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Old 06-01-2013, 10:05 PM   #1
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Steeda CAI claims 40+ hp gains!

In my search for a CAI for my 2013 GT I stumbled across the steeds CAI which claims 40+ hp gains. This was the most performance gains I saw in a CAI. My questions: 1) if anyone has this CAI, did you see these gains without any other mods? 2) is this the best of the best or does anyone have another recommendation?
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Its all tune. You already have a cai....
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Its all tune. You already have a cai....
So you're saying leave the factory CAI in and just do a tune?
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There are conflicting ideas and everyone has their opinion, but I have a steeda Cai (w/ tune of course) on my 3.7 and OMG what a difference. I just don't see how ppl can say that a stock box can flow as good as this Cai.
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I'll say this. I got a steeda tune with stock intake first, and then 6 months later I added the cai and had them update the tune and it was much more aggressive. Now...this could have been the updated tune.
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There are conflicting ideas and everyone has their opinion, but I have a steeda Cai (w/ tune of course) on my 3.7 and OMG what a difference. I just don't see how ppl can say that a stock box can flow as good as this Cai.
Now I've seen the argument made that the increased engine noise will make people think the car is doing better than it really is. So when u say it makes a difference, have u tested these numbers; whether it be via dyno or timed runs or some other form?
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There are conflicting ideas and everyone has their opinion, but I have a steeda Cai (w/ tune of course) on my 3.7 and OMG what a difference. I just don't see how ppl can say that a stock box can flow as good as this Cai.
You did the tune at the same time...how can you say the CAI did anything?

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So you're saying leave the factory CAI in and just do a tune?
You can do the cai. Arguments are, even steeda has admitted, the cai itself is good for maybe 9HP max. Which isn't as much as ya think. Now, I have a cai and like the sound, and you will get increased throttle response. But to say it adds a lot of HP is probably nowhere near true.
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Now I've seen the argument made that the increased engine noise will make people think the car is doing better than it really is. So when u say it makes a difference, have u tested these numbers; whether it be via dyno or timed runs or some other form?
A friend of mine races his 3.7 and he claims that the steeda gave him up to a tenth off of his quarter mile vs other Cai's
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A friend of mine races his 3.7 and he claims that the steeda gave him up to a tenth off of his quarter mile vs other Cai's
Why are we even talking about the 3.7 here...it doesn't directly relate to the 5.0. I don't get the sixxers who come in here and give 5.0 engine advice........
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Why are we even talking about the 3.7 here...it doesn't directly relate to the 5.0. I don't get the sixxers who come in here and give 5.0 engine advice........
Lol unsubbed , yall have fun
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You did the tune at the same time...how can you say the CAI did anything?

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You can do the cai. Arguments are, even steeda has admitted, the cai itself is good for maybe 9HP max. Which isn't as much as ya think. Now, I have a cai and like the sound, and you will get increased throttle response. But to say it adds a lot of HP is probably nowhere near true.
I've never had a CAI in a car before and you wouldn't be the first person to mention the sound; is this sound like the an air release when you shift (kinda like turbo) or just a louder growl from the engine?
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I've never had a CAI in a car before and you wouldn't be the first person to mention the sound; is this sound like the an air release when you shift (kinda like turbo) or just a louder growl from the engine?
It has been a long time since I installed mine, and a few exhaust variations since, but if I remember right my exhaust sounded a little more open and a tad louder. Not so much your average person would care, but I noticed it immediately. The open CAI does have kinda a mild FI sound too it. Nothing like an actual turbo or supercharger pulling in air, but does give that whooshing air sound.

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I'll say this. I got a steeda tune with stock intake first, and then 6 months later I added the cai and had them update the tune and it was much more aggressive. Now...this could have been the updated tune.
when you say aggressive could you mean increased throttle response? That is definitely a benefit of the open CAI. I can definitely say that is one thing I remember immediately, but my CAI didn't require a tune and so I did it by itself before tuning and noticed the throttle response only.
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It has been a long time since I installed mine, and a few exhaust variations since, but if I remember right my exhaust sounded a little more open and a tad louder. Not so much your average person would care, but I noticed it immediately. The open CAI does have kinda a mild FI sound too it. Nothing like an actual turbo or supercharger pulling in air, but does give that whooshing air sound.

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when you say aggressive could you mean increased throttle response? That is definitely a benefit of the open CAI. I can definitely say that is one thing I remember immediately, but my CAI didn't require a tune and so I did it by itself before tuning and noticed the throttle response only.
Yes, but I felt like the car pulled a lot harder. There was increased throttle as well. It could have the revisions in the tune as well.
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I run the steeda CAI with a vmp tune through an auto and it is definitely a tune/CAI combination that gets you the power. I gained 45HP ON DYNO from stock and have put down 394rwhp with this combo, keep in mind the A6 eats about 25% power train loss compared to the mt82. I wouldn't get rid of my CAI either...
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I run the steeda CAI with a vmp tune through an auto and it is definitely a tune/CAI combination that gets you the power. I gained 45HP ON DYNO from stock and have put down 394rwhp with this combo, keep in mind the A6 eats about 25% power train loss compared to the mt82. I wouldn't get rid of my CAI either...
How can you say that. Have you run the car with just a tune from vmp? It is silly to say the cai did anything when you add it with a tune.

That'd be like me taking an antibiotic and drinking a coke at the same time and telling you it was the coke/antibiotic combo that made me feel better.
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How can you say that. Have you run the car with just a tune from vmp? It is silly to say the cai did anything when you add it with a tune.

That'd be like me taking an antibiotic and drinking a coke at the same time and telling you it was the coke/antibiotic combo that made me feel better.
Sorry didnt mean to be confusing, I was agreeing with you that the gains are mostly in the tune and most beneficial when applied as a combination.
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I run the steeda CAI with a vmp tune through an auto and it is definitely a tune/CAI combination that gets you the power. I gained 45HP ON DYNO from stock and have put down 394rwhp with this combo, keep in mind the A6 eats about 25% power train loss compared to the mt82. I wouldn't get rid of my CAI either...
WTF?! 25% powertrain loss?! Absolutely not, it's ~15%
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How can you say that. Have you run the car with just a tune from vmp? It is silly to say the cai did anything when you add it with a tune.

That'd be like me taking an antibiotic and drinking a coke at the same time and telling you it was the coke/antibiotic combo that made me feel better.
You never know, Coke is the real thing.
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You never know, Coke is the real thing.
Haha the original coke formula maybe
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WTF?! 25% powertrain loss?! Absolutely not, it's ~15%
So your saying powertrain loss is the same between the M6 and A6 and you think its 15%? Lol
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So you dynoed at 349 stock
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So your saying powertrain loss is the same between the M6 and A6 and you think its 15%? Lol
Well it's not 25% like you stated. Maybe the old AOD's in the Foxes but not the 6R80.
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So you dynoed at 349 stock
Yes, typically M6 cars with the same mods as mine dyno at 415-425, A6's struggle to get to 400.
But the A6 will make good use if the power at the track
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Yes, typically M6 cars with the same mods as mine dyno at 415-425, A6's struggle to get to 400.
But the A6 will make good use if the power at the track
Are you accounting for the manual being able run a 1:1 in 5th which your auto doesn't have?
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Yes, typically M6 cars with the same mods as mine dyno at 415-425, A6's struggle to get to 400.
But the A6 will make good use if the power at the track
So you picked up 45 rwhp and your only mods are intake and tune and the intake can be debated? Not bad.
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So your saying powertrain loss is the same between the M6 and A6 and you think its 15%? Lol
Clearly you're confused here, I never said anything about the 6r80 and the mt82 have the same power train loss, you're only assuming that's what I mean... And you're assuming incorrectly. The mt82 is proven to be 11-12% and the 6r80 right around 15%.

So I stead of trying to condescendingly laugh at what I say maybe you should try being humble and learning
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Clearly you're confused here, I never said anything about the 6r80 and the mt82 have the same power train loss, you're only assuming that's what I mean... And you're assuming incorrectly. The mt82 is proven to be 11-12% and the 6r80 right around 15%.

So I stead of trying to condescendingly laugh at what I say maybe you should try being humble and learning
Thats impressive for an auto!
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Haha the original coke formula maybe
It's actually the glass bottle not the recipe itself. Drinking it from a can is like a cai with no tune
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It's actually the glass bottle not the recipe itself. Drinking it from a can is like a cai with no tune
I was talking about when they used actual hard drugs in making it....Lol.
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The 45 HP number is for the 11-12. Ford raised the base HP number in '13 to 420 so you will see 30 with tune and cai combined ... still very good gains.

Where the aftermarket cold air shines is in airflow to support higher horsepower. On the dyno we typically see 9 to 12 horsepower over the stock airbox, mostly above 4,000rpm.

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Do you need a tune if you get a CAI?
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Yes ... with the Steeda CAI it requires a tune.
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I heard from some people that a tune can void the warranty on your car? Is it true?
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Just to make it clear. Just because you put a part on your vehicle it DOES NOT void your warranty. For a product to affect the warranty, there must be an investigation done by the party refuting the warranty to prove that the aftermarket product indeed caused the OEM component part to fail. Just because you put a CAI on your car it does not does not automatically void the warranty. The CAI would have the be the direct cause that caused the part to fail. Also, you have to remember when installing aftermarket parts you are responsible to care and drive the car in a non malicious way - because no warranty covers "abuse" .

Please read the Magnusson - Moss Warrant Act.

X part would have to cause an issue with the vehicle and an investigation would have to take place to prove x part caused the issue.

X part only effects the warranty on X location.

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