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Old 06-09-2013, 08:54 PM   #1
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I hope I'm not overdoing this tread . But hot a question!! I have a 2012 GT, I've had it lowered about 1.25 " in the rear!! When I'm driving about 50mphs and down shift and step on. It the rear rand squats down and it takes off like a rocket. But after it Squats , it takes off but than the tires break lose than the RPM's shoot up real quick!! I Do still have the stock LCA's on.. Would install new LCA's and relocating brackets help out wit traction?
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No. What kind of tires do you have?
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Aftermarket lca's reduce wheel hop at launch. Your problem isn't wheel hop, it's breaking traction at 50mph. Are you jumping off the clutch?
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Aftermarket lca's reduce wheel hop at launch. Your problem isn't wheel hop, it's breaking traction at 50mph. Is your mustang auto or manual?
It's manual , and the stock tires, but it's been doing it ever since I lowerd it!! With new tires!!

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It's manual , and the stock tires, but it's been doing it ever since I lowerd it!! With new tires!!
I am planning on getting wider tires for the back like 285's

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Aftermarket lca's reduce wheel hop at launch. Your problem isn't wheel hop, it's breaking traction at 50mph. Are you jumping off the clutch?
And no, I let the clutch out first than punch it!!! Like I said, the rear end squats down and it takes off but it's like I hit the power band, than that's it. No traction!!!
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Lca's & relocation brackets would be a good investment but it won't solve your problem as well as a nice fatter set of tires would. It looks like you're running the stock 18's. a 275 would go a long way to reduce spinning out. I'm running 275's and it made a huge difference in my launch and overall traction. I think the 18's are an 8 inch wide or 8.5 inch wide wheel. You might wanna double check that a 275 won't be too wide for that rim.
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I have the 19x9.5 wheels!! I believe!! But they are the 19" rims!! I read on here someplace that 285's fit fine with no rubbing!!

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I have the 19x9.5 wheels!! I believe!! But they are the 19" rims!! I read on here someplace that 285's fit fine with no rubbing!!
If you looking at my profile pictures, that's my first 2012 I had!! It was just a base Model, I now have the 2012 premium package!! With the 19" rims and tower brace in front!!!

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[QUOTE="Tominkc;1682897"]I have the 19x9.5 wheels!! I believe!! But they are the 19" rims!! I read on here someplace that 285's fit fine with no rubbing!!

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If you looking at my profile pictures, that's my first 2012 I had!! It was just a base Model, I now have the 2012 premium package!! With the 19" rims and tower brace in front!! But I'm sure wider tires would really help!! From a dead stop and taking off, my rear end is all over the place, it even does it at a 10 mph roll than stomp on the pedal, it takes off but once I hit the power band, forget it, tires brake loose !! I know wider tires would help, but I was wondering if new LCA's and relocating brackets on the second hole would help at all!! Right know I get no wheel hop at all
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I have the 19x9.5 wheels!! I believe!! But they are the 19" rims!! I read on here someplace that 285's fit fine with no rubbing!!

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If you looking at my profile pictures, that's my first 2012 I had!! It was just a base Model, I now have the 2012 premium package!! With the 19" rims and tower brace in front!!!

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Oh, lol! You tricked me!
Yeah, go 285's bro! That'll eliminate your excess wheel spin.
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Breaking the tires loose at 50mph??!!!!!! Sounds a little exaggerated to me!!!! Even with stock width tires!!!! What are you other mods??!!
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Breaking the tires loose at 50mph??!!!!!! Sounds a little exaggerated to me!!!! Even with stock width tires!!!! What are you other mods??!!
It doesn't to me, I've had mine come around at 60mph power shifting 2-3.
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It doesn't to me, I've had mine come around at 60mph power shifting 2-3.
Really?? Guess i didn't drive mine long enough before the rim/tire upgrade haha. Had the AMR's on within 600 miles. Not to mention all the suspension upgrades i did at around 1200 miles.
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Really?? Guess i didn't drive mine long enough before the rim/tire upgrade haha. Had the AMR's on within 600 miles. Not to mention all the suspension upgrades i did at around 1200 miles.
Mine has never lost traction at that speed so your not the only one. My car was getting pretty decent traction with just the stock wheels and tires. My car ran a 13.21 bone stock on the first run with street tires. Was able to knock out a 12.99 with 19" 2013 gt500 replicas and nitto invos. Now I have ford racing LCA's and I rarely ever lose traction. I lost traction the other night getting onto the highway while it was raining. I was in 2nd gear with a slow *** bus in front of me and was trying to go around him.
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Really?? Guess i didn't drive mine long enough before the rim/tire upgrade haha. Had the AMR's on within 600 miles. Not to mention all the suspension upgrades i did at around 1200 miles.
There could have been a little sand on the road,idk it was winter time on a country road. Trust me, 360s in a new car is not fun, some how I kept it on the road.
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I've broken traction going from 2-3. I don't know how fast but it definitely got squirrelly on stock 235's. Road condition plays a big part in these circumstances.
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Breaking the tires loose at 50mph??!!!!!! Sounds a little exaggerated to me!!!! Even with stock width tires!!!! What are you other mods??!!
I have a SCT 93 race tune, LT Headers, Hi Flow Cats. Magnaflow comp series exhauste, lowered 1.25"
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I hope I'm not overdoing this tread . But hot a question!! I have a 2012 GT, I've had it lowered about 1.25 " in the rear!! When I'm driving about 50mphs and down shift and step on. It the rear rand squats down and it takes off like a rocket. But after it Squats , it takes off but than the tires break lose than the RPM's shoot up real quick!! I Do still have the stock LCA's on.. Would install new LCA's and relocating brackets help out wit traction?
Brackets will improve grip also wider tires.
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Thanks!! I knew wider tires would help, but wasnt sure about the LCA's and relocating brackets
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Thanks!! I knew wider tires would help, but wasnt sure about the LCA's and relocating brackets
Do tires 1st. For a noticeable increase in traction.
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Tires will help next I would work on your UCA. Here are some videos of a guy that showed the flaws of the stock UCA. The third link (UCA) is the heart of your rear end (lol, I said rear end).



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Dang, I only can chirp 3rd... Guess those performance mods really give it a huge kick to spin when you stomp it at 50...

Have you checked your tire pressure??
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Dang, I only can chirp 3rd... Guess those performance mods really give it a huge kick to spin when you stomp it at 50...

Have you checked your tire pressure??
Yes, I check them all the time plus I fill them with nitrogen so the pressure won't flex so much!!!
But thanks for all the help!!! I'll go with the wider tires first!! So, next question!! ( which I'm sure it's been ask a million times). What would be the best tire?
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Tires will help next I would work on your UCA. Here are some videos of a guy that showed the flaws of the stock UCA. The third link (UCA) is the heart of your rear end (lol, I said rear end).



Thanks for the videos. Helps me understand what's going on under there when getting on it!! So I guess it's UCA's also !! Thanks again!!
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Tires will help next I would work on your UCA. Here are some videos of a guy that showed the flaws of the stock UCA. The third link (UCA) is the heart of your rear end (lol, I said rear end).



Thanks for sharing the videos! I guess the UCA does more then I thought. How did you get those videos? What type/kind of camera did you use?
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I've broken traction going from 2-3. I don't know how fast but it definitely got squirrelly on stock 235's. Road condition plays a big part in these circumstances.
I live in Italy where the roads are half step down from Ice when it rains and I have to baby it or they spin no matter the gear
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Thanks for sharing the videos! I guess the UCA does more then I thought. How did you get those videos? What type/kind of camera did you use?
The next question would be... what UCA is best? Anyone run with 3rd Link Wheel Hop Reduction Kit for Mustang (2011-2014)

http://www.roushperformance.com/part....cwC6R4xr.dpuf

I like roush, but does it work in comparison to BMR or others with adjustment? I would love to hear feedback.
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Thanks for the videos. Helps me understand what's going on under there when getting on it!! So I guess it's UCA's also !! Thanks again!!
Here's my suggestion. This is what's under my baby. http://www.mustangevolution.com/foru....php?p=1662079 If you are gonna buy these parts, you might as well get them together and save a jack load of money. And save even more by taking advantage of their online coupon.

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Here's my suggestion. This is what's under my baby. http://www.mustangevolution.com/foru....php?p=1662079 If you are gonna buy these parts, you might as well get them together and save a jack load of money. And save even more by taking advantage of their online coupon.
Interesting!!! Sounds good!! But I don't have any wheel hop at all. From a dead stop or while moving and than flooring it!! Just no traction!!!
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Interesting!!! Sounds good!! But I don't have any wheel hop at all. From a dead stop or while moving and than flooring it!! Just no traction!!!
IMO wheel hop is cause of an inexperienced driver. I've been clutching gears ever since I was tall enough to reach the pedal. I've had my '11 GT over 3 years and I've never once made the rear wheels hop coming off the line. It's all in the clutching.
Shredding tires through the gears, now that's a completely different problem and tires are gonna be the best thing to remedy that.

I've heard a lot of good things about the nitto invos but one of the down sides is getting them to last for more then 20k miles.
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Somewhat of a sidetrack, but how much benefit would you see if you upgraded just the UCA and not the LCA's? Or is this something that you should do both at once and call it a day?
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Somewhat of a sidetrack, but how much benefit would you see if you upgraded just the UCA and not the LCA's? Or is this something that you should do both at once and call it a day?
That's a good question !! I would like to know also!! Anything that will help with traction!!!
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That's a good question !! I would like to know also!! Anything that will help with traction!!!
If I were only changing one, and not both, I'd go with the lowers. Lowers will eliminate 90% of your problem.
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I did lcas first and they greatly improved traction but I still get a little wheel hop but no where near as bad as before. So I ordered some ucas that are supposed to really eliminate the wheel hop when combined with the lcas . I should have done them both at the same time.
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If I were only changing one, and not both, I'd go with the lowers. Lowers will eliminate 90% of your problem.
This is an honest question but.... where did you here this? Have you experienced this yourself? LCA's operate more on a front to rear stress movement and not so much up and down. When moving up and down the primary piece involved is the UCA... now the rear joint in the LCA will move up and down while the body side is stationary. The biggest improvement to LCA's when comparing aftermarket to OEM are the bushings then of course the arm itself.
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I'm lowered on sportlines with BMR LCA's and relo brackets with factory UCA. I never had wheel hope before unless it was wet out. I'd spin like crazy though. Now it seems like the car just plants like its supposed to when I gas on it. Still plan on UCA in the future though.
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It doesn't to me, I've had mine come around at 60mph power shifting 2-3.
In cold weather with the P-Zero's I broke the back end loose in 4th at like 4000 RPM ... true story.

But, it WAS nearly freezing. But, I wasn't expecting it!
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