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Old 01-13-2014, 01:45 PM   #1
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Bbk headers on the 2011+ 5.0

Does anyone have and/or know anything about the performance gains that the bbk headers offer on the new 5.0s. I am looking to buy a set but want to know first if they fixed the problems they had on the s197 series with fitment. If anyone has any good insight that would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Old 01-13-2014, 10:02 PM   #2
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yes the fitment issues are fixed. I am using them along with the off road x pipe.. there is no clearance issues around the frame, steering shaft, starter, or frame rails. X pipe bolts up to the headers with no leaks, and mates up the oem over axles or any cat back that would mate to factory mid pipe.
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How are your performance gains. Also how is the under hood heat?

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under hood heat isn't going to change much or at all compared to the factory headers. The gains were good. On a MD mustang dyno before headers and boss manifold I put down 395-400whp 395tq, After headers and boss manifold I laid on the same dyno 435rwhp-375tq. Again that's on a Mustang dyno (read lower than dyno jets). Runs mid 11's and traps 121-123 NA
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Well then I believe that is settled. Did you do the install yourself or take it to a shop?

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I do every install myself, Including building mod motors and doing supercharger and nitrous installs and built motors for lsx and ford cars. But to answer your question yes I did the install lol.. we charge at the shop I am with 450 for coyote header installs.. 4.5-5.5hour install time.
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Very well. Where is your shop.

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Port Penn , Delaware.. horsepoweraddicts.net
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Yea. A little far from me. I'm in Houston.

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Your name is James isn't it?
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under hood heat isn't going to change much or at all compared to the factory headers. The gains were good. On a MD mustang dyno before headers and boss manifold I put down 395-400whp 395tq, After headers and boss manifold I laid on the same dyno 435rwhp-375tq. Again that's on a Mustang dyno (read lower than dyno jets). Runs mid 11's and traps 121-123 NA
You came to our clubs dyno day in Smryna DE back in the summer, didnt you?
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I am from down below salisbury, Maryland. I might have to consider getting you guys to do the install on my 11 GT . Finally glad to see some people from the eastern shore!
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I am from down below salisbury, Maryland. I might have to consider getting you guys to do the install on my 11 GT . Finally glad to see some people from the eastern shore!
Down below Salisbury are ya. Lol. Berlin perhaps? You going to the May car cruize down in OC?
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Your name is James isn't it?
No the owners name is josh. I am Kevin and help out there whenever my worm schedule and family allows time for it.
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No the owners name is josh. I am Kevin and help out there whenever my worm schedule and family allows time for it.
Got ya. I thought you were somebody that was in my mustang club. Sorry
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You came to our clubs dyno day in Smryna DE back in the summer, didnt you?
I didn't go to performance-evolution dyno day. Josh may have. He usually goes because we get gm work from Matt (pe) and Josh from the Mopar shop there in smyrna and helps out by tuning the Ls cars for them
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I didn't go to performance-evolution dyno day. Josh may have. He usually goes because we get gm work from Matt (pe) and Josh from the Mopar shop there in smyrna and helps out by tuning the Las cars for them
Does Josh have a black Challenger that has like 900 HP give or take. Real sweet ride. If so, he was real cool Josh. Matt , at performance evolution I hear is amazing at dyno tunes and performance installs.
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Hey kevin is there anyone who has gotten the JBA lth installed at your shop and if so is there much of a difference b/w the JBA and BBK lth setup. Also do you have the ceramic or chrome on your car for the BBKs
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Hey kevin is there anyone who has gotten the JBA lth installed at your shop and if so is there much of a difference b/w the JBA and BBK lth setup. Also do you have the ceramic or chrome on your car for the BBKs
I have BBK ceramic long tube headers. Ceramic will keep a bit cooler and will not discolor.
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how are your power gains with them?
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Does anyone have and/or know anything about the performance gains that the bbk headers offer on the new 5.0s. I am looking to buy a set but want to know first if they fixed the problems they had on the s197 series with fitment. If anyone has any good insight that would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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I know your question has been mostly answered, but just to confirm once again- The BBK LT headers fit great on the different S197 Mustangs. I know there were a few tweaks that BBK made from the original set, but that was quite some time ago. Since then, I have yet to see anyone with issues.

We've experienced awesome gains with LT headers and an O/R Xpipe on the coyote 5.0's. Some of our Project Cars have seen as much as 30hp & tq within the power band from this mod alone. Even more if paired with the Boss intake manifold.

What other mods do you have to the car? Also, what are you plans short term and long term? I highly suggest upgrading to a Boss intake manifold and larger TB down the road, if you have the chance. They really help compliment the LT headers!

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Shane, Im holding off on spending the money on a Boss intake & tb because down the road i intend to install the roush stage 2 blower. holding off on the intake and tb saves me quite a bit of money in the long run and allows me to keep my engine warranty for the time being.
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we have not done a jba.. But the install is no different between the brands.
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I was wondering more if you had seen a difference in performance b/w jba and bbk
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Does Josh have a black Challenger that has like 900 HP give or take. Real sweet ride. If so, he was real cool Josh. Matt , at performance evolution I hear is amazing at dyno tunes and performance installs.
the owner of the mopar name is also Josh. The owner of the HPA (Josh) Home Page has several different cars, 08 built LSX turbo'd c6 zo6, built LS powered 95 Turbo trans am, and several diesel shop trucks.
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I was wondering more if you had seen a difference in performance b/w jba and bbk
I am not sure or not if we/they have done JBA. But we have done pypes,BBK,American racing. And a couple other brands imop there is no differences honestly on the install, we do each one in the same steps.
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Is there much of a difference in the gains the different brands give or are they all around the same.
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They are all around the same. Some claim more than others but in reality even if there is a 5-10 rwhp difference you as the driver or owner would never feel it. Different cars different bolt ons different day, can all result in different dyno numbers .. don't worry as they are all good and will produce great gains in the low-mid range and also in the top of the power band (peak) also.
Pm me and let me know your time frame in the installation if you want.

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They are all around the same. Some claim more than others but in reality even if there is a 5-10 rwhp difference you as the driver or owner would never feel it. Different cars different bolt ons different day, can all result in different dyno numbers .. don't worry as they are all good and will produce great gains in the low-mid range and also in the top of the power band (peak) also.
Pm me and let me know your time frame in the installation if you want.
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Shane, Im holding off on spending the money on a Boss intake & tb because down the road i intend to install the roush stage 2 blower. holding off on the intake and tb saves me quite a bit of money in the long run and allows me to keep my engine warranty for the time being.
Gotcha. I can understand that for sure. You don't want to have to spend unnecessary cash on parts you'll sooner(ish) replace. Plus, the Bama cylinder #8 warranty is a solid rock to lean on. Can't blame you there!

Good luck with your overall build though. I really think you're going to enjoy the headers!

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Old 01-29-2014, 02:37 PM   #30
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Well the headers & x-pipe will be at my house on Friday. Probably not gonna get installed until March though . Unless I can find the time to do it before that somehow.
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I was looking at getting these headers and short x-pipe as well but is there an issue with connecting the x-pipe to the factory catback exhaust? I have an axle back but thats it. If so whats the best way to go about making everything work? Just cutting and welding or getting a new piping setup like this -> Heartthrob Mustang Flowpack Cat-to-Axle H-Pipe Kit 1029050 (11-14 GT) - Free Shipping
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To what I know they bolt straight up to the factory mid-pipe with the factory tube clamps. And that there are no fitment issues. But pm the stang8psi guy.
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