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Old 08-07-2013, 12:52 PM   #1
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Are the 5.0 engines that come in the F-150's the exact same as the one in the Mustang gt's?

Reason I'm asking is because we got a 2011 F-150 with a 5.0 in our shop that's gonna need a new set of pistons. The guy might buy a whole new engine for it & I wanna rebuild the old engine if he decides not to keep it & do a swap for my 09.
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Are the 5.0 engines that come in the F-150's the exact same as the one in the Mustang gt's?

Reason I'm asking is because we got a 2011 F-150 with a 5.0 in our shop that's gonna need a new set of pistons. The guy might buy a whole new engine for it & I wanna rebuild the old engine if he decides not to keep it & do a swap for my 09.
I think there's a few differences because its rated less HP, I do think most trimmings are interchangeable though
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Are the 5.0 engines that come in the F-150's the exact same as the one in the Mustang gt's?

Reason I'm asking is because we got a 2011 F-150 with a 5.0 in our shop that's gonna need a new set of pistons. The guy might buy a whole new engine for it & I wanna rebuild the old engine if he decides not to keep it & do a swap for my 09.
No it's not the same engine. Truck engines are down tuned. The trucks only make like 360hp. I'm pretty sure it's in the pistons and cams and most likely different heads.
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No it's not the same engine. Truck engines are down tuned. The trucks only make like 360hp. I'm pretty sure it's in the pistons and cams and most likely different heads.
Thats a bummer.
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Wouldn't be a direct swap anyway lol would end up costing you over 10k just to get engine in car lol
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Wouldn't be a direct swap anyway lol would end up costing you over 10k just to get engine in car lol
10k? How?
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10k? How?
Idk either? Your Trans will bolt up with a QuickTime bell housing and you'd need the ECU and a couple harnesses from the 5.0 with a dyno tune.
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Idk either? Your Trans will bolt up with a QuickTime bell housing and you'd need the ECU and a couple harnesses from the 5.0 with a dyno tune.
Yea I know I would have to get a engine harness & I'm not to sure if the engine will just drop in with no problems but Ive seen this 08 mustang on YouTube do a coyote engine swap & it looks like it fits perfectly. You can look up "Matt Da Silva mustang" his is running 10.8 all motor.
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What happened to the F150 motor to need a rebuild?...
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Rebuild motor mounts ecu and will the drivetrain handle 5.0 ethir way cheaper trading it in lol
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Closer to 5k. Just do it!
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Still has to rebuild that motor ad buy it lol sounds like money lol have fun
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What happened to the F150 motor to need a rebuild?...
Overheated it pretty bad, low compression.

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Rebuild motor mounts ecu and will the drivetrain handle 5.0 ethir way cheaper trading it in lol
Yea alot of stuff for a swap & I wouldn't want to do a trade, I'm not a fan of the new body style.

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Still has to rebuild that motor ad buy it lol sounds like money lol have fun
Hopefully I can get the engine for free if the company decides to buy a new engine. The truck belongs to a big oilfield company & usually every company just trash's all the old parts they replace & I doubt the company would want to keep a broke engine lol
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Hopefully I can get the engine for free if the company decides to buy a new engine.

They may make you pay the core charge. Surely they will have to either turn in the old engine or pay a core charge.
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I've never checked the specs on the f-150 engine but I cannot imaging they have the same 11.0:1 compression pistons. While the bolt pattern on the heads may be the same I don't think they're machined the same as the GT.

By no means am I giving you known information but I would definitely look into these things further
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I would think that aside from them both being a 5.0 V8 there's not much else similar. The truck engine has to be machined and built to last and stand up to towing and stuff like that where as a mustang engine is made for power and performance and the average mustang driver doesn't drive their car for 200k+ miles where as F150 drivers routinely drive for 100-200k miles that I have seen.
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Normall truck engines are built for more low end power, pulling, different cams pistons, likely has a lower red line.
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I think I'm gonna wait on it, my 4.6 is doing the job right now lol
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I think I'm gonna wait on it, my 4.6 is doing the job right now lol
NO! Go for it, that would be a great swap to do. The F150 has different cams and pistons as they runs a 10.5:1, obviously different tune. Aside from that.It is essentially the same engine 5.0 with slightly different components DO IT!
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I think I'm gonna wait on it, my 4.6 is doing the job right now lol
The 4.6 is no slouch, just build what you have. Mine would pull the wheels, I have a ways to go with the 5.0 before it will.
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The 4.6 is no slouch, just build what you have. Mine would pull the wheels, I have a ways to go with the 5.0 before it will.
I agree the 4.6 isn't a crappy slow motor! It makes decent power and has alot of potential!
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I agree the 4.6 isn't a crappy slow motor! It makes decent power and has alot of potential!
That's true but it takes deep pockets to reach it
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That's true but it takes deep pockets to reach it
That is also true, giving it the full ford racing treatment ain't cheap!
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NO! Go for it, that would be a great swap to do. The F150 has different cams and pistons as they runs a 10.5:1, obviously different tune. Aside from that.It is essentially the same engine 5.0 with slightly different components DO IT!
We'll see man, this company still haven't decided what they're gonna do. For now my 4.6 is running pretty strong now that I added some laughing gas!
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