hand tight, and the rubber stays within the washer. Does it look about right?

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This is what I did when I lowered mine. Just don't over tighten and leave the rubber some room to pact and expand. Once rubber is over tightened it will rub with the body plate and produces squeaking sound instead of absorbing the vibration.
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This is what I did when I lowered mine. Just don't over tighten and leave the rubber some room to pact and expand. Once rubber is over tightened it will rub with the body plate and produces squeaking sound instead of absorbing the vibration.
Does mine still look to tight?
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Does mine still look to tight?
I untighten mine gradually until the squeak was gone. Basically, tuning process instead of following the recommended torque. The Koni shocks that I installed has lock washer between the washer that holds the rubber in place and the nut, so I'm somewhat confident that it will hold the nut in place.
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Does mine still look to tight?
25-30 ft pounds would be, grabbing a 1/2" drive ratchet close to the head and giving it a firm twist if you don't have a torque wrench .
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Yeah ive heard that some shocks come with new ones, and others dont. Unfortunately the strt didnt. Im just worried that if i leave it to loose it will back out on me.

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25-30 ft pounds would be, grabbing a 1/2" drive ratchet close to the head and giving it a firm twist if you don't have a torque wrench .
Ok thanks for the comparison. Dont have a torque wrench handy right now.
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Here is what mine looks like. Probably needs more greasing.
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Here is what mine looks like. Probably needs more greasing.
Are you supposed to grease them?

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I untighten mine gradually until the squeak was gone. Basically, tuning process instead of following the recommended torque. The Koni shocks that I installed has lock washer between the washer that holds the rubber in place and the nut, so I'm somewhat confident that it will hold the nut in place.
So the source of your squeaking was the shock nuts being too tight?
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Just to keep little moist on the rubber and prevent drying up.
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So the source of your squeaking was the shock nuts being too tight?

This is what I did in mine and it fixed my issue.. It maybe different in your case, but you can try this and it may work in your car as well.


Btw, am not suppose to be in this thread, mine is just a sixer. Just thought I could share something.
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This is what I did in mine and it fixed my issue.. It maybe different in your case, but you can try this and it may work in your car as well.

Btw, am not suppose to be in this thread, mine is just a sixer. Just thought I could share something.
Are those the stock ones? Or did your shocks come with a new set? If those are stock, then mine are way to damn tight.
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It came with the shocks. Koni has different thread size and diameter than the stock.
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It came with the shocks. Koni has different thread size and diameter than the stock.
Yeah unfortunately the koni strts dont come with new ones. The threads are the same as stock. Anybody got a picture of some stock ones for comparison?
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Yeah unfortunately the koni strts dont come with new ones. The threads are the same as stock. Anybody got a picture of some stock ones for comparison?
My Koni came with the mount. The stock did not fit to the Koni. When I installed mine, I thought of re-using the stock mount but it did not fit. The stock mount appears to be better quality than Koni's just by sight comparison. As for the dursbility, it maybe otherwise.
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My Koni came with the mount. The stock did not fit to the Koni. When I installed mine, I thought of re-using the stock mount but it did not fit. The stock mount appears to be better quality than Koni's just by sight comparison. As for the dursbility, it maybe otherwise.
What koni shocks do you have though? Ive heard the sports come with new ones, but everyone ive talked to with strts didn't get new ones, and reused the stockers.
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Yeah thats what i thought, its a different bushing. Thanks for the pic tho. Hopefully somebody with a stock one will post up a pic for comparison.
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I also sometimes have an annoying squeak In the rear when the car bounces a little.
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I'm starting to think it's more of a metal on metal contact I'm having, but I have no idea what why or how? Sometimes I can hear the sound when I bounce the suspension, sometimes I can't. Sometimes it goes on constantly and loudly a whole trip, sometimes it doesn't make a sound.. It's not weather dependent that I can tell.
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I'm starting to think it's more of a metal on metal contact I'm having, but I have no idea what why or how? Sometimes I can hear the sound when I bounce the suspension, sometimes I can't. Sometimes it goes on constantly and loudly a whole trip, sometimes it doesn't make a sound.. It's not weather dependent that I can tell.
Check the exhaust where it goes over the axle.
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Check the exhaust where it goes over the axle.
Yep I had mine touching the spare tire wheel well at one point and was making a horrendous noise.
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