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Old 05-24-2013, 08:32 AM   #36
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I heard Shawn @ AED has really good tunes. His Brembo Pkg ran a 11.7 @ 116 on just a E-85 tune and slicks
Yep. I have Shaun's tunes & they r much better than Bama which I had first.
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I talked to the guy I worked with when i bought my mustang less than 2 weeks ago while my dad and brother were test driving a v6 premium for him. I asked what I could do without the warranty getting voided.

He first said I'll tell you the dealer answer first, "Your warranty will be voided if you come in for something and the issue is related to something that was modified."

Then he put his "friend hat on" as he said. "Mustangs were and are meant to be modified. We all know you want to get as many ponies to the ground and play around and have fun. If you go and put a blower on it today in your garage, and blow the motor, if you go back home and take the blower off and send it to us, we'll never know probably. Now, we have a guy who is a Nationally ranked drag racer, (whom I know personally and told the dealer I did), who will be glad to sit and talk with you about what you want to do to the car. He can do the work here at Nelson Ford, and then your warranty be covered (even with non Ford Racing products). Now, tuners will leave small "fingerprints", but we probably will never know, (but I told him it will be tuned shortly and he was fine with that). He said if Eric (the drag racer/mechanic) does the installation, he can wipe those small 'fingerprints' off. Since you're buying local (we've bought 3 vehicles from the in the last year, with cash) we will be glad to help you modify your car to how you want and still keep your Ford warranty."

So basically, just be honest with your dealer. They usually aren't out to get you, at least the guys at my dealership aren't. It helps to get to know them, I come from a small town and my Grandfather helped start the owner of the dealerships trucking company up. Find out which service guys will check out a blower under the hood and ask for a joy ride instead of blowing smoke up your rear and say your warranty is voided.

Here's a video of Eric McMillon's Mustang (one of the head service techs):

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Just got the car 2 months ago and wondering what the best cai and tuner is for the car. And if its a good idea to void the warranty so soon. It only has 2100 miles .. Thanks !
We can definitely hook you with up a Bama custom tune and CAI combo kit! I would recommend going with the Bama SCT SF3 tuner, paired together with a JLT, Airaid or SR performance Intake. I went with the JLT Carbon Fiber CAI on my 2011 GT, just for the added looks!

I noticed a huge difference the second I drove the car. You'll notice a big increase in power, torque, acceleration, drive ability, gas mileage, throttle response and so much more! For every Bama Tune we ask you 19 questions about your specific Mustang, including your unique mods and style of driving. This info helps us write custom tunes from the ground-up for your Mustang's mods that will give you the most horsepower that we can safely deliver. We're also constantly developing our tunes! Between our 14 different Project Mustangs and tons of street/track and dyno testing (on our in-house Dynojet 224xLC), we're looking for any minor tweaks to be made that can benefit you guys. We're also part of Fords Technology Transfer Program & Work very closely with Ford to insure that all of our tunes are perfect!

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I talked to the guy I worked with when i bought my mustang less than 2 weeks ago while my dad and brother were test driving a v6 premium for him. I asked what I could do without the warranty getting voided.

He first said I'll tell you the dealer answer first, "Your warranty will be voided if you come in for something and the issue is related to something that was modified."

Then he put his "friend hat on" as he said. "Mustangs were and are meant to be modified. We all know you want to get as many ponies to the ground and play around and have fun. If you go and put a blower on it today in your garage, and blow the motor, if you go back home and take the blower off and send it to us, we'll never know probably. Now, we have a guy who is a Nationally ranked drag racer, (whom I know personally and told the dealer I did), who will be glad to sit and talk with you about what you want to do to the car. He can do the work here at Nelson Ford, and then your warranty be covered (even with non Ford Racing products). Now, tuners will leave small "fingerprints", but we probably will never know, (but I told him it will be tuned shortly and he was fine with that). He said if Eric (the drag racer/mechanic) does the installation, he can wipe those small 'fingerprints' off. Since you're buying local (we've bought 3 vehicles from the in the last year, with cash) we will be glad to help you modify your car to how you want and still keep your Ford warranty."

So basically, just be honest with your dealer. They usually aren't out to get you, at least the guys at my dealership aren't. It helps to get to know them, I come from a small town and my Grandfather helped start the owner of the dealerships trucking company up. Find out which service guys will check out a blower under the hood and ask for a joy ride instead of blowing smoke up your rear and say your warranty is voided.

Here's a video of Eric McMillon's Mustang (one of the head service techs):



You can see the autosbyNELSON.com sticker, which is where we've been doing business locally!
LOL....they are feeding you so much bull....
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LOL....they are feeding you so much bull....

So you're telling me the owner of the dealership, whom is good friends with my grandfather, is feeding him bull****? My grandfather has helped the guy make a LOT of money in business, and he's returned the favor with price reduction on some vehicles and special attention when we take vehicles into the shop.

I've met the head service guy before, the same one driving that mustang in the video, personally. I've been to his shop to get head work done on an Audi I built. I don't smell a hint of bull****.
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So you're telling me the owner of the dealership, whom is good friends with my grandfather, is feeding him bull****? My grandfather has helped the guy make a LOT of money in business, and he's returned the favor with price reduction on some vehicles and special attention when we take vehicles into the shop.

I've met the head service guy before, the same one driving that mustang in the video, personally. I've been to his shop to get head work done on an Audi I built. I don't smell a hint of bull****.
I'm sniffing out alot if it man.... I think your just feeding into it
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So you're telling me the owner of the dealership, whom is good friends with my grandfather, is feeding him bull****? My grandfather has helped the guy make a LOT of money in business, and he's returned the favor with price reduction on some vehicles and special attention when we take vehicles into the shop.

I've met the head service guy before, the same one driving that mustang in the video, personally. I've been to his shop to get head work done on an Audi I built. I don't smell a hint of bull****.
Just so you are aware, some repairs regardless of what the dealership says are going to HAVE to go through Ford and Ford themselves are not going to follow what the dealer told you.

Say you blow your engine while tuned, Ford has to get involved and they are going to blame that on the tuner. So your telling me that the dealership is going to then fork over 6K for a new engine plus labor to install it when ford Denys the claim then continue to offer you a warranty when actual Ford had already marked it as void? Means any and all repairs will have to be paid for by the dealer.

Sorry man, you are getting worked, or they just have no idea what they are talking about.
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I'm sniffing out alot if it man.... I think your just feeding into it
Regardless, I don't care about the warranty. I'm not gonna push the motor to the extent of blowing it up drag racing everyday. I trust the man, he gave me and my grandfather his word and I know he'll stand behind it. I know every dealership on the face of this planet is viewed as the lowest job on the totem pole but when you actually know the owner of the majority of the car dealerships in a small town personally, he'll take care of you.

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Just so you are aware, some repairs regardless of what the dealership says are going to HAVE to go through Ford and Ford themselves are not going to follow what the dealer told you.

Say you blow your engine while tuned, Ford has to get involved and they are going to blame that on the tuner. So your telling me that the dealership is going to then fork over 6K for a new engine plus labor to install it when ford Denys the claim then continue to offer you a warranty when actual Ford had already marked it as void? Means any and all repairs will have to be paid for by the dealer.

Sorry man, you are getting worked, or they just have no idea what they are talking about.
Yeah, go tell the guy that owns that mustang he has no idea what he's talking about...

If HE installs the tune, HE will take off any trace of the tune that was installed if something goes wrong.

I'm not trying to start an argument over something so minuscule but I know these guys outside of their workplace...
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Regardless, I don't care about the warranty. I'm not gonna push the motor to the extent of blowing it up drag racing everyday. I trust the man, he gave me and my grandfather his word and I know he'll stand behind it. I know every dealership on the face of this planet is viewed as the lowest job on the totem pole but when you actually know the owner of the majority of the car dealerships in a small town personally, he'll take care of you.

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Yeah, go tell the guy that owns that mustang he has no idea what he's talking about...

If HE installs the tune, HE will take off any trace of the tune that was installed if something goes wrong.

I'm not trying to start an argument over something so minuscule but I know these guys outside of their workplace...
Sorry man, that isn't how it works...then ford is going to start asking why the PCM was JUST wiped for a blown motor and know something was up regardless.

People like you come in here all the time thinking this and always get mad when you get proven wrong. You can get defensive as you want, but at the end of the day they are wrong. Your under the impression that Ford is stupid and some guy at a dealership can in anyway outsmart them.

You are just playing with fire.
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Dude, you really have no idea how car dealerships work. They are not owned and operated by the manufacturer. They have to PAY Ford or Chevy or whoever for every vehicle that goes on their lot. Your warranty is not provided BY your dealer, but THROUGH your dealer. Any warranty claims that require replacement parts from Ford, will have the claim evaluated. The dealer will bill the manufacturer for labor and/or parts off their shelves that are used.

So while this guy seems very friendly, and no doubt he is, even if he owned the dealership, he really can't do **** for your warranty other than try and help you hide any mods that caused it. Your warranty is with Ford, not the dealership you purchased it from. I could start a car dealership if I wanted and pick whatever manufacturer I want to sell for. I've even seen the same dealership owner have multiple dealerships for multiple manufacturers. For example, Haldeman FORD as has a Haldeman Nissan right next door.
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Dude, you really have no idea how car dealerships work. They are not owned and operated by the manufacturer. They have to PAY Ford or Chevy or whoever for every vehicle that goes on their lot. Your warranty is not provided BY your dealer, but THROUGH your dealer. Any warranty claims that require replacement parts from Ford, will have the claim evaluated. The dealer will bill the manufacturer for labor and/or parts off their shelves that are used.

So while this guy seems very friendly, and no doubt he is, even if he owned the dealership, he really can't do **** for your warranty other than try and help you hide any mods that caused it. Your warranty is with Ford, not the dealership you purchased it from. I could start a car dealership if I wanted and pick whatever manufacturer I want to sell for. I've even seen the same dealership owner have multiple dealerships for multiple manufacturers. For example, Haldeman FORD as has a Haldeman Nissan right next door.
I'm well aware it's not the dealership who provides the warranty, I'm not stupid... You're telling me things I already know. I know a dealer can have multiple dealerships. What's your point anyways? I'm confused on where you're helping me here.
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Nosympathy, how did you paint your wheels? Plasti-Dip? We have the same ones.
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Nosympathy, how did you paint your wheels? Plasti-Dip? We have the same ones.
We do? Are you looking at my old black rims? Those were the stock 18" rims plasti dipped black. I currently have RTR rims in a custom dark bronze.
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We do? Are you looking at my old black rims? Those were the stock 18" rims plasti dipped black. I currently have RTR rims in a custom dark bronze.

Oops, must have looked at your old ones! How did you like them compared to stock silver?

I want to plasti dip mine black until I save up for some wheels and tires. Will it protect them if I want to sell the originals?
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Oops, must have looked at your old ones! How did you like them compared to stock silver?

I want to plasti dip mine black until I save up for some wheels and tires. Will it protect them if I want to sell the originals?
it didn't look bad, it is obvious that they are not a high quility wheel while plasti dipped but it helped a lot with the look. Up close plasti dip to me looks ehhhh, but further back they look decent. It will protect them from maybe, rocks and such, but not going to protect them from curb rash or anything like that.

personally I HATE silver and chrome wheels, so I had plasti dip cans sitting in my house just waiting and waiting for the weather to get nicer to plasti dip them. The plasti dip started peeling after 4ish months but I was already buying the RTR so i didn't really care.

for 25 dollars tho at a max for the plasti dip well worth it until you get better rims. Specially if you hate silver/chrome like I do. I have pretty much 100% dechromed my car now on the exterior.
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it didn't look bad, it is obvious that they are not a high quility wheel while plasti dipped but it helped a lot with the look. Up close plasti dip to me looks ehhhh, but further back they look decent. It will protect them from maybe, rocks and such, but not going to protect them from curb rash or anything like that.

personally I HATE silver and chrome wheels, so I had plasti dip cans sitting in my house just waiting and waiting for the weather to get nicer to plasti dip them. The plasti dip started peeling after 4ish months but I was already buying the RTR so i didn't really care.

for 25 dollars tho at a max for the plasti dip well worth it until you get better rims. Specially if you hate silver/chrome like I do. I have pretty much 100% dechromed my car now on the exterior.

We're the same, I cannot STAND chrome... It's so ugly, I don't know how people restore 70's muscle and put chrome EVERYWHERE....

Did you put wheel paint over the plasti-dip or just left the plasti-dip as the final coat? You can go back once you've got new wheels and just peel the paint off correct?
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We're the same, I cannot STAND chrome... It's so ugly, I don't know how people restore 70's muscle and put chrome EVERYWHERE....

Did you put wheel paint over the plasti-dip or just left the plasti-dip as the final coat? You can go back once you've got new wheels and just peel the paint off correct?
Ehhh I had a 1970 Chevelle SS 454 with all the chrome. I only left it because it was an original matched numbers car and I wanted it 100% stock looking for resale, helped me get a fortune when I sold it. Had I kept it, the chrome would have been gone one way or another. It was Gold and Chrome...so gross. Original paint and looks sells though...

if you put wheel paint over the plasti dip good luck to getting that off haha. It will come off but you are going to cry and want to throw your rims away first. If you do 4-5 coats of plasti dip it will just peel off. You pick an edge up and pull slowly and it will come off.
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Ehhh I had a 1970 Chevelle SS 454 with all the chrome. I only left it because it was an original matched numbers car and I wanted it 100% stock looking for resale, helped me get a fortune when I sold it. Had I kept it, the chrome would have been gone one way or another. It was Gold and Chrome...so gross. Original paint and looks sells though...

if you put wheel paint over the plasti dip good luck to getting that off haha. It will come off but you are going to cry and want to throw your rims away first. If you do 4-5 coats of plasti dip it will just peel off. You pick an edge up and pull slowly and it will come off.
Well shoot, I woulda kept that thing original haha. We have a lot of people where I'm from that think chrome everything is the way to go... Like 22 inch chrome wheels. You'll see more chrome on cars here than not chrome, haha. I won't put anything chrome on anything I own.
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Well shoot, I woulda kept that thing original haha. We have a lot of people where I'm from that think chrome everything is the way to go... Like 22 inch chrome wheels. You'll see more chrome on cars here than not chrome, haha. I won't put anything chrome on anything I own.
22" rims...LOL...so cute. Dubs are big here. Ya know, 30+ inch rims, in Chrome.
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22" rims...LOL...so cute. Dubs are big here. Ya know, 30+ inch rims, in Chrome.
I saw one of the tire shops near my work put 30's on a f150 lmao... 22's are small here too haha, but I hate big chrome wheels...
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LOL....they are feeding you so much bull....
Not necessarily. Issues that pertain to modifications are purely dealership dependent. For example, my 2011 had a 2.3 whipple, Lund tuned, SW headers, O/R xpipe, Barton short throw, 1 pc Driveshaft and pushing around 630+ to the wheels. My trans completely went after mustang week, I took it into my dealer (which I was honest with since day 1). They knew everything that was done to the car...... They replaced my trans for free, also while the car was there I picked up an Exedy Hyper twin disc and asked them if they could install it while it was already on the lift. Dealer never gave me an issue and complimented me for being proactive in trying to save the next transmission.
It is too easy for a dealer to claim that the fault of the issue is either due to aftermarket parts or not. A ford regional technician will not be involved usually unless that dealership requests for one.
Few reasons why I know this. My stepfather works for Ford Corporate as one of the lead electrical engineers, my good friend works in the Ford prototype department, I install FRPP parts for a couple dealers in my area and I've experienced it first hand.
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A dealership has more say than you think. Often times, ford will deny a claim because of what the dealership says. If the dealership is backing you, you've got a good shot. They tend to know what to say and how to say it.

In the end. They can't dent a warranty claim because your PCM was cleared. They will try, but it won't fly.
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can you adjust the shift points on a sct tuner after installing a tune on your car.. or is that only possible without having a tune on. ive got the boss intake with the 93 race tune but I do not fell like it is shifting to its limits.. ive heard it nedds to shift at around 7400 rpm to get the most out it.. Just wondering
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can you adjust the shift points on a sct tuner after installing a tune on your car.. or is that only possible without having a tune on. ive got the boss intake with the 93 race tune but I do not fell like it is shifting to its limits.. ive heard it nedds to shift at around 7400 rpm to get the most out it.. Just wondering
You actually need to be shifting around 7700-7800. If you have a Bama tune and it sounds like you do then they did not leave that option open for you. You need to contact them and get a revision.
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Should I be shifting at that rpm in all gears? And yes I do have a bama tune. And my car is an auto.
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Man, some of you guys crack me up lol. "I want a tune but I only have 8k miles"

I told myself I'll tune mine when I get 1,000 miles on it, and I thought that was waiting a while lol!
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Man, some of you guys crack me up lol. "I want a tune but I only have 8k miles"

I told myself I'll tune mine when I get 1,000 miles on it, and I thought that was waiting a while lol!
I don't even think I waited 1000 lol these cars don't break. drive em straight into the ground
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We're the same, I cannot STAND chrome... It's so ugly, I don't know how people restore 70's muscle and put chrome EVERYWHERE....

Did you put wheel paint over the plasti-dip or just left the plasti-dip as the final coat? You can go back once you've got new wheels and just peel the paint off correct?
Chrome is tons better than gold plated ghetto crap!
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You actually need to be shifting around 7700-7800.
Man, my ******* would be puckering taking it up that high with the stock oil pump gear and valve springs. You're asking for trouble shifting that high without supporting mods.
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Man, my ******* would be puckering taking it up that high with the stock oil pump gear and valve springs. You're asking for trouble shifting that high without supporting mods.
Big +1^. LMAO
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Man, my ******* would be puckering taking it up that high with the stock oil pump gear and valve springs. You're asking for trouble shifting that high without supporting mods.
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Big +1^. LMAO
And yet there are many doing it without any problems.
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My car is shifting in every gear at or close to 7200 rpm's. should I ask for a new tune with changed shift points? Or is it safer to leave it alone?
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My car is shifting in every gear at or close to 7200 rpm's. should I ask for a new tune with changed shift points? Or is it safer to leave it alone?
Yes ask them to raise your shift points. You will be fine.
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My car is shifting in every gear at or close to 7200 rpm's. should I ask for a new tune with changed shift points? Or is it safer to leave it alone?
Unless your a regular at the track, leave it a lone. 7200rpm on the street is unsafe for anyone.
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