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Old 06-20-2013, 02:44 PM   #1
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Boss intake mani packages

I'm looking at getting the boss mani and I've noticed a few options (ebay mostly) when it comes to packages. I already have a CAI and tuner so the power pack isn't necessary.

Anyone ever had experience with high flow fuel rails? 90mm TB? Just wondering what a good companion will be.
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I'm looking at getting the boss mani and I've noticed a few options (ebay mostly) when it comes to packages. I already have a CAI and tuner so the power pack isn't necessary.

Anyone ever had experience with high flow fuel rails? 90mm TB? Just wondering what a good companion will be.
Fuel rails would be a waste of money, and so would larger injectors unless you want to use e85. A 90mm throttle body like the bbk will help a little, but arguably so for the price tag. You'd be better off just getting the boss mani and the adapter for you cold air with a revised tune. After that get headers or some suspension work.
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I'm looking at getting the boss mani and I've noticed a few options (ebay mostly) when it comes to packages. I already have a CAI and tuner so the power pack isn't necessary.

Anyone ever had experience with high flow fuel rails? 90mm TB? Just wondering what a good companion will be.
Do not waste money on the tb unless you are heads/cams. Or boost or nitrous.
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I've seen a few posts about the TB being a waste. And for me (N/A, no no2) I'm good with just the mani and the adapter. So for the amount I'm saving, it looks like I'll be picking up whiteline's panhard, brace, and LCA relos.

Any of you have any pointers on the mani? You like the high end Hp?
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I've seen a few posts about the TB being a waste. And for me (N/A, no no2) I'm good with just the mani and the adapter. So for the amount I'm saving, it looks like I'll be picking up whiteline's panhard, brace, and LCA relos.

Any of you have any pointers on the mani? You like the high end Hp?
The high end HP that comes with the boss mani is very nice from what a dyno shows.. You can use more aggressive timing on the down low for more grunt.
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I'm looking at getting the boss mani and I've noticed a few options (ebay mostly) when it comes to packages. I already have a CAI and tuner so the power pack isn't necessary.

Anyone ever had experience with high flow fuel rails? 90mm TB? Just wondering what a good companion will be.
I will have a Boss manifold for sale on July 12th for cheap. Get the tvs installed the 11 Th. Check classifieds for posting then
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I was looking at the same thing here!
I've notice the power packs come with some type of vacuum lines also, so what is needed to for the conversion?
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I'm looking at getting the boss mani and I've noticed a few options (ebay mostly) when it comes to packages. I already have a CAI and tuner so the power pack isn't necessary.

Anyone ever had experience with high flow fuel rails? 90mm TB? Just wondering what a good companion will be.
you referring to the ebay buy it now for the boss mani, bbk TB, and CAI for $850? I was tempted to get it but, my car only has 132 miles. Want to hit at least 2500 before I do any work to it.

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I will patiently be waiting for that post. There is someone on the mustang source forum who has one for $300.
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you referring to the ebay buy it now for the boss mani, bbk TB, and CAI for $850? I was tempted to get it but, my car only has 132 miles. Want to hit at least 2500 before I do any work to it.

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I will patiently be waiting for that post. There is someone on the mustang source forum who has one for $300.

Thats exactly the one I was referring too! There was also one a bit ago that included some high flow fuel rails. I mean, none of it is really necessary for N/A engines, from what I now understand.

I'll be checking out the classifieds too! Looks like I've got a little competition
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I'm looking at getting the boss mani and I've noticed a few options (ebay mostly) when it comes to packages. I already have a CAI and tuner so the power pack isn't necessary.

Anyone ever had experience with high flow fuel rails? 90mm TB? Just wondering what a good companion will be.
You're going to love the Boss Manifold! I went with a Boss Manifold, Ford Racing Throttle Body, JLT CAI, LT Headers and O/R X-pipe all at once. Needless to say, my car went from stock an absolute animal!

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I just switched over to a VMP tuning tvs. Only problem is i need 100 posts befire I can sell mine.It will come with the fuel rails,injectors and tb and all the black rubber insulation and a #635 plate on top. I'm also selling a steeda cai for the boss and the shock tower brace. Just be patient,I will try to get 100 posts asap.
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I would never buy a boss mani. I had a buddy who bought it and didn't see enough gains to justify the price or the hype that everyone makes it to be. I'm saving for the cobra jet mani. Looks a lot better and for a few hundred more it would be worth it just have to see what gains are posted on it etc
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I would never buy a boss mani. I had a buddy who bought it and didn't see enough gains to justify the price or the hype that everyone makes it to be. I'm saving for the cobra jet mani. Looks a lot better and for a few hundred more it would be worth it just have to see what gains are posted on it etc
if you don't bring your rev limiter to 7500+ its not worth it. mine is set at 7800
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if you don't bring your rev limiter to 7500+ its not worth it. mine is set at 7800
+1 this ***** kicks in at higher rpms.
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if you don't bring your rev limiter to 7500+ its not worth it. mine is set at 7800
True,......if you are not going to use it/beat it up a bit.......what's the point?
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I would agree about the cobra jet intake and the higher rpm it is made for but the gt cam's are not made for power over 7,000 rpm's so you lose low end power and won't get high rpm power so that is a mismatch of parts. smaller power band
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Well in that case I would wait til I decide to get cams to do that
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I would never buy a boss mani. I had a buddy who bought it and didn't see enough gains to justify the price or the hype that everyone makes it to be. I'm saving for the cobra jet mani. Looks a lot better and for a few hundred more it would be worth it just have to see what gains are posted on it etc
Wait, so you don't want a boss because you won't see gains, but you're going to get the FR cobra jet intake and expect some with normal driving? You still have to bring the RPMs up substantially. And I definitely feel more pull after 5k. So instead of listening to naysayers, I bought and CAN feel it.

By the way, the cobra jet is a "few hundred more", then there's the $700 throttle body you HAVE to buy. Oh and then there's my impatience haha.

But +1 on looks. The painted piano black CJ mani looks amazing.
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if you do not spin the boss intake to 7'600 + DO Not waste the money!!!!!! its that simple
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You also get more flow with the cobra throttle body. All in all its a nice package. I'm just not impressed with the boss mani in general my father has 12 boss and my car with just cat backs accelerates way quicker then his and has beat his with the track key. With the boss mani your going to have to get a bigger throttle body anyway to go with the aftermarket cai so either way your spending at least 1000 with either mani.
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if you don't bring your rev limiter to 7500+ its not worth it. mine is set at 7800
I have seen some dyno charts suggesting the benefits to be at high RPM's. Has anyone seen Dyno evaluation of a forced intake with and without the boss manifold?
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You would not need to change your cams, just your valve springs right? The cam can handle the RPM it is the stock valve set up that cannot....Right?
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You would not need to change your cams, just your valve springs right? The cam can handle the RPM it is the stock valve set up that cannot....Right?
You don't need cams but the valve springs aren't meant to handle the rpms. The boss exhaust cams are actually a better profile and the cams are relatively cheap. If I was doing the springs I would change out for the boss cams also while I was in there.
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You don't need cams but the valve springs aren't meant to handle the rpms. The boss exhaust cams are actually a better profile and the cams are relatively cheap. If I was doing the springs I would change out for the boss cams also while I was in there.
That is what I was thinking...I have delt with a few Boosted Stangs and we always changed the valve springs and rollers so they can handle more rpm...Thanks
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I have seen some dyno charts suggesting the benefits to be at high RPM's. Has anyone seen Dyno evaluation of a forced intake with and without the boss manifold?
Anything that creates a path of less restriction will have dramatic effect on a forced induction engine. I'd imaging a centrifugal set up like the vortech could easily make 650+rwhp on 9-11psi with a boss manifold. You could make 650+ without it but it would require more boost. Same could also be said with long tube headers and forced induction. The exhaust scavenging effect creates even more torque than usual because the exhaust has more compression coming out of the engine. Essentially when you have a supercharger, anything that's get air in or out faster will dramatically increase hp and torque. Even a throttle body would net decent gains provided it increased air volume.
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As I stated above the Boss 302 and Steeda Cold Air intake are for sale in the classifieds section. will sell them together for an even better deal..
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boss intake and 4.10 gears make a nice combo, no low end loss and its a beast, lots of high end fun
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boss intake and 4.10 gears make a nice combo, no low end loss and its a beast, lots of high end fun
What RPM range do you run hwy speeds? I am looking at 3.73 or 4.10's...
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What RPM range do you run hwy speeds? I am looking at 3.73 or 4.10's...
373.. 6th gear, 60 mph, 2k rpm
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373.. 6th gear, 60 mph, 2k rpm
Sounds right. I also think the 3.73s are fine with the Boss mani, buuuut I haven't driven a stang with the 4.10s and Boss mani.
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Have you thought about a 3.90, once I quit daily driving mine that's what going in it.
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You guys lost me. Sorry. Newbie here. What is the difference between 3.73 gears and 4.10?
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It's a ratio of how many times the driveshaft spins for every one revolution of the wheels. The higher the number the shorter the gear and the higher your engine rpms will be to drive the same speed as a longer (lower number) gear. Shorter gears will give a faster seat of the pants feel and get you into the power band faster and longer gears will give you slower acceleration but higher top speed
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It's a ratio of how many times the driveshaft spins for every one revolution of the wheels. The higher the number the shorter the gear and the higher your engine rpms will be to drive the same speed as a longer (lower number) gear. Shorter gears will give a faster seat of the pants feel and get you into the power band faster and longer gears will give you slower acceleration but higher top speed
Good explanation. Ok so if I were to get 3.73s. Is there anything else I could do to balance out the top speed lost and regain it?
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Good explanation. Ok so if I were to get 3.73s. Is there anything else I could do to balance out the top speed lost and regain it?
How often do you go 155+mph? I think you will be fine with 3.73...
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