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Old 09-24-2013, 09:29 PM   #1
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Problems after installing spark plugs

So I just replaced my stock spark it's with e3 spark plugs today. Simple process. Only issue I had was a little spark when one of the wrenches hit a part of the battery terminal but that should do no harm. Well after putting everything back in its place. I start the car and the service advancetrac . The stability control and advancetrac is off and turning the steering wheel sucks
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Maybe just maybe the shorting did do some harm...?
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I even checked the fuse that controls the electronic stability on the passenger side and it's in tact...any ideas of what it could be
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Did you check the the steering feel setting in the main options? You can change it to comfort and sport
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The advancetrac button isn't even working for me to switch it

Just put the old plugs back in (which I doubted was the problem but I wanted to give it a shot) of course that didn't work.
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That's weird! Did you disconnect the battery for 10 mins and retry? I would just take it in have the dealership diagnose.
Any cell light showing?

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So I just replaced my stock spark it's with e3 spark plugs today. Simple process. Only issue I had was a little spark when one of the wrenches hit a part of the battery terminal but that should do no harm. Well after putting everything back in its place. I start the car and the service advancetrac . The stability control and advancetrac is off and turning the steering wheel sucks
If when you say "turning the steering wheel sucks", means it's Very Difficult to turn; I'd check for a fuse for the Electric Power Steering. If it's just a suttle change, then it would be in the menu from the Steering Wheel. Sorry, I don't have my Manual right here to offer specifics.
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Did that twice and I found that thread earlier today. I think it's just a terribly bad day. I washed my car, it rained twice, ichange my plugs, steering goes out, I go to check that, one of the HiD lights go out. I'm through with today. Guess it's to the dealership I go. And my warranty expired last month.
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Damn man that sucks.. I hope you find the problem. Keep researching, it never hurts to keep trying.
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Did that twice and I found that thread earlier today. I think it's just a terribly bad day. I washed my car, it rained twice, ichange my plugs, steering goes out, I go to check that, one of the HiD lights go out. I'm through with today. Guess it's to the dealership I go. And my warranty expired last month.
Good Luck when you take it in, maybe you'll be having a better day and your Dealer's Service Dept will have some pity on you about the warranty. Just Don't Hold Your Breath. Maybe your Salesman could Help you about that--never hurts to try.
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Sounds like you blew the main fuse that comes off the battery. That part will have to be replaced. You're supposed to disconnect the battery when changing plugs.
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Sounds like you blew the main fuse that comes off the battery. That part will have to be replaced. You're supposed to disconnect the battery when changing plugs.
^+1 This.
Last time I check e3 didn't make plugs specific for the 11-14 GT's yet.
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Oreilys gave me some E3's that worked fine when I put them in. They tightened fine and I didn't have any engine running issues when I installed them . The old plugs are in them now and the car is at the dealership. I know a guy at the GMC dealership next door owned by the same guy and I hope helps me out with the warranty out for only a month. I definitely didn't know u should disconnect the battery when changing plugs.....note taken.. U guys think it was the plugs?
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I think it was the spark and as mentioned a fuse...it's already at the shop now, but next time (if you didn't) check all fuses.
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Sounds like you blew the main fuse that comes off the battery. That part will have to be replaced. You're supposed to disconnect the battery when changing plugs.
WOW I've never heard that before, and I've changed a lot of Spark Plugs in my day. I know these new engines are Hi-Tech, so are you supposed to Disconnect the Battery for just about anything you do under the hood? I know that was also in the Instructions when I put an AirAid Throttle Body Spacer on my 5.0, and I thought that was odd. Is it an Engine Computer thing, or what?
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WOW I've never heard that before, and I've changed a lot of Spark Plugs in my day. I know these new engines are Hi-Tech, so are you supposed to Disconnect the Battery for just about anything you do under the hood? I know that was also in the Instructions when I put an AirAid Throttle Body Spacer on my 5.0, and I thought that was odd. Is it an Engine Computer thing, or what?
Anything you do electronically I would assume. Don't wanna cross + with - by a slip of a wrench like you did. Engine work wise also cuz you don't want to slip your wrench and cross it either. So... I guess that's every time Just to be safe
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Anything you do electronically I would assume. Don't wanna cross + with - by a slip of a wrench like you did. Engine work wise also cuz you don't want to slip your wrench and cross it either. So... I guess that's every time Just to be safe
Actually, this wasn't my Post, I was just commenting.
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I'm just praying it isn't something outrageously stupid. If it's just a fuse I'm perfectly fine with that, although I did check all the fuses under the hood and a few that were on the passenger kick plate. I'm dreading it's something more serious than that though.
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Oreilys gave me some E3's that worked fine when I put them in. They tightened fine and I didn't have any engine running issues when I installed them . The old plugs are in them now and the car is at the dealership. I know a guy at the GMC dealership next door owned by the same guy and I hope helps me out with the warranty out for only a month. I definitely didn't know u should disconnect the battery when changing plugs.....note taken.. U guys think it was the plugs?
How many miles do you have on the car where you felt the need to change plugs? It's not the plugs though. See below.
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WOW I've never heard that before, and I've changed a lot of Spark Plugs in my day. I know these new engines are Hi-Tech, so are you supposed to Disconnect the Battery for just about anything you do under the hood? I know that was also in the Instructions when I put an AirAid Throttle Body Spacer on my 5.0, and I thought that was odd. Is it an Engine Computer thing, or what?
The reason you want to disconnect the battery when changing plugs is because the positive battery cable has a main fuse that is easily shorted out when you change plugs. Something the original poster found out the hard way.
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I'm just praying it isn't something outrageously stupid. If it's just a fuse I'm perfectly fine with that, although I did check all the fuses under the hood and a few that were on the passenger kick plate. I'm dreading it's something more serious than that though.
It's not a fuse under the hood but rather a main fuse attached to the positive batter cable. That's what you shorted out causing all your problems. It's like a $50.00 part.
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Blown main battery fuse and they had to replace the steering column..... You guys are pretty spot on. Now I just hope they don't canyonize my wallet.
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How many miles do you have on the car where you felt the need to change plugs? It's not the plugs though. See below.

The reason you want to disconnect the battery when changing plugs is because the positive battery cable has a main fuse that is easily shorted out when you change plugs. Something the original poster found out the hard way.

It's not a fuse under the hood but rather a main fuse attached to the positive batter cable. That's what you shorted out causing all your problems. It's like a $50.00 part.
Great information to know, I don't recall seeing anything about that in the Owner's Manual. Thanks.
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That's what you get for installing pos plugs...

Glad it's fixed though.
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That's what you get for installing pos plugs... Glad it's fixed though.
Great addition to the thread, especially since it didn't have anything to do with the plugs themselves!
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Great addition to the thread, especially since it didn't have anything to do with the plugs themselves!
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Why do people talk so well about e3's then? I need to know because I definitely don't wanna put pos anything in or on my car.
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You never answered my question on how many miles on your car where you felt the need to change plugs?
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24,000 miles on her. I just changed them because I hear u should change them sooner depending on how long you've gone on them with a tune. I've been on them tuned for about.12.000 miles.. If this is too early, when should I change em ?
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24,000 miles on her. I just changed them because I hear u should change them sooner depending on how long you've gone on them with a tune. I've been on them tuned for about.12.000 miles.. If this is too early, when should I change em ?
On a normal/light modded car 75,000 miles is about right. I think Ford recommends 100k.

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Great addition to the thread, especially since it didn't have anything to do with the plugs themselves!
You're welcome.

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Why do people talk so well about e3's then? I need to know because I definitely don't wanna put pos anything in or on my car.
A spark plug only has one spark. Having multiple points only makes a plug more expensive. Unless you are nitrous or forced induction motorcraft/autolite will do you just fine.

As far as the hype, if they were paying me several thousand $'s a year i'd hype them too.
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24,000 miles on her. I just changed them because I hear u should change them sooner depending on how long you've gone on them with a tune. I've been on them tuned for about.12.000 miles.. If this is too early, when should I change em ?
There was definitely no need to change them.
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Next time actually inspect the plugs and see if they need changing.....many guides and photos on line.
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Haha warranty in tact!!!! I would've had to pay $1200 !!!
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Congrats man...good to here!
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Haha warranty in tact!!!! I would've had to pay $1200 !!!
You sure dodged a Bullet that time. Glad it all worked out for you.
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Thanks to all for the info. I will make sure to disconnect the battery for ANY engine mods.
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It's funny of all the family, friends, and others I know that have "mechanic advice" for the situation , the most useful always comes from this forum
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