Ok guy I used the search bar looked through everything nothing helpful... I was wondering whats the major differences between long tubes and shortys is the power gain more with long tubes if so how much
The stock headers on the mustang are very efficient tri-y design and flow pretty well, because of this, shorties really don't do anything for your car, you won't likely see any power gains. LT's on the other hand give a better, deeper, more crisp tone. They're a bit more expensive and most people don't believe the money/work involved in installing them, is worth it. But I have mine and I love them and of do it again
Ok so here is what I have exhaust wise give me your opinion I have a bbk after cat xpipe and slp loud mouth axle back if I go with long tubes I will have to get a different x/h pipe right? And where the slp is just a muffler delete how loud is this going to be I track my car alot but I also drive it from time to time have a work car but this is my weekend car
You'll need to buy a shorty mid pipe. For instance if you bought the BBK Ceramic Coated Long Tubes, you'll need to add on the BBK Shorty O/R or Catted mid pipe.
The JPC headers replace your stock manifolds and your cats. And it will mount directly to your factory H pipe, essentially giving you a off road H. If you wanted a different H pipe, you would just shop for a after cat H. Heartthrob, JBA, MAC, Mbrp, and MRT make one. With the Heartthrob cat to axle pipes, you can get them with a HPipe. It would go from the collectors of the JPC Headers all the way back, keeping your Axle backs Modular, deleting your resonators and its mandrel bent piping. For $379.99
Call nick at jdm engineering he will answer your questions and get you hooked up. He was very helpful. I have kooks LT and o/r x. It was a noticeable increase in power.
I'm running sw LT's and offroad x with FRPP sports which are essentially rebranded s types, it sounds pretty good and is very loud at wot and quiet at idle, can't speak for muffler deletes but I can't imagine the tone will be all that great, it'll be more like a noise dump than a musical tone that your v8 should be
OP, If your looking to get power HP and torque gains the choice is simple. GO WITH LONG TUBE HEADERS. There amazing with the sound and power gains are great. If you want no power gains and a shinny header that looks better than your stock manifold, buy the shortly header. Waste of money for the shortly in my opinion. I have the ceramic BBK long tube headers with o/r x pipe and real happy with them. Big difference in power.
Gains are good with LT's, but I wouldn't consider it great, on the coyote 5.0, you're lucky to get 15 hp from JUST LT's. now going catless is where the real power is
Kooks new super street shortys have 1/78th primaries and 3" collectors that bolt right up to your cats. Jdm performance installed them on a n/a 5.0 with a high flow h pipe and peaked 25 hp in testing. When i bought a set from them i told them i have a bassani 3 inch true x pipe they said i will see even more. My car is supercharged and these headers make some power. They are not as loud as long tubes, but louder then the stock units. Take a look here to see how they outperform the stock headers:
like I said before I have LT's and orxp with gt500's zero rasp, loud, and deep rumble, would love to do a muffler delete to shed weight, but I would rather carry the 30lbs then have rasp
The stock mufflers weigh 30lbs as well no biggy, they sound good...i have an extra drivers side gt-500 muffler in storage. A lady hit my passenger side 6 months ago and the replacement came in a box of 2 so i have a spare still the box, i don't know what to do with. ..lol
Just to let you guys know the gt500 mufflers weigh in at about 22lbs a piece, so if you can take 44lbs off your car and add muffler deletes which probably weigh in at ? maybe 10lbs a piece? maybe 5? anyway taking 30 lbs off your car is always good, does anyone have the slp loudmouths muffler deletes and how many lbs they are?, sound? raspy?
Yes thats what I have slp deletes guessing prolly 12 to 14 lbs total weight for both a lil bit of drone not that raspy imo sounds good I have a bbk after cat x pipe I want long tubes but im afraid it will be to loud with no cats
Eeeesh got the roush ab's and love them I just wish I would have gone with gt500's now that I'm looking for let's and off road x in the near future..
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