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Old 09-09-2013, 12:22 AM   #36
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Until you shift again. If you're racing and always above 5k rpms something's messed up.
Your not going to go from redline to 2k rpm in one shift. From a 7500 redline you probably won't even drop to 5k after you shift.
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I did some looking on AM's site and...well, if it were me and I had 8k to drop on power mods, I think I'd be getting the 624 Ford Racing kit. Seems complete, it's a twin screw design (I'd think that I'd want a bit more low-end torque than a centri would give me).

Ford Racing 624HP Mustang Supercharger Kit - Black Wrinkle Finish (2011-2014 GT Manual) M-6066-MGT624D

Again, as guys have already said: consider the application. For street usage, a centri is probably more than fine for any kid that is dumb enough to rev at you at a light. I'd choose this one for a combination of daily driving fun plus occasional strip use with slicks. I have heard and witnessed what a paxton NOVI system can do in a FOX; holy hell. I can hardly imagine what a newer NOVI could do in a coyote....

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/pro...FY9AMgod7hAAQw

...then again, go big or go home, right? The hellion twin turbo setup isn't THAT much more, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you'll need to build the bottom end up a little.

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For track usage, I'd go with something with a good midrange that isn't gonna raise temps too much. A centri might be a good idea for that.
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The way I see it is turbo shine the most for top speed run or on 1/4 miles, centri are best for track (road course) use or anywhere heat is a problem and roush/ whipple are good for DD and around town fun and fast driving.
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One nice thing about the FRPP 624 is optional Whipple powertrain warranty (if a concern)
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Last I checked there is no warranty with the624 kit, at least there wasn't one available 2 years ago. There is only one available for the 525 kit.
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I thought that they added an optional warranty for the 624. their wording is kinda weird though.
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I did some looking on AM's site and...well, if it were me and I had 8k to drop on power mods, I think I'd be getting the 624 Ford Racing kit. Seems complete, it's a twin screw design (I'd think that I'd want a bit more low-end torque than a centri would give me).

Ford Racing 624HP Mustang Supercharger Kit - Black Wrinkle Finish (2011-2014 GT Manual) M-6066-MGT624D

Again, as guys have already said: consider the application. For street usage, a centri is probably more than fine for any kid that is dumb enough to rev at you at a light. I'd choose this one for a combination of daily driving fun plus occasional strip use with slicks. I have heard and witnessed what a paxton NOVI system can do in a FOX; holy hell. I can hardly imagine what a newer NOVI could do in a coyote....

http://www.stage3motorsports.com/pro...FY9AMgod7hAAQw

...then again, go big or go home, right? The hellion twin turbo setup isn't THAT much more, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you'll need to build the bottom end up a little.

Mustang Hellion Twin Turbo - Complete Kit (11-14 GT) 11-14 GT Twin Turbo Kit

For track usage, I'd go with something with a good midrange that isn't gonna raise temps too much. A centri might be a good idea for that.
What are some of the risks of going with the twin turbo kit?
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What are some of the risks of going with the twin turbo kit?
this is a pretty big risk :p
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this is a pretty big risk :p
Lmao that's hysterical. I guess install would be a drawback. Plenty ofpeople had done it don't get me wrong but it's not as "straight forward" as a blower. Little more modding is involvedfrom what I read.
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this is a pretty big risk :p
That's what I want my boss to look like :'(
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I had a conversation with my local Speedlab on a good supercharger setup for the track. They prefer the whipple over the roush and say that with centris and turbos, boost falloff is a hassle out of turns.
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Well, I can see it being something of an issue with boost being low after a turn....then again, turbo cars usually require a bit of managing to keep them in a usable powerband (I assume that centi's are similar). It's all about managing that spool.

When I finally get around to strapping on a blower, I'd probably do the NOVI 2200 and call it a day.
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Build it for what you are going to use it for. In a road course I prefer I built NA car with a sick suspension setup
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Build it for what you are going to use it for. In a road course I prefer I built NA car with a sick suspension setup
What he means to say is....

Twin turbos and two fat chicks in the back
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What he means to say is....

Twin turbos and two fat chicks in the back
Lol, that'll keep that azz end planted.
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this is a pretty big risk :p
Good one. That looks sweet.
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Last I checked there is no warranty with the624 kit, at least there wasn't one available 2 years ago. There is only one available for the 525 kit.
I've got the the 624 ffrp kit on a 5.0 13...full warranty...but I know the dealer!!! I have had many different blowers and I will stand next to the ffrp all day...
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I've got the the 624 ffrp kit on a 5.0 13...full warranty...but I know the dealer!!! I have had many different blowers and I will stand next to the ffrp all day...
What does your car put down with the ford tune though? A little over 5?
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What does your car put down with the ford tune though? A little over 5?
That's sad if it's only 500. If/ when I build mine, I'm going for 500 RWHP NA
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That's sad if it's only 500. If/ when I build mine, in going for 500 RWHP NA
Not everyone wants a full blown race car.
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Not everyone wants a full blown race car.
They don't?! What's the world coming to? first world problems

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And 500 NA will be cheaper than having that frpp installed
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That's sad if it's only 500. If/ when I build mine, I'm going for 500 RWHP NA
Heads/longtubes/cams and e85 is all you need
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Heads/longtubes/cams and e85 is all you need
I'm not going e85
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I'm not going e85
Well u can still hit 500 without it. You will just get over 5 with it
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Well u can still hit 500 without it. You will just get over 5 with it
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Heads/longtubes/cams and e85 is all you need
You talking new heads, or having the stockers rebuilt.
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You talking new heads, or having the stockers rebuilt.
Just port/polish the stock heads.

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Just port/polish the stock heads.
Mmr stage 3 port/polish is 950. Just send them the heads they disassemble and reassemble them. Jpc also does it
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They don't?! What's the world coming to? first world problems ---------- Post added at 05:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:54 PM ---------- And 500 NA will be cheaper than having that frpp installed
Thing is, even if it's cheaper(which in the long run I doubt by much if any) then your maxed out. Guy with the blower is a pulley swap and a tune away from 100, 150 hp.
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Thing is, even if it's cheaper(which in the long run I doubt by much if any) then your maxed out. Guy with the blower is a pulley swap and a tune away from 100, 150 hp.
Guy with built motor is a couple pills away from 100-500#hp with nitrous.
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Guy with built motor is a couple pills away from 100-500#hp with nitrous.
The only reason I will not do nitrous not including I road course the s***** out of my car is because when the nos is empty I will still be slow. Now if it was not a dd and all I wanted was low 1/4 times it is really a no brainer that nitrous is the way to go in terms of bang for ur $$$$.
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Just port/polish the stock heads.

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Mmr stage 3 port/polish is 950. Just send them the heads they disassemble and reassemble them. Jpc also does it
I was told Ernie Elliott, Bill Elliott's brother does them, have you heard anything about him?
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Have you considered the hellion turbo complete kit? Superchargers have limitations and are just as expensive as a turbo. Good luck deciding.
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Ok....I didn't see nitrous brought up in the post I replied to though. That's why I compared the 2 things I was replying to.
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The only reason I will not do nitrous not including I road course the s***** out of my car is because when the nos is empty I will still be slow. Now if it was not a dd and all I wanted was low 1/4 times it is really a no brainer that nitrous is the way to go in terms of bang for ur $$$$.
Wont be slow without the bottle. I daily drive my car and spray all the time.

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I was told Ernie Elliott, Bill Elliott's brother does them, have you heard anything about him?
No i am not familiar with him.
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Wont be slow without the bottle. I daily drive my car and spray all the time. ---------- Post added at 06:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:45 PM ---------- No i am not familiar with him.
It will be slow in comparison to having the juice. And the filling up is a **** and $$$ atlease here in miami
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