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Old 09-12-2013, 05:29 PM   #1
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I was wondering if a 2014 gt can safely run e85 fuel? Can anybody help out
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You'll need a tune and bigger injectors to run e85. The mustang isn't a "flex fuel" vehicle.
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DON'T DO IT. Use 93 or 91 if you have to, but no E-85, as the warning label on your fuel cap and your owner's manual says.
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Mustangs run best on ethanol free gas. Don't put that crap in your gas tank.
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Mustangs run best on ethanol free gas. Don't put that crap in your gas tank.
E85 is crap?

E85 is a renewable fuel source that is also environmentally friendly. Its performance is comparable to race gas at a fraction of the cost. Your engine will run cooler and your ETs will be less affected by atmospheric changes. E85 is not corrosive like methanol and does not leave carbon deposits like gas so maintenance is reduced across the board. With the proper tune-up your oil stays looking like new. Also, e85 is rated at 105 octane so it's much safer for your car than 91/93 in terms of preventing detonation.

I've run e85 on my 590rwhp lightning for over a year with maybe 20+ 10 second passes with zero issues. Only thing I can say bad about it is that you will get poor gas mileage with it.
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What was your street driven mpg?? ^
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What was your street driven mpg?? ^
About 8-9mpg on average. The lightning has a 25 gallon tank and I'm lucky to get 225-240 miles out of a full tank of e85. On track days I usually carry 3 or 4 five gallon jugs full of e85 because after 5 or 6 passes and all the staging in the lanes it's usually made a huge dent on the fuel guage lol.
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About 8-9mpg on average. The lightning has a 25 gallon tank and I'm lucky to get 225-240 miles out of a full tank of e85. On track days I usually carry 3 or 4 five gallon jugs full of e85 because after 5 or 6 passes and all the staging in the lanes it's usually made a huge dent on the fuel guage lol.
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Why wouldn't you want to run E85? I would love to run E85 with a Lund tune. More ponies.........why not? There are tons of 5.0 owners running E85.
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I know a guy with a 03-04 cobra and he's running E85. He said he got bigger fuel pumps and injectors also fuel lines and of course a tune
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If you're not turbo or supercharged don't run it. It's when you're FI and that's when you use e85 to make power it helps a lot on power gain. But no need for it right now.
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I was wondering if a 2014 gt can safely run e85 fuel? Can anybody help out
It can with the right mods. What would you want to use it for? Track use?
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Mustangs run best on ethanol free gas. Don't put that crap in your gas tank.
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E85 ftw...I'm able to run 24* timing with my tvs on E85. 👍
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Renewable and eviro friendly, lol, it's made out of our crops, corn etc.
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So use more corn... The government subsidizes a **** load of corn, I personally don't want to be an influence in why our government is as broke as it is. Even though it is mostly used in CAFOS for the cows its still dispersed everywhere.
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E85 is not safe for any factory Mustang.

It also increases the cost of our food...that's another story though.

And to the person above, all factory Mustangs will run more efficient on 100% gasoline without any biofuels.
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Better power on e85 though.
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E85 is not safe for any factory Mustang.

It also increases the cost of our food...that's another story though.

And to the person above, all factory Mustangs will run more efficient on 100% gasoline without any biofuels.
I think this is one of the few times I am on your side lol
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You guys have it wrong when you say it is not "safe". The only problem with factory mustangs is that they were not intended to be run on e85 but rather normal gasoline so tuning and fuel management was not accounted for e85.

If you go fill up your car from empty with e85 it will start and it will run. You will likely not even cause damage to your car in a normal daily driving situation but under high load/high rpm situations it's imperative that your car be able to flow enough fuel so that the air/fuel ratio is "safe". Ford engineers never cared to make sure the vehicle could run on e85 on a daily basis because it was not necessary.

I can however guarantee you that you will gain big HP just from switching to e85 on ANY set-up NA,FI, or N20. Forced induction applications can pick up 20+HP at the wheels just buy switching fuels? And the fuel is also safer for the vehicle I've poured thousands of hard earned dollars into? Where do I sign up?!
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"Safe" can mean different things to different people.
One point being that you will need to run BAP on FI application for E85, some will say that's not "safe" for fuel pump reliability...
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Man people are dumb. I feel like a genius when I read so of these post.
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"Safe" can mean different things to different people.
One point being that you will need to run BAP on FI application for E85, some will say that's not "safe" for fuel pump reliability...
BAP's are a patch to keep you from having to buy a legitimate fuel system. You can just as easily drop the gas tank and put in a Walbro fuel pump with twice the capacity of the stock pump and just as much reliability.
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Pooner52, you can do as you wish, or as several advise you to do (deviate from manufacturer fuel recommendations, or even start changing fuel system components and re-tuning) but, it's in your best interest to comply with your Owner's Manual and Quick Reference Guide while your ride is new and under warranty:

2014 Mustang Quick Reference Guide (page 12)

Fuel Tank Capacity/Fuel Info

Your vehicle has a 16 gallon (60.6L) fuel tank capacity. Use only “Regular” unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 87 or higher. Do not use E85 fuels because your vehicle was not designed to run on fuels with more than 15% ethanol.

Note: For all V8 engines, premium fuel is recommended. Shelby Mustang vehicles require premium fuel. See the respective supplements for more fuel information on these vehicles.
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FUEL QUALITY

Note: Use of any fuel other than those recommended may cause powertrain damage and a loss of vehicle performance; repairs may not be covered under warranty.

CHOOSING THE RIGHT FUEL

Use only unleaded fuel or unleaded fuel blended with a maximum of 15% ethanol. Do not use fuel ethanol (E85), diesel fuel, fuel-methanol, leaded fuel or any other fuel because it could damage or impair the emission control system.
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Renewable and eviro friendly, lol, it's made out of our crops, corn etc.
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yeah, please don't use it........I hunt here in TX and it drives my feed prices up too
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Pooner52, you can do as you wish, or as several advise you to do (deviate from manufacturer fuel recommendations, or even start changing fuel system components and re-tuning) but, it's in your best interest to comply with your Owner's Manual and Quick Reference Guide while your ride is new and under warranty:

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Your vehicle has a 16 gallon (60.6L) fuel tank capacity. Use only “Regular” unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 87 or higher. Do not use E85 fuels because your vehicle was not designed to run on fuels with more than 15% ethanol.

Note: For all V8 engines, premium fuel is recommended. Shelby Mustang vehicles require premium fuel. See the respective supplements for more fuel information on these vehicles.
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Note: Use of any fuel other than those recommended may cause powertrain damage and a loss of vehicle performance; repairs may not be covered under warranty.

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Use only unleaded fuel or unleaded fuel blended with a maximum of 15% ethanol. Do not use fuel ethanol (E85), diesel fuel, fuel-methanol, leaded fuel or any other fuel because it could damage or impair the emission control system.
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Like others said you need a tune and larger injectors. E85 is great for what it is.
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Pooner52, you can do as you wish, or as several advise you to do (deviate from manufacturer fuel recommendations, or even start changing fuel system components and re-tuning) but, it's in your best interest to comply with your Owner's Manual and Quick Reference Guide while your ride is new and under warranty:

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Going off of this premise we should also suggest that the OP NOT install anything else on his car.

For example, cold air intakes,throttle bodies, intake manifold, headers, catless mid pipes, tunes, aftermarket wheels or suspension components, shifters, and definitely not nitrous, turbos superchargers, or anything varying in ANY way from the original designed usage and intention of the car from the factory as stated in the owners manual. Wouldn't want to hurt your warranty or your engine with all those risky parts... Right?
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Going off of this premise we should also suggest that the OP NOT install anything else on his car.

For example, cold air intakes,throttle bodies, intake manifold, headers, catless mid pipes, tunes, aftermarket wheels or suspension components, shifters, and definitely not nitrous, turbos superchargers, or anything varying in ANY way from the original designed usage and intention of the car from the factory as stated in the owners manual. Wouldn't want to hurt your warranty or your engine with all those risky parts... Right?
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Corn = government subsidy

You guys are so quick to say "government motors" but don't realize that the government spends so much more money every year on corn subsidies. I'm not against the idea of using e85 but I would much rather get actual race gas and not make the government debt worse.
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Corn = government subsidy

You guys are so quick to say "government motors" but don't realize that the government spends so much more money every year on corn subsidies. I'm not against the idea of using e85 but I would much rather get actual race gas and not make the government debt worse.
Haha I would rather get "actual race gas too" but I refuse to spend $400 for 50 gallons of gas I only use when I'm at the track. Not to mention if you don't use it, it can't just sit around and stay good.
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OP hasn't responded yet and we've just kinda made up what he's really asking about E85...
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