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Old 08-08-2013, 06:04 PM   #36
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Traded my 2012 v6 pp car in after only having it for one year exactly. FOR A REASON! The learn down (adaptive learning) is WAY worse on the v6 than the v8
The premium cars have MY KEY which can limit all kids of things rpm, speed, radio volume ect. Wouldn't surprise me if when on a test drive the salesman gave you the "TURD" key.
This is what my sales man looked like!
Not sure why there's no sound? Wtf?
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The premium cars have MY KEY which can limit all kids of things rpm, speed, radio volume ect. Wouldn't surprise me if when on a test drive the salesman gave you the "TURD" key.
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My friend had MyKey on his 2012 Shelby GT500, you could set speed limits, max radio volumes and things but not power output up to whatever speed it was set at. I think his was 80. So if he were to give someone the "turd" key they would have full power up until 80 or whatever.
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Ish is right, it's a speed limiter only not a rev limiter. I'd love that if it was, no worries about leaving at a shop for work or whatever. 3000 rpm is all they'd need.
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My 5.0 lit the tires up during the test drive NO sluggishness here!!!
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My 5.0 lit the tires up during the test drive NO sluggishness here!!!
The automatic in the 5.0 or 3.7 definitely needs a performance tuner. That auto 5.0 felt slower and way less responsive than my modded v6. Of course I'm running 0-60 in around 4.6 to 4.8 seconds and that's on a car for under 26k with mods.
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Alot of jealous 3.7 owners me thinks alot of puting the 5.0 down come step up I live in Illinois my 5.0 works well
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Alot of jealous 3.7 owners me thinks alot of puting the 5.0 down come step up I live in Illinois my 5.0 works well
5.0's are awesome just unfortunate that some on test drives are not all up to par and leave us modded V6 guys scratching our heads. A 5.0 stock compared to a stock 3.7 is no where in the park and 5.0 crushes it. A stock 5.0 with 3:73 gears compared to driving a modded 3.7 and your talking 2 to 3 tenths second difference and around 5 to 6 tenths difference in the 1/4 mile. That time gap is closing when you begin to mod your 3.7 and the stock 5.0 doesn't seem that much faster and the thrill factor is less than what many of us sixers were expecting.

If your drive a stock v6 with 2:73 gears and then drive a stock 5.0 with 3:15 gears then the 5.0 is gonna feel like a rocket. Drive a modded v6 and that same stock 5.0 becomes much slower.
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That sucks frankly, if 5.1 was your best on a 3.73 MT car. I got my loaded 3.73 car first time out on cold pavement in February, 4.5 seconds, done and dusted. When it warmed up and I ditched the crap factory upper for the Roush piece to tame the ridiculous wheel hop, low 4s every time, for what its worth.

It took a shop-sponsored 3.7 with a big Procharger to run with my stock GT + Procal at the track. It was pretty much fender racing, every time, even though he eventually got the car trapping at ~118. Why the heck you wouldn't just buy a GT and be done, if you're going to shovel money like that at the V6, is beyond me.
yup I agree but me n some buddies are making my car a project car-about to build the motor. we also have a 5.0 we are working on. it only has full boltons-no FI but it just for fun man.
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Il take the 5.0 with 3.15 gears over a 3.7 anyway just the sound alone would make me lol
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Il take the 5.0 with 3.15 gears over a 3.7 anyway just the sound alone would make me lol
Lol. 5.0 does sound great.
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5.0's are awesome just unfortunate that some on test drives are not all up to par and leave us modded V6 guys scratching our heads. A 5.0 stock compared to a stock 3.7 is no where in the park and 5.0 crushes it. A stock 5.0 with 3:73 gears compared to driving a modded 3.7 and your talking 2 to 3 tenths second difference and around 5 to 6 tenths difference in the 1/4 mile. That time gap is closing when you begin to mod your 3.7 and the stock 5.0 doesn't seem that much faster and the thrill factor is less than what many of us sixers were expecting.

If your drive a stock v6 with 2:73 gears and then drive a stock 5.0 with 3:15 gears then the 5.0 is gonna feel like a rocket. Drive a modded v6 and that same stock 5.0 becomes much slower.
Idk about that? My 2012 v6 was modded. Almost full bolted with 3.73's. it did NOT feel as strong as my 2013 base 5.0 with 3.31's. both are/were manuals
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Idk about that? My 2012 v6 was modded. Almost full bolted with 3.73's. it did NOT feel as strong as my 2013 base 5.0 with 3.31's. both are/were manuals
What mods did you have for your v6?
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They say there's a small break in period but the car doesn't hit its stride until about 5000 miles.
I never heard that. I was told by the dealer with todays technology there is really no benefit to a break in. Just like you do not need to let the car warm up any more before driving it. However mine has 500 normal driving no so aggressive miles on it well, with the exception of one WRX a$$ whooping of a 1/4 mile.
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I cant help but laugh at 6 banger stangs sometimes...its just not the same. I'd never buy a 6 cylinder sports car. Not an American made sports car anyways. To me it's kinda like people that put a 6" lift and huge tires on a 2 wheel drive truck. What's the point? Lol
There ALMOST as BAD as someone spending the extra $6,000 and buying a GT Base Model, when they could have had a nicely loaded V6.
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I first test drove a 13 GT Premium w/3.15 gears and was not impressed. It maybe was slightly faster than my lightly modded 3.7 w/3.31 gears, maaaaybe a tad faster. The salesman realized a was hoping for a big performance gain and was very disappointed with the GT thst I just drove. He suggested that I try one with the track package, so we did, 2014 GT Track Pack, seemed like it was TWICE as fast as my 3.7. Not even close.

The first GT in no way was making 420 HP.
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There ALMOST as BAD as someone spending the extra $6,000 and buying a GT Base Model, when they could have had a nicely loaded V6.
It would ALMOST be as BAD, but they clearly got the only option they cared about. Some probably feel the extra 2 cylinders, and all that goes with it, is a more worthy option than the ability to change interior light colors and the pleather seats. My interior is always set to red and my pleather is stone btw.

Is the difference in price between a loaded v6 and a base gt really 6k? When your using the term loaded, it better have everything btw. Nav, whatever fancy spoiler package that happens to be available, shaker 1000, etc.. start checking all the boxes that adds up as awful quickly.
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I'm one that chose the base 5.0 because I knew if I put equal value of aftermarket parts on a loaded 3.7 or 5.0 I would turn out better with the latter. I'm not one that needed the pleather, the interior lights, the premium wheels that I would replace anyway, or the sound system/radio/nav that I would essentially upgrade to exactly what I want. I strictly wanted to start off better performance wise than luxury wise. It's about what shoe fits what person.

But these sluggish 5.0 issues. Is this just an auto trans issue, or is this happening to manuals too?
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I'm one that chose the base 5.0 because I knew if I put equal value of aftermarket parts on a loaded 3.7 or 5.0 I would turn out better with the latter. I'm not one that needed the pleather, the interior lights, the premium wheels that I would replace anyway, or the sound system/radio/nav that I would essentially upgrade to exactly what I want. I strictly wanted to start off better performance wise than luxury wise. It's about what shoe fits what person.

But these sluggish 5.0 issues. Is this just an auto trans issue, or is this happening to manuals too?
Putting equal mods in the 3.7 and the 5.0, the 5.0 is gonna murder the 3.7 on performance as stock 5.0 compared to stock 3.7 would too. For me , I would of loved the 5.0 and all that power it had to offer, but that extra power and performance comes at a price. A price tag that is 7k plus more for a base 5.0 compared to a base 3.7. I love the 5.0 but for me didn't love it enough to pay that extra 7500k for a bare bones, base , no extra 5.0. As much as I liked the power of the 5.0 there was no way I was paying 7500k more for the same looking car with not one electronic and creature comfort goodie. The base 5.0 has the same exact interior as the 3.7 does, right down to the cloth and manual seats.

For 7500k more I better be getting more than just a 100 HP car and some suspension upgrades. It doesn't cost that much more to install and produce a 5.0 engine compared to install and produce that new 3.7 engine. For me, I better be getting , leather seats, power seats, back up camera, sync system, Navigation system along with 5.0 engine for 7500k more. The base 18 wheels on the 5.0 are really hideous and the base wheels on the 3.7 are much nicer looking.

In the end, would I love a 5.0, heck yeah but at the price Ford is charging for it. I would rather just spend 3k in performance mods for my 3.7 and be done with it.
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What mods did you have for your v6?
2012 v6 mt-82 base with PP. eibach springs, koni shocks/struts, 20in wheels, 3.73 gears, jlt cai, o/r x pipe, bbk tb, Pipes ab's, gt brake take offs with slotted/drilled rotors,gt sways, hurts st, upr lower ca's with a bama 93R tune.. Even with all that my v6 didn't make the TQ that my 2013 GT does
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2012 v6 mt-82 base with PP. eibach springs, koni shocks/struts, 20in wheels, 3.73 gears, jlt cai, o/r x pipe, bbk tb, Pipes ab's, gt brake take offs with slotted/drilled rotors,gt sways, hurts st, upr lower ca's with a bama 93R tune.. Even with all that my v6 didn't make the TQ that my 2013 GT does
With all those power mods your 3.7 had, it should of been able to keep right with a base auto 5.0 with 3:15 gears.
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How did this thread turn into a 3.7 vs 5.0 thread? They are both great cars, everyone has their reason for getting what they got. No need to explain that to others. The 3.7 and 5.0 really are a steal of a deal. Some GT owners need to realize though that this new V6 isn't the old V6. It has 74% of the horsepower of the 5.0, yes, 74%. It can run high 13s stock, and can run 12's N/A. That is nothing to laugh about, especially for a 6-cylinder mustang. They both are excellent cars.
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How did this thread turn into a 3.7 vs 5.0 thread? They are both great cars, everyone has their reason for getting what they got. No need to explain that to others. The 3.7 and 5.0 really are a steal of a deal. Some GT owners need to realize though that this new V6 isn't the old V6. It has 74% of the horsepower of the 5.0, yes, 74%. It can run high 13s stock, and can run 12's N/A. That is nothing to laugh about, especially for a 6-cylinder mustang. They both are excellent cars.
I believe it started when ish416 said, the 5.0s are turds and his 6 banger is faster! But don't quote me.lol
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How did this thread turn into a 3.7 vs 5.0 thread?
Because a LOT of V6 owners have come this GT thread and are making some pretty "bold" statements about the 5.0 being a "turd" ???
Not real hard to figure out.
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Because a LOT of V6 owners have come this GT thread and are making some pretty "bold" statements about the 5.0 being a "turd" ???
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2012 v6 mt-82 base with PP. eibach springs, koni shocks/struts, 20in wheels, 3.73 gears, jlt cai, o/r x pipe, bbk tb, Pipes ab's, gt brake take offs with slotted/drilled rotors,gt sways, hurts st, upr lower ca's with a bama 93R tune.. Even with all that my v6 didn't make the TQ that my 2013 GT does
Also my mpg was 29 stock on my v6. It went to 31 when I first added the tune and cai. But dropped back down to 28-29 when I added the gears(3.73). My GT got 26 mpg stock. Rite now I'm getting about 28 mpg with a tune, cai, and cat deletes. This is highway mpg. City was rite at 20 with the v6 and 16 with my gt.
My GT makes 400hp and 383tq on a cold air, cat deletes, and tune. Gets 28mpg highway. To get a v6 to make 400whp your going to be spending BIG $$! I have about 600$ in motor mods and tune.
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Also my mpg was 29 stock on my v6. It went to 31 when I first added the tune and cai. But dropped back down to 28-29 when I added the gears(3.73). My GT got 26 mpg stock. Rite now I'm getting about 28 mpg with a tune, cai, and cat deletes. This is highway mpg. City was rite at 20 with the v6 and 16 with my gt.
My GT makes 400hp and 383tq on a cold air, cat deletes, and tune. Gets 28mpg highway. To get a v6 to make 400whp your going to be spending BIG $$! I have about 600$ in motor mods and tune.
Totally agree on that! Unless one is gonna spend 5200k plus on a supercharger then the 3.7 ain't gonna see 400 HP and 383 tq to the wheels which by the way I'm not spending. Lol. 5200k for a small device that shoves more air down an engine. Heck no. Lmao. For that price I would just buy the base 5.0.
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I love the 5.0's. if I could have afforded one, a NICE one, I would have bought it. But I decided to stay within my budget and and get a nice V6. The leather seats Bluetooth all that nice stuff. But eventually Ill get a 5.0. I just love smoking challengers with hemi's they get so pissed when they find out I'm in a v6 haha. Satisfaction.
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I love the 5.0's. if I could have afforded one, a NICE one, I would have bought it. But I decided to stay within my budget and and get a nice V6. The leather seats Bluetooth all that nice stuff. But eventually Ill get a 5.0. I just love smoking challengers with hemi's they get so pissed when they find out I'm in a v6 haha. Satisfaction.
Ain't that the truth. Lets not forget about smoking those SS Camaro's in our sixers. Lol
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I love the 5.0's. if I could have afforded one, a NICE one, I would have bought it. But I decided to stay within my budget and and get a nice V6. The leather seats Bluetooth all that nice stuff. But eventually Ill get a 5.0. I just love smoking challengers with hemi's they get so pissed when they find out I'm in a v6 haha. Satisfaction.


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Ya I slapped on a sc and make 570 ish at tires same mod on v6 only gets you to stock 5.0 numbers so guess just preference brh are good cars but I would beat my car any 5.0 any I repeated that stock for stock will eat a v6 I dnt care what gears
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I don't care what the V6 costs. I wanted a new car the way I wanted it and would pay the price for that, full stop. I wanted a loaded GT because that was as much power as I could afford, with the options I insisted on. The B302 was cool but the premium was too high and the available options too low for 2012. If I could afford a a GT500 around where I am, I'd be considering another calibre of vehicle quality.

I basically slapped slicks on the thing and its banging on the door of 11s with both fists. I intend to break the door down this year and have some hope of doing so, if the stars align.
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I believe it started when ish416 said, the 5.0s are turds and his 6 banger is faster! But don't quote me.lol
I just quoted you because none of that is true.

I actually find it rather amusing, considering I haven't even taken delivery of my Mustang yet. At what point do I ever mention that all 5.0s are turds? Since several people on this site seem to lack any form of reading comprehension, I will make this easy. It was never said, at least not by myself.

I said that when I was test driving cars, I drove 3 GT's with the track package, all being 6 spd cars. Two of them were very slow (turds) while the 3rd GT was damn impressive. All cars had similar mileage (500 - 800 miles). I drove one of these track pack GT's before driving a performance pack V6, 6 spd that was honestly quite a bit faster than that specific GT.

So, because I mention that two of the three cars I drove had some issue or feature with the cars not making the power they should, that automatically means all 5.0's are turds? Seriously? That is quite pathetic.

I posted in this thread because I thought someone on here might know of some reason as to why two of the three cars were significantly slower than the third car. I thought that maybe whatever reason was slowing the OP's car down was also the same reason that these cars were slow. I figured it was some sort of break-in tune that might allow a certain max throttle position (like 60% or 80%) until some criteria is met. However, that doesn't seem to be the case as most 5.0 owners claim the car was a beast straight off the dealers lot.

I was simply trying to get some insight as to what would cause this lack of power on two of the three 5.0's I test drove. However, it seems that some people aren't reading what I am typing and only reading that all 5.0s are turds, V6 Mustangs are faster than V8's and that since I own an inferior but typically faster Z28 I am trolling. All of which is completely incorrect.
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