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Old 05-20-2013, 12:26 AM   #1
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BIG RACE 2012 mustang gt

Hey guys I'm new to this. Wanted to know some good mods for my stock gt (auto )
I have a big race coming up with all my buddies
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Control arms, good tires and a tune will help you out a lot. I'm assuming its the 1/4 mile
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Control arms, good tires and a tune will help you out a lot. I'm assuming its the 1/4 mile
Do you have any in mind ? Or which brand I should go with ?
Also yea it's a 1/4 mile
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Check out Americanmuscle.com they have a wide variety of parts
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Okay yea thanks

I was gonna get the track And street package from maximum motor sports
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Driver mod, stickier tires. LCA's really won't do you any good if you're not a good driver. Whats the suspension setup of the other cars and what wheels/ tires are they running? Porche's are really known for the 1/4 mile as their suspension is soo damn stiff so I wouldn't worry about that car.
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You don't need suspension mods to beat them. In fact, you'd waste your money.

Assuming the guy with '04 Cobra is a good driver, he'll run mid to upper 11's with drags. Don't know much about the 911.

I have a friend with your exact car, he's running consistent 11.5-11.7's with a CAI, Bama race tune (93), axleback exhaust and MT drag slicks on 15" drag star wheels. With that setup he'll beat an '04 Cobra stock.

I'd focus on 2 things: traction, and a HP gain with a shift improvement from a tune. I hate to say it, but these 5.0's with an auto trans are fast and don't take much to run 11's.
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You don't need suspension mods to beat them. In fact, you'd waste your money.

Assuming the guy with '04 Cobra is a good driver, he'll run mid to upper 11's with drags. Don't know much about the 911.

I have a friend with your exact car, he's running consistent 11.5-11.7's with a CAI, Bama race tune (93), axleback exhaust and MT drag slicks on 15" drag star wheels. With that setup he'll beat an '04 Cobra stock.

I'd focus on 2 things: traction, and a HP gain with a shift improvement from a tune. I hate to say it, but these 5.0's with an auto trans are fast and don't take much to run 11's.
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You don't need suspension mods to beat them. In fact, you'd waste your money.

Assuming the guy with '04 Cobra is a good driver, he'll run mid to upper 11's with drags. Don't know much about the 911.

I have a friend with your exact car, he's running consistent 11.5-11.7's with a CAI, Bama race tune (93), axleback exhaust and MT drag slicks on 15" drag star wheels. With that setup he'll beat an '04 Cobra stock.

I'd focus on 2 things: traction, and a HP gain with a shift improvement from a tune. I hate to say it, but these 5.0's with an auto trans are fast and don't take much to run 11's.
I disagree. Suspension is everything when racing these cars. Its the weakest point of the car by FAR. Traction will be BETTER with slicks obviously, but if you really want to hook you will definitely need new LCAS and brackets. These cars also squat horribly on a hard launch, so a good set of springs and dampeners, will again, help you hook drastically. Without a good suspension set up, you will never hook the way you want to.

Btw, i dont think there is ANYWAY what so ever that a 04 cobra with exhaust and cai will run mid 11s. They are quick but no where near that. They are only rated at like 390ish stock. So with exhaust and cai hes MAYBE making 370-380whp. No way you can run mid 11s with that. Especially with no suspension work.
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I disagree. Suspension is everything when racing these cars. Its the weakest point of the car by FAR. Traction will be BETTER with slicks obviously, but if you really want to hook you will definitely need new LCAS and brackets. These cars also squat horribly on a hard launch, so a good set of springs and dampeners, will again, help you hook drastically. Without a good suspension set up, you will never hook the way you want to.

Btw, i dont think there is ANYWAY what so ever that a 04 cobra with exhaust and cai will run mid 11s. They are quick but no where near that. They are only rated at like 390ish stock. So with exhaust and cai hes MAYBE making 370-380whp. No way you can run mid 11s with that. Especially with no suspension work.
So changing up my suspension will help me
What tune cai do you think is the best to gain hp and tq?
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With no suspension work on a stock auto with no tune you will be able to gain traction. If you run a race tune then suspension is a must. I have an 13 auto and I had no problem gaining traction at first . But now that I have a tune it is difficult to gain traction even with the tires heated up. You shouldnt have to much trouble with the gt stang. Idk to much about the 911 though. If you have the means get a tune, LCAs, relocation brackets, lowering springs to about 1.5 inch, camber bolts and panhard bar. And if possible get some better tires your gonna need them. Don't worry about the CAI right now.
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With no suspension work on a stock auto with no tune you will be able to gain traction. If you run a race tune then suspension is a must. I have an 13 auto and I had no problem gaining traction at first . But now that I have a tune it is difficult to gain traction even with the tires heated up. You shouldnt have to much trouble with the gt stang. Idk to much about the 911 though. If you have the means get a tune, LCAs, relocation brackets, lowering springs to about 1.5 inch, camber bolts and panhard bar. And if possible get some better tires your gonna need them. Don't worry about the CAI right now.
Thanks bro what have you ran on your car ? What mods do you. Have ?
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No need for a CAI, you'd do better investing in stock Air Box Tune, and UCA"s, and LCA's with LCA relocation bracket.
I have a 2013 6A, 3.15 gears, stock Goodyear F1's, stock exhaust with GT500 Axlebacks, stock air box, and CHE UCA, Steeda LCA, Whiteline LCA relocation bracket, here are my dyno results, and track results:

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Thanks bro what have you ran on your car ? What mods do you. Have ?
The only thing I have right now worth power is a race tune from bama. I am currently working on money for suspension and tires. I have had the car for a year now and I'm used to driving it now. I have also had other mustang for years but this 5.0 is completely different. I will be hitting the track once these other mods are done and an extra set of tires for race use only since it my dd. I haven't gone yet. I can ensure you if you can find a safe place to practice that will give you a big advantage. I have done this and have had plenty of practice but i learn new things everytimr i do. just Work on your launches, it's not to difficult with auto just has long as you can gain traction, that's the key with these cars.
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No need for a CAI, you'd do better investing in stock Air Box Tune, and UCA"s, and LCA's with LCA relocation bracket.
I have a 2013 6A, 3.15 gears, stock Goodyear F1's, stock exhaust with GT500 Axlebacks, stock air box, and CHE UCA, Steeda LCA, Whiteline LCA relocation bracket, here are my dyno results, and track results:
Nice numbers bro
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So changing up my suspension will help me
What tune cai do you think is the best to gain hp and tq?
I personally would get a good set of rims/tires, lowering springs, good set of dampeners, LCAs and brackets, uca and bracket, panhard bar, and either gt500 strut mounts, or if you can afford it steeda or maximum motorsports cc plates. After that a good tune. Like someone mentioned before i would skip the cai intake for now and put it towards suspension, or a boss manifold with your tune so you can rev it higher.
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I personally would get a good set of rims/tires, lowering springs, good set of dampeners, LCAs and brackets, uca and bracket, panhard bar, and either gt500 strut mounts, or if you can afford it steeda or maximum motorsports cc plates. After that a good tune. Like someone mentioned before i would skip the cai intake for now and put it towards suspension, or a boss manifold with your tune so you can rev it higher.
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I say get slicks and 15 inch wheels
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No need for a CAI, you'd do better investing in stock Air Box Tune, and UCA"s, and LCA's with LCA relocation bracket.
I have a 2013 6A, 3.15 gears, stock Goodyear F1's, stock exhaust with GT500 Axlebacks, stock air box, and CHE UCA, Steeda LCA, Whiteline LCA relocation bracket, here are my dyno results, and track results:
400whp with just axlebacks? Damn that the most ive seen a stock car put down. Are you tuned?
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I say get slicks and 15 inch wheels
Seeing as he has an auto drag radials would work better.
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400whp with just axlebacks? Damn that the most ive seen a stock car put down. Are you tuned?
That is with a 93 octane tune, the axle backs don't gain anything but better exhaust sound. Even my tuner was surprised by the results, next step is to datalog a few passes, so I can send it to my tuner, and see what he can do with the shifts.

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I personally would get a good set of rims/tires, lowering springs, good set of dampeners, LCAs and brackets, uca and bracket, panhard bar, and either gt500 strut mounts, or if you can afford it steeda or maximum motorsports cc plates. After that a good tune. Like someone mentioned before i would skip the cai intake for now and put it towards suspension, or a boss manifold with your tune so you can rev it higher.
Agreed 100%. Thats everything I did, except for the Boss Intake.
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Nice numbers bro
I see where you get your parts at ?
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The LCA's are Steeda, UCA, and Mount from CHE, PHB from freedom racing, the LCA relocation bkt from whiteline, Steeda Sport Springs, Steeda Pro Action shocks and struts. GT500 Strut Mounts, from Ford Racing
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The tuner is from:
WELCOME TO TUNING BY JAMES

The LCA's are Steeda, UCA, and Mount from CHE, PHB from freedom racing, the LCA relocation bkt from whiteline, Steeda Sport Springs, Steeda Pro Action shocks and struts. GT500 Strut Mounts, from Ford Racing
Extremely good numbers with just a tune
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I disagree. Suspension is everything when racing these cars. Its the weakest point of the car by FAR. Traction will be BETTER with slicks obviously, but if you really want to hook you will definitely need new LCAS and brackets. These cars also squat horribly on a hard launch, so a good set of springs and dampeners, will again, help you hook drastically. Without a good suspension set up, you will never hook the way you want to.

Btw, i dont think there is ANYWAY what so ever that a 04 cobra with exhaust and cai will run mid 11s. They are quick but no where near that. They are only rated at like 390ish stock. So with exhaust and cai hes MAYBE making 370-380whp. No way you can run mid 11s with that. Especially with no suspension work.
Not disagreeing that suspension mods aren't needed on these cars, but, with his objective (to beat those two cars), he can do it cheaper with a tune and drag radials. Like I said, my buddy has an '11 5.0 auto, 11.7 all night bro. Low temps and he's hit 11.5. Doing suspension mods will not improve 1/4 times as drastically as drags with a tune that alters shift points and gets more out of the motor. I'm actually embarrassed to run against my buddy's auto GT. Even with slicks and a tune I think he'd still edge me with the auto, it just shifts faster and it's point and shoot.

It's true that the suspension on these cars squats, but that's not what hurts traction, in fact, a quick rear weight transfer is desirable. The rear suspension is just too stiff with too much wheel hop. If you're truly after a drag car, then yes, you need to revamp the entire suspension.

My friend with the '04 Cobra (Mystic Chrome btw, # 275) has a tune, smaller pulley, exhaust and drags and he runs mid 11's. The '04 Cobras have a lot of potential to be unlocked with tunes and a pulley swap.

Not an expert by any means, but I'm just commenting on what I've seen first hand at the track.
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Not disagreeing that suspension mods aren't needed on these cars, but, with his objective (to beat those two cars), he can do it cheaper with a tune and drag radials. Like I said, my buddy has an '11 5.0 auto, 11.7 all night bro. Low temps and he's hit 11.5. Doing suspension mods will not improve 1/4 times as drastically as drags with a tune that alters shift points and gets more out of the motor. I'm actually embarrassed to run against my buddy's auto GT. Even with slicks and a tune I think he'd still edge me with the auto, it just shifts faster and it's point and shoot.

It's true that the suspension on these cars squats, but that's not what hurts traction, in fact, a quick rear weight transfer is desirable. The rear suspension is just too stiff with too much wheel hop. If you're truly after a drag car, then yes, you need to revamp the entire suspension.

My friend with the '04 Cobra (Mystic Chrome btw, # 275) has a tune, smaller pulley, exhaust and drags and he runs mid 11's. The '04 Cobras have a lot of potential to be unlocked with tunes and a pulley swap.

Not an expert by any means, but I'm just commenting on what I've seen first hand at the track.
Oh im not disagreeing that a tune isnt important. And yes a tune will probably yield bigger results quicker, but i would ATLEAST do lcas for now. Or else hes going to have crazy wheel hop on slicks.
As far as the cobra, yes absolutely with those mods your buddy has will get you into the mid 11s. A friend of mine has one as well, but with a ported blower, boost a pump, etc etc, and is making crazy power. But this guy, according to the OP only has exhaust. That alone won't get you anywhere near mid 11s
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Oh im not disagreeing that a tune isnt important. And yes a tune will probably yield bigger results quicker, but i would ATLEAST do lcas for now. Or else hes going to have crazy wheel hop on slicks.
As far as the cobra, yes absolutely with those mods your buddy has will get you into the mid 11s. A friend of mine has one as well, but with a ported blower, boost a pump, etc etc, and is making crazy power. But this guy, according to the OP only has exhaust. That alone won't get you anywhere near mid 11s
Missed the part about the mods on the Cobra. Yeah stock with just exhaust he'll run 12's. At the end of the day though there is SO much variable in driving ability. I've seen guys with S197 Shelby's running 13's. The first time my buddy took his Cobra to the track with those mods (I think he has a boost pump as well), he couldn't even beat MY best ET with my stock '13. He was terrible at launching and even missed a few gears because the car was an animal.

It all depends on what the OP wants to accomplish and whether or not he plans to race often. In my case, my Pony is my daily driver and I won't be running at the track often. I'm just doing appearance mods for now so it doesn't look like every other '13. Eventually I plan on a full suspension upgrade as well as performance mods. I'm pretty happy with the power for a daily driver and have no complaints about the suspension yet (other than ride height) unless I'm at the track. I can't tune mine for another 30,000 miles though...warranty. Lol
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Hey guys I'm new to this. Wanted to know some good mods for my stock gt (auto )
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If that is what they are running you have them beat already...I would go for sticky tire, so you can hook up off the line... A tune is always good too, SCT/Bama tuner from AM you get free codes for life...Practice you Launch, reaction time is a major factor....I am assuming this is a completely legal race at a sanctioned track if so try to practice your reaction time off of there tree...
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If that is what they are running you have them beat already...I would go for sticky tire, so you can hook up off the line... A tune is always good too, SCT/Bama tuner from AM you get free codes for life...Practice you Launch, reaction time is a major factor....I am assuming this is a completely legal race at a sanctioned track if so try to practice your reaction time off of there tree...
You don't need to leave when the tree hits green.... Has no effect on your time
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Missed the part about the mods on the Cobra. Yeah stock with just exhaust he'll run 12's. At the end of the day though there is SO much variable in driving ability. I've seen guys with S197 Shelby's running 13's. The first time my buddy took his Cobra to the track with those mods (I think he has a boost pump as well), he couldn't even beat MY best ET with my stock '13. He was terrible at launching and even missed a few gears because the car was an animal.

It all depends on what the OP wants to accomplish and whether or not he plans to race often. In my case, my Pony is my daily driver and I won't be running at the track often. I'm just doing appearance mods for now so it doesn't look like every other '13. Eventually I plan on a full suspension upgrade as well as performance mods. I'm pretty happy with the power for a daily driver and have no complaints about the suspension yet (other than ride height) unless I'm at the track. I can't tune mine for another 30,000 miles though...warranty. Lol
Lol i hear ya man. Im not tuning or doing any motor mods until my warranty is up as well. Thats the main reason i started with suspension. Get that checked off the list now. Not done though, still want to get lcas and uca. Mines my daily driver as well, but i hated that stock wheel gap. Looks like truck from the factory. But unfortunately to properly lower these cars, all those other things (panhard bar, dampeners, cc plates, uca, etc) are needed as well.
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You don't need to leave when the tree hits green.... Has no effect on your time
WTF? This has nothing to do with his time, and everything to do with winning the race...If they beat him off the line, they have a shot at beating him.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:50 AM   #31
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You don't need to leave when the tree hits green.... Has no effect on your time
It's a race, not a time slip comparison. You can fall asleep on the line, run a second quicker et and still loose the race.
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Last time I ran at the track, this dude in turbo POS Honda stages in the other lane. I LET the tree go and let him get a head start before I ran. The reason was this dude scared me with his bat mobile. He ran a 13.4 and I ran a 12.9, but he finished the run 1st. Back in the staging area he was bragging about how he beat a 5.0. What am idiot. Like I'm going to risk your falling apart POS rice box breaking and coming across my lane and taking my car out? Yea...no thanks. FYI, if you wreck on a drag strip, you're SOL, because no insurance company will pay for repairs. So think twice before "racing" against random people on the drag strip. I've seen videos in YouTube where dumb a$$ess can't drive, lose control, and take out the guy next to them. Lol
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Last time I ran at the track, this dude in turbo POS Honda stages in the other lane. I LET the tree go and let him get a head start before I ran. The reason was this dude scared me with his bat mobile. He ran a 13.4 and I ran a 12.9, but he finished the run 1st. Back in the staging area he was bragging about how he beat a 5.0. What am idiot. Like I'm going to risk your falling apart POS rice box breaking and coming across my lane and taking my car out? Yea...no thanks. FYI, if you wreck on a drag strip, you're SOL, because no insurance company will pay for repairs. So think twice before "racing" against random people on the drag strip. I've seen videos in YouTube where dumb a$$ess can't drive, lose control, and take out the guy next to them. Lol
I have seen insurance company's hire people to go to the tracks and record License plates of people racing...They will drop them the following week. So, it might be smart to remove your plate, cover your vin# and use a fake name, when your at the track...
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I have seen insurance company's hire people to go to the tracks and record License plates of people racing...They will drop them the following week. So, it might be smart to remove your plate, cover your vin# and use a fake name, when your at the track...
under what grounds are they cancelling the policy?

I've heard this myth many times but have never met someone it happened to. My agent knows I race both SCCA and drag events and could care less...

It is true, however, that you are not covered under your normal auto policy at any timed race event. If you wreck or someone wrecks you it is all out of your pocket.
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I have seen insurance company's hire people to go to the tracks and record License plates of people racing...They will drop them the following week. So, it might be smart to remove your plate, cover your vin# and use a fake name, when your at the track...
Screw that, i wouldn't want to be insured by a company that's spying on me anyway lol. If i wreck at the track, i know its on me. Thats the risk we take, which is why they have policies in place to protect themselves from being liable. Dont understand why they would bother doing that.

I already agreed to their terms, and as long as i am aware im liable and pay my bill on time, why would they want to cancel a policy? Thats money they are losing out on.
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