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Old 06-20-2013, 10:16 PM   #1
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engine oil heating up

I track my 2013 GT exclusively and this past weekend at Road Atlanta, I noticed in my very first session on track that my engine oil was running curiously hot. The gauge I had on the center LCD screen was in the yellow. Oil was fresh, synthetic blend Mobil 1. It did this repeatedly for each of the subsequent 20 minute sessions both days. Is this a tendency of the 5.0 engine? I am on my 5th Mustang, but my first with the coyote engine. Just wondering if this is anything to be concerned about. Only mods to the engine are exhaust, CAI, and custom tune. Also have the adjustable Ford Racing suspension, but that shouldn't affect the engine oil temp.
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Just curious you have a track pack with the added oil cooler ???i know it is suppose to help with the oil condition when tracking your car. Keep it at lower temps. I haven't really tracked mine but a friend of mine does with a track pack setup and his has no problem
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No. No track pack. No dealerships carried it in stock. Wasn't sure at the time how necessary it was. Any suggestions on a brand to add one? Does the 5.0L have a tendency to run hot like this?
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No. No track pack. No dealerships carried it in stock. Wasn't sure at the time how necessary it was. Any suggestions on a brand to add one? Does the 5.0L have a tendency to run hot like this?
I'm not sure about the 5.0L, but my BMW 135i runs 200-220 city/highway and about 240-260 when ran hard. That's normal for those.

I'm not sure if there's a better system, but here's the FRPP Boss 302 Oil Cooler. (2012-2013 BOSS 302 OIL COOLER KIT | Part Details for M-6642-MBA* | Ford Racing Performance Parts)
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I have a GT with the Boss Oil Cooler. I ran at Sebring last January and had the Gauge in the yellow, IMO it never posses any problem the car was running %100 every session. These cars are pretty smart if anything gets too hot the car will reduce its power output dramatically and you will feel it. But if you are running the car on the track especially in the summer I would upgrade to an Oil cooler, air to oil preferably.
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Step up to a good (not Mobil1 ) 10w-30 and you'll see a difference.
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I have the boss oil cooler and its very simple to instal and oil does stay cooler, but doesnt the track pack have it already?

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I'm not sure about the 5.0L, but my BMW 135i runs 200-220 city/highway and about 240-260 when ran hard. That's normal for those.

I'm not sure if there's a better system, but here's the FRPP Boss 302 Oil Cooler. (2012-2013 BOSS 302 OIL COOLER KIT | Part Details for M-6642-MBA* | Ford Racing Performance Parts)
I just saw that you dont have track pack, but yeah the boss oil cooler works great
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Id go ahead and add the boss oil cooler and run a better oil as stated, should definitely keep the temps down.
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Typically I run Pennzoil full synthetic. 5W-30. Does running a 10 weight make that much of a difference? Any recommendations for an oil brand that may help keep things cooler? I certainly will look at the engine oil cooler. As to the BMW comparison, my gauges do not list the temperature itself. Just the color gauge so I'm not sure the specific temps I'm running. I really appreciate all of the feedback and recommendations.
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Its best to use the recommended oil and definitely stay synthetic, among other reasons, it has a higher temperature tolerance.
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Typically I run Pennzoil full synthetic. 5W-30. Does running a 10 weight make that much of a difference? Any recommendations for an oil brand that may help keep things cooler? I certainly will look at the engine oil cooler. As to the BMW comparison, my gauges do not list the temperature itself. Just the color gauge so I'm not sure the specific temps I'm running. I really appreciate all of the feedback and recommendations.
Pennzoil full synthetic is pretty good. I prefer Amsoil SS but it's more expensive than most out there. Here's a good read.
What is the BEST oil to use? - Page 2 - Shelby GT, GT-H Modifications and Tech. - Team Shelby - Page 2
Amsoil Signature series 10w30 - SVTPerformance
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Its best to use the recommended oil and definitely stay synthetic, among other reasons, it has a higher temperature tolerance.


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Here is a good read also.
Official GT 5.0/Boss 302 UOA thread - SVTPerformance
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Stick with the 5W 20 if that's what's recommended. Royal Purple is good .
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Stick with the 5W 20 if that's what's recommended.
Please state why?
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My GT just has the Brembo package, but I have a small radiator in front of my regular radiator. Is that an oil cooler?

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Nevermind. AC condenser.
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Stick with the 5W 20 if that's what's recommended. Royal Purple is good .
Royal purple is good. But in all honesty you are paying for there name and thats it. Amsoil is a real good oil to go with.
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Please state why?
If you run thicker than recommended your engine won't be protected at start up with cold oil. I've actually heard of some cars running thicker oil & they void the warranty.
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So, based on the feedback I've seen, running a better oil more suited for exclusive track use may help in the short term. Sounds like there are fans of various brands but based on the used oil analysis in the article links provided, all in the category required are roughly the same. Amsoil and Royal Purple are the most frequently used. Any idea of what would be the best filter to use for a road course, time trial competition exclusive vehicle? I am in Charlotte NC and the tracks we see in NASA-SE only go as far north as VIR and south to Roebling Road so the cold is rarely a factor. I just don't want to cause any damage to my engine by missing the simple stuff like appropriate oil and filter.
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If you run thicker than recommended your engine won't be protected at start up with cold oil. I've actually heard of some cars running thicker oil & they void the warranty.
Bull crap. Then why do the track pack cars with the same motors spec 5w-50?
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Take a look at the k&n oil filters, they even have re-usable oil filters. I use one on my bike and i like it, its not the re-usable but it has a nut that makes it extremely easy to remove. they make great air filters, i imagine they do the same with oil filters especially for the track.
Now the reason i said to use the recommended synthetic oil is that it is very resistant to loosing viscosity when heated (and over time) thats the beauty of synthetics - also its stickier. So if u get a thicker oil expecting it to thin out like non synthetics then you will only be damaging your engine. Realize your engines tolerances were set around a specific oil viscosity. Now, as your engine gets older and parts wear out, thicker oils may be required. With synthetics you can even get away with thinner oils with out increasing wear, obviously you want more protection. Also with thicker oils you will see a decrease in MPGs and HP. Go ahead and test it yourself, try some thicker oil, you'll see.
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Realize your engines tolerances were set around a specific oil viscosity.
Wrong. 5w-20 is for cafe' standards only. Nothing more. There are plenty of us running 10w-30.
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Bull crap. Then why do the track pack cars with the same motors spec 5w-50?
To each his own dude ! LMAO
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To each his own dude ! LMAO
Just as I thought, no actual technical information to back up any claims.
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Just as I thought, no actual technical information to back up any claims.
You're right, we get it, no need to act like this about it.
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Ur two usernames and all that are too similar. Lol. Which one is the real gb5.0?
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Ur two usernames and all that are too similar. Lol. Which one is the real gb5.0?
The one with 5k+ post
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Definitely!
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