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Old 11-20-2013, 09:00 AM   #1
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Barton short throw shifter

I've read several posts about people that love their MGW shifter. Want to know if there's anyone that has a Barton shifter and how good it is. I just installed the Barton two post bracket which helped the shifts tremendously but added a lot of noise. Was planning on getting the shifter but wanted to get some opinions on the set up.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:15 AM   #2
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It's all personal preference.. MGW and Barton are the top two that people really like. I personally have never felt a Barton shifter in person.. But I decided to go with the MGW and love it!
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It's all personal preference.. MGW and Barton are the top two that people really like. I personally have never felt a Barton shifter in person.. But I decided to go with the MGW and love it!
I went with MGW solely based on the opinions of other people and it's rep. 100% love it! I can't imaging any other shifter feeling better. That's just my opinion.
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I got the Barton and 2 post bracket and there's nothing to complain about. little noisy but the shifts are always there. like they said it's either MGW or Barton.
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I have the barton two post bracket and shifter and Iove it, it is a little noisier than stock but for the cleaner tighter throws it is worth the trade off for me. I think the barton has a little shorter throws than the MGW but the MGW is supposed to be smoother and quieter. If you decide on the barton I don't think you will be disappointed.
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I think you would be very satisfied with either one.
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+1^ Both are great short throws
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I don't know if anyone has tried this and I haven't seen the Mgw setup, but, I'm thinking the noise with the Barton is simply due to completely metal on metal transferring noise. I was thinking of putting a piece of rubber, like an old bicycle tire, around the shaft of the transmission and reinstalling the bracket. I'm thinking that with as tight as the bracket clamps there would be no slipping and the rubber between the metal would deaden a lot of the noise.... Any suggestions or thoughts,
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I know my MGW came with a noise reducer that was a piece of foam that went around the whole shifter boot, not sure about the tire though.
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Does that boot just lay down from the top? Still metal on metal at the transmission?
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:07 AM   #11
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Yes, the foam insert just goes over the top of the shifter and then you put the boot back on over it. I'll get a picture for you
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Ok, I would appreciate it. The xtra noise is irritating. Not gna give up the better shifts but would like to cut out some of the noise if I can.
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I'll snap a picture for you later today once I get out of school.
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I've had both Barton w/ 2 post and MGW, and they both perform very good... But the drivetrain noise from the Barton was very irritating to me, I used some insulation and stuffed as much as I could underneath the console/cup holder area and it helped a bit... I upgraded to MGW, and don't regret it at all, only thing I miss from the Barton is the shorter shifts
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So u prefer the Mgw for the quietness but the Barton for shorter shifts?
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MGW is way better than Barton, it's has way more pros than cons. U can slap into the gears with more confidence knowing the lower shift box gives the remove shifter linkage more leverage. The throws are not the problem at all with the MT82, it's the poor design with remote linkage.
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MGW is way better than Barton, it's has way more pros than cons. U can slap into the gears with more confidence knowing the lower shift box gives the remove shifter linkage more leverage. The throws are not the problem at all with the MT82, it's the poor design with remote linkage.
Exactly! The problem that everyone is having is due to the way ford put this Trans in the car. Not because of the Trans itself. The transmission is allowed to move around way too much from stock and that's what causes missed shifts. By the time you have swapped for better brackets and other things your transmission can no longer move around and there's also no flimsy rubber to absorb NVH. Sound deadening material installed in the console will really quiet up a Barton set-up BTW. Barton is the shortest shifter on the market I think and if you have a "race car" you might want that. Most everyone on here is looking for shorter throws that you can actually get into during spirited driving, and not necessarily the shortest throw possible
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Well crap, beginning to sound like I wasted $ on the Barton bracket and should have just saved for Mgw shifter. The bracket problem is fixed with the Mgw shifter right?
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I swapped cars with a buddy for a day, his has the Barton, mine the mgw. They are both exponentially greater than stock, but like said the Barton though shorter, was notchier, more nvh, and just felt sloppier than the mgw. Had I never felt the mgw I would say the Barton is amazing. I bought my MGW not knowing what to expect though I have had MGW previously in my sn95 so I knew the quality. Either one is a huge improvement, but I just feel the MGW is superior to Barton in every way minus the percent reduction. And to me, you get more for your money with the mgw. You can't and won't go wrong with either one though
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When I installed my Barton 2 post there was a big increase in noise. Well, I had to remove said bracket to install my Hurst. This time I paid a lot more attention to the details or accidentally did a better job. I must have had the bracket uneven on the studs, making metal to metal contact on the tunnel cause this time the noise is back to near stock levels... maybe the little foam strip does some good...
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Guess I'm gna check prices for the Mgw vs Barton. I was jst trying to save a lil $$ on the front end.
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Guess I'm gna check prices for the Mgw vs Barton. I was jst trying to save a lil $$ on the front end.
Do not save money on your drivetrain. It will come back and haunt you later. Spend the $$ upfront on the best and it will last for years to come. Save money when it comes to buying name brand performance parts that all do the same thing. Like cold air intakes, throttle bodies, or skip buying name brand headers. But anything directly related to the function of the vehicle and your driving needs to be the best
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I was jst trying to save a lil $$ on the front end
The Barton with the bracket is $369 compared to the MGW which is $390 TRUST me there is a $21 difference in cost and a HUGE difference in performance. That will be the best $21 you EVER spend
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Yea, I didn't know there was that much difference btwn the Barton and Mgw. Saw a good deal on the bracket so grabbed it cuz don't have the cash for the whole shifter right now.... Oh well, maybe someone will like the racier feel of Barton and want to go that route when I'm able to get the Mgw
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When I installed my Barton 2 post there was a big increase in noise. Well, I had to remove said bracket to install my Hurst. This time I paid a lot more attention to the details or accidentally did a better job. I must have had the bracket uneven on the studs, making metal to metal contact on the tunnel cause this time the noise is back to near stock levels... maybe the little foam strip does some good...
Recently, I added a Barton 2-post bracket to my OEM shifter and a Whiteline tranny mount insert. I'm happy with both. Together, they certainly reduced excessive flexing and my occasional 2-3 shift lockouts are gone completely. But as you say, there's a cabin noise increase. Today, I ordered a $15 shifter gasket. It is supposed to insulate noise that comes through the shifter from metal-to-metal contact. Once I get the gasket installed, I'll report the change, if any. In the meantime, I've layed a scrap piece of R-11 insulation under the console cover, which surrounds the shifter and boot. It helped some, but not enough to suit me.

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I bought and installed this gasket when installing a hurst shifter on my 14' gt. I also used white Teflon tape on all four screws because they will loosen over time; you can use lock tire but did not go that route. No NVH that I can tell. I reinstalled the original boot because it fit and helps protect the shifter.
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I bought and installed this gasket when installing a hurst shifter on my 14' gt. I also used white Teflon tape on all four screws because they will loosen over time; you can use lock tire but did not go that route. No NVH that I can tell. I reinstalled the original boot because it fit and helps protect the shifter.
Do you like the Hurst shifter. I been thinking of getting the Hurst myself
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I bought and installed this gasket when installing a hurst shifter on my 14' gt. I also used white Teflon tape on all four screws because they will loosen over time; you can use lock tire but did not go that route. No NVH that I can tell. I reinstalled the original boot because it fit and helps protect the shifter.
Thanks for the advice! I'm looking forward to receiving the gasket and getting it installed.
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Do you like the Hurst shifter. I been thinking of getting the Hurst myself
Personally I would have gone with the Barton but I got my hurst for under $100 used. These two are easier to install, however, if you want the best then MGW it is. If you find one used then you should take it.
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Preciate all the info. Where did u get the gasket? Where does it actually install at?
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Preciate all the info. Where did u get the gasket? Where does it actually install at?
This is where you get one: StangShifterGaskets

The gasket is installed under this:
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Well, anyone planning to use the Barton bracket.... Today I took it off, used a 12" bicycle tire. Slipped a two inch piece on to the transmission shaft and reinstalled. Noise is almost completely eliminated!!! Almost back to stock noise level!!!
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Well, anyone planning to use the Barton bracket.... Today I took it off, used a 12" bicycle tire. Slipped a two inch piece on to the transmission shaft and reinstalled. Noise is almost completely eliminated!!! Almost back to stock noise level!!!
Will the tire pieces be able to hold up when the tranny heats up? The gaskets are high temp.
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I would think so. It's on the outside and non moving. Besides look at the crappy stock rubber.... If that held up I'm sure this will
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Tire ? Or an inner tube...?
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