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Old 09-13-2013, 10:23 AM   #1
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Shifting up to 2nd

I have never had the 2nd to 3rd shift problem that many people talk about; however, about 50% of the time I have to fight to shift from 1st to 2nd. This is my first manual car but I have nearly a year under my belt now, and I'd describe it as being notchy. It just hits an invisible wall when you try to go into second and then you have to pull the shifter really hard to get it to go. I've had this issue with the stock bracket and also the barton 2-post. The other 50% of the time it's smooth as butter. Does anyone else have this issue or know how to fix it?
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I had the same problem. You can't go pass 5K rpm an try to shift it just won't go. If your under warranty take it back and get your synchronizing checked for each gear and clutch fork make sure it's not bent. What year is your car? I got a '11
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'13. RPMs doesn't seem to make a difference on mine. But at high RPMs i can barely put the clutch down to go into second (different problem). Do you think they'll blame me since I have an aftermarket shifter bracket?
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I would think the shifter bracket would help. May need to invest in the shifter it selfc
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This is why I decided on the auto. That china made MT is crap. I had one in my v6 had the same problem notchy shifting. If its get cold in your area. Good luck shifting then. It gets a lot worse in the cold until the tranny warms up. The shift bracket helps but it still shift like crap in the cold. It's a shame you are forced to up grade and spend hundreds of dollars because Ford decided to go with cheap labor and quality.
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KARgt13,

I would take the car into your dealer and have the issue looked at and at least recorded in their records. So, if they don't find a problem and send you on your way, but the issue occurs worse in the future, they'll be more likely to work with you on a solution.

I also don't think they'll give you any trouble about the Barton bracket. If anything, the Barton bracket should help resolve shifting problems by stabilizing the shifting linkage.

Talk to your dealer and let us know what they say! Hopefully the lock-out repeats itself when the technician is diagnosing it.

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Also ask your dealer if there are any TSB (technical service bulletin) on your tranny and car in general. Ford sends these out like recalls. The two differences between them is. Recalls are safety related and Ford send you a letter informing you. A TSB Ford informs the dealers about the problem, but it is up to you to check in with your dealer to see if there is an open TSB. When I had my 2011 V6 there was a TSB for the transmission fluid. They changed it and it helped the shifting but did not correct it 100%. The bracket almost made it perfect but those darn cold days really stunk.

In your case I would take it to the dealers as well tell them the problem. They will check if there is a TSB. (they are fixed free of charge) hopefully it gets resolved for you. You should not have to spend extra money in aftermarket parts to make your tranny shift like it suppose to. Good Luck!
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KARgt13,

I would take the car into your dealer and have the issue looked at and at least recorded in their records. So, if they don't find a problem and send you on your way, but the issue occurs worse in the future, they'll be more likely to work with you on a solution.

I also don't think they'll give you any trouble about the Barton bracket. If anything, the Barton bracket should help resolve shifting problems by stabilizing the shifting linkage.

Talk to your dealer and let us know what they say! Hopefully the lock-out repeats itself when the technician is diagnosing it.

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Thanks, Shane. That's inevitably what I'm going to have to do.

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Also ask your dealer if there are any TSB (technical service bulletin) on your tranny and car in general. Ford sends these out like recalls. The two differences between them is. Recalls are safety related and Ford send you a letter informing you. A TSB Ford informs the dealers about the problem, but it is up to you to check in with your dealer to see if there is an open TSB. When I had my 2011 V6 there was a TSB for the transmission fluid. They changed it and it helped the shifting but did not correct it 100%. The bracket almost made it perfect but those darn cold days really stunk.

In your case I would take it to the dealers as well tell them the problem. They will check if there is a TSB. (they are fixed free of charge) hopefully it gets resolved for you. You should not have to spend extra money in aftermarket parts to make your tranny shift like it suppose to. Good Luck!
They finally changed the fluid for 13s so I don't have an issue in the cold, but this 2nd gear thing is year round.
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I guess I should add that on occasion it even feels like it grinds
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I have never had the 2nd to 3rd shift problem that many people talk about; however, about 50% of the time I have to fight to shift from 1st to 2nd. This is my first manual car but I have nearly a year under my belt now, and I'd describe it as being notchy. It just hits an invisible wall when you try to go into second and then you have to pull the shifter really hard to get it to go. I've had this issue with the stock bracket and also the barton 2-post. The other 50% of the time it's smooth as butter. Does anyone else have this issue or know how to fix it?
Unplug the skip shift solenoid easy fix if u wanna retain your warranty. Or tune it and have it disabled there. U pick
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Unplug the skip shift solenoid easy fix if u wanna retain your warranty. Or tune it and have it disabled there. U pick
No skip shift on the 13s
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No skip shift on the 13s
It actually is lemme get u the link its on page 13 chill

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No skip shift on the 13s
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It actually is lemme get u the link its on page 13 chill

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...mYxMzZmNjk2ZDk
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Thanks Charlie, that .pdf is awesome!
Im here to help bro
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It actually is lemme get u the link its on page 13 chill

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https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...mYxMzZmNjk2ZDk
I'M SORRY I DOUBTED YOU! Everyone says it doesn't have it. God damn, I have been lied to. No wonder it never wants to go in 2nd.

http://dirtyhipporacing.com/2013/04/...de-mystified/I don't know the credibility of this but this person says he has skip shift symptoms but no solenoid
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Get you a tuner and change the transmission fluid with some good oil. I prefer royal purple since its hard to find redline oils I'm my area. I still get locked out of some off my gears but no where near as much.
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Ok so I think that has been my prob with my shifting cause I had no prob shifting into 2nd over 3000 but under I heard rattling when pushing clutch in and shifter was a little notchy. I did use 1 to 3 shift which was pretty smooth but worried that rpm were too low and that would ware out clutch.
So, how do you use the skip shift then? 1st to 4th at 10 mph.... That's ok for clutch?
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That Chinese made mt made me not want a new 5.0. $30K+ for Chinese junk? Might as well get jdm for half the price an same quality tranny and that $ can be made to mod the port. why ford why
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That Chinese made mt made me not want a new 5.0. $30K+ for Chinese junk? Might as well get jdm for half the price an same quality tranny and that $ can be made to mod the port. why ford why
Lol mines made in canada :p
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This is why I decided on the auto. That china made MT is crap. I had one in my v6 had the same problem notchy shifting. If its get cold in your area. Good luck shifting then. It gets a lot worse in the cold until the tranny warms up. The shift bracket helps but it still shift like crap in the cold. It's a shame you are forced to up grade and spend hundreds of dollars because Ford decided to go with cheap labor and quality.
I can attest to this. When it's cold care shifts like crap. Once it's really warmed up, totally different
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I can attest to this. When it's cold care shifts like crap. Once it's really warmed up, totally different
agreed. But note that it doesn't take too long for the warm up. It's just annoying in the winter the first couple of minutes of the drive.
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It really doesn't take that long to warm up, u just have to shift between 1.5-2k until it warms up and u will be fine
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Beside the weird noises from mt82 and ocasional clunk shifts mine tranny runs great and shift amazing at 6500 to 7000 rpm... The mt82 isnt all that bad... I added just a barton original bracket no 2 post and its great. Still have stock fluid.. Cars a 2012 and was orderd in 2011 march... Has 40km
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I heard the clunking comes from the factory 2 piece driveshaft, not the trans... which is normal, I think the fix is a lighter 1 piece. Hopefully someone can chime in to verify that
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I heard the clunking comes from the factory 2 piece driveshaft, not the trans... which is normal, I think the fix is a lighter 1 piece. Hopefully someone can chime in to verify that
I wish that was the case. I would have made the change in a heartbeat. On the other hand, if that helps, I would still consider it. But we need someone to chime in and share some evidence.
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