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Old 09-18-2013, 05:09 AM   #1
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Emissions legal

Considering trading my mustang in and I was just wondering what all I would need to do to get emissions legal again? Install cats I k ow but would I need a retune or could I just go to the exhaust shop and have "any" cat welded in? I sold mine after I installed my cat delete pipes, didn't think I would ever trade at the time
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I'd sell it to someone "as is", you won't get more if you trade it in...
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I'd sell it to someone "as is", you won't get more if you trade it in...
It still has to be emissions legal even with a private sale. Unless the buyer does not care.
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It still has to be emissions legal even with a private sale. Unless the buyer does not care.
If did the buyer did, why would he or she be looking at the ad?
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It still has to be emissions legal even with a private sale. Unless the buyer does not care.
This is what I thought. I was under the impression that it had to be emissions legal just to sell, I know it does to trade it. And that is actually what I was planning to do was selling it outright.
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This is why I've stored OEM mufflers, CAI, etc., vice selling/trading them. It's also a reason why I'd be skeptical about buying a used Mustang, unless it was safety/emissions inspected prior to making the deal. Too many modders out there that illegally alter emissions systems with o/r exhaust, tunes, etc..
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If you are going to sell a car it legally needs catalytic converters, even if you sell "as is" and it doesn't have cats they can come back and demand you put cats in or you can be hit with a huge fine.
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If you are going to sell a car it legally needs catalytic converters, even if you sell "as is" and it doesn't have cats they can come back and demand you put cats in or you can be hit with a huge fine.
+1 if they can't get it to smog they can come back to you and fine you, either make you pay for it to pass smog or you give them their money back plus a fine
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Why are you thinking about trading in the mustang, if you don't mind me asking?
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Why are you thinking about trading in the mustang, if you don't mind me asking?
A 2013 dodge 1500 sport. I really like trucks and have missed mine ever sense I traded for this mustang so it was fun but if I can make a deal I think I'm going to go ahead and trade
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*graceful exits stage right*
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A 2013 dodge 1500 sport. I really like trucks and have missed mine ever sense I traded for this mustang so it was fun but if I can make a deal I think I'm going to go ahead and trade
Can say I blame you, I'd be lost without a truck. That's probably why I have three.
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:01 PM   #13
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Can say I blame you, I'd be lost without a truck. That's probably why I have three.
Ya exactly. I've really needed a truck over the past year and I qualify for around 7-8k off a brand new sport 1500 so it's just a really good deal. I will still have my first mustang (now my project car) so ill stick around the forum but ya I'm pretty set on trading if I can
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Well one heated argument with a sales manager later and it looks like I am keeping my car for now. Thanks for the help though
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If you sell your car "as is" im pretty sure the buyer is on the hook for everything
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If you sell your car "as is" im pretty sure the buyer is on the hook for everything
Nope, it is the sellers responsibility to either smog it or make sure it will pass smog. If you sell a car without cats to someone "as is" they can still come back and either force you to buy the car back or put cats back in it, if you don't then you will be hit with a huge fine.
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It still has to be emissions legal even with a private sale. Unless the buyer does not care.
I didn't put my cats back on when I traded it in. They didn't look, I didn't tell.
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I went to the dealer yesterday before I had a chance to buy some cats just to see what they would do and the damn dodge dealer tried to say it would cost 3k to put cats back in my and get it emission legal..... Needless to say this pissed me off, I can't stand when somebody try's to screw me over, so after 5-10 min of arguing I just left. On to the next deal or just finish paying this car off
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I went to the dealer yesterday before I had a chance to buy some cats just to see what they would do and the damn dodge dealer tried to say it would cost 3k to put cats back in my and get it emission legal..... Needless to say this pissed me off, I can't stand when somebody try's to screw me over, so after 5-10 min of arguing I just left. On to the next deal or just finish paying this car off
Dude I told that dealer... "Hey step a little closer" !!SMACK!! Right upside his head !!! For being a jack-***. I can't that either I actually lose so much respect for businesses when I know they're price hawking. For the money you've invested already you better off just keeping her.
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I was quoted $3k to put new cats on my Mach 1 when I had an engine light come on. I laughed at the guy over the phone but it is pricey to replace factory cats with factory cats.
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I went to the dealer yesterday before I had a chance to buy some cats just to see what they would do and the damn dodge dealer tried to say it would cost 3k to put cats back in my and get it emission legal..... Needless to say this pissed me off, I can't stand when somebody try's to screw me over, so after 5-10 min of arguing I just left. On to the next deal or just finish paying this car off
Buy a catted mid pipe from AM or something or just cats and have them welded in, as long as they don't throw a check engine light it's legal. It doesn't have to be factory, just has to pass an emissions test, and if you're light doesn't come on it most likely will pass.
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Nope, it is the sellers responsibility to either smog it or make sure it will pass smog. If you sell a car without cats to someone "as is" they can still come back and either force you to buy the car back or put cats back in it, if you don't then you will be hit with a huge fine.
Hmmm idk i still think the buyers on the hook. Im going to so research on it
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Hmmm idk i still think the buyers on the hook. Im going to so research on it
You would think so, it's the obvious thing. But that's the stupid law for you.
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Buy a catted mid pipe from AM or something or just cats and have them welded in, as long as they don't throw a check engine light it's legal. It doesn't have to be factory, just has to pass an emissions test, and if you're light doesn't come on it most likely will pass.
Exactly. I pulled up a catted xpipe on AM from my iPhone and showed him
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Hmmm idk i still think the buyers on the hook. Im going to so research on it
My first mustang back in 82 had the cats removed. I didn't know until I went to get is smog tested and it failed. Without cats the car is not street legal and selling it without disclosure is fraud. So I ended up with free cats added to may car by the seller.
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In Indiana, "as is " means as is. Sure if you get a lawyer involved, the seller could end up on the hook for the cats, since lawyers write loopholes into every law. When I traded cars, the dealer told me he couldn't sell the car without cats. I told him yes he could if sold as is. He said I was right, but inorder for them to warranty the car, it had to comply with emissions.
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