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Old 01-18-2014, 11:05 AM   #1
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Hard Water Residue In Honeycomb Grille

I live in SW Florida and we have a hard time with hard water.

When I was my Mustang the Honeycome Grille and the Grille at the bottom get hard water residue no matter what i have tried to keep it out of there.

When it dries it a white chalky looking residue.

Ive tried my gas blower after I wash it and ive tried just letting the Grille dry on its own but nothing helps.

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep this from happening?
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I live in SW Florida and we have a hard time with hard water.

When I was my Mustang the Honeycome Grille and the Grille at the bottom get hard water residue no matter what i have tried to keep it out of there.

When it dries it a white chalky looking residue.

Ive tried my gas blower after I wash it and ive tried just letting the Grille dry on its own but nothing helps.

Does anyone have any ideas how to keep this from happening?

I think griots sells a hose attachable water softener filter.
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I think griots sells a hose attachable water softener filter.
Damn!, $125.00 just for the filter, attachment and filter $145....Yikes!
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Although washing with soft water doesn't cut down on spotting, and the white on your grill I also experience because it's impossible to get all of the water out of there, even with a leave blower, it does cut down on spotting. The reason it doesn't eliminate it is although it removes minerals that cause spotting, it also adds sodium which is left behind when it dries. The best way to get a spot free wash is rinsing with reverse osmosis water, but very expensive for people to do at home. Sure, people do it in the kitchen for drinking, but the amount of water needed to rinse your car is what makes a system of this volume expensive. I spent days last summer browsing the Internet and although there are different systems available for people to use for washing cars at home, none of the solutions are cheap because of the filters and material you need to replace on a regular basis.
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Although washing with soft water doesn't cut down on spotting, and the white on your grill I also experience because it's impossible to get all of the water out of there, even with a leave blower, it does cut down on spotting. The reason it doesn't eliminate it is although it removes minerals that cause spotting, it also adds sodium which is left behind when it dries. The best way to get a spot free wash is rinsing with reverse osmosis water, but very expensive for people to do at home. Sure, people do it in the kitchen for drinking, but the amount of water needed to rinse your car is what makes a system of this volume expensive. I spent days last summer browsing the Internet and although there are different systems available for people to use for washing cars at home, none of the solutions are cheap because of the filters and material you need to replace on a regular basis.
I was just reading on google about it and it says use vinegar and water mixture but im not sure to do it before I wash or after..
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Forgot to mention, I actually have soft water plumbed out to the faucet I use for washing my cars, and although it does cut down on it, I still experience the spotting I talked about earlier.
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I was just reading on google about it and it says use vinegar and water mixture but im not sure to do it before I wash or after..
Not sure what you read, but to me it would make sense to do as a final rinse having that be the last thing that hits your car, if indeed it works.
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Forgot to mention, I actually have soft water plumbed out to the faucet I use for washing my cars, and although it does cut down on it, I still experience the spotting I talked about earlier.
The way to get around that spotting is when you do a final rinse on your Mustang is too remove the spray nozzle and let the water flow free out of the hose and rinse the entire car this way, the roof, hood, trunk and sides of the car, its called "sheeting" and then if you can use a gas blower and then RUSH and get it into the garage and towel dry it. That works well in my case but that damn residue in the grilles drives me CRAZY
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The way to get around that spotting is when you do a final rinse on your Mustang is too remove the spray nozzle and let the water flow free out of the hose and rinse the entire car this way, the roof, hood, trunk and sides of the car, its called "sheeting" and then if you can use a gas blower and then RUSH and get it into the garage and towel dry it. That works well in my case but that damn residue in the grilles drives me CRAZY
I did start sheeting last summer also, but water still sits on the car, just smaller areas. I also used the leave blower but that left spots and lines because the water that I was blowing dried so fast it left the sodium from the softened water behind immediately. All I really do with the leave blower now is blow the grill out and the wheels as best I can, but still finish off with microfiber towels, and use Meguiers Detail spray if necessary.
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I did start sheeting last summer also, but water still sits on the car, just smaller areas. I also used the leave blower but that left spots and lines because the water that I was blowing dried so fast it left the sodium from the softened water behind immediately. All I really do with the leave blower now is blow the grill out and the wheels as best I can, but still finish off with microfiber towels, and use Meguiers Detail spray if necessary.
I know what you mean, it does dry quik as hell..I also use that Meguairs Detail Spray, I like "Ice" Detail Spray better but it costs almost twice as much.

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Unfortunately, Wisconsin, so the cars are all taking their 6 month naps.
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Unfortunately, Wisconsin, so the cars are all taking their 6 month naps.
Look at this. Kinda high priced...Im gonna try vinegar and water.

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Yeah, I would tend to think since your car is pretty new and I'm sure you keep up with washing it and the only thing you are trying to take car of is what's left after washing, that is probably overkill.
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Yeah, I would tend to think since your car is pretty new and I'm sure you keep up with washing it and the only thing you are trying to take car of is what's left after washing, that is probably overkill.
Actually you cannot see the residue on my grille when I pull the mustang in the garage, I can only see it alot when I have the car in a parking lot and there is alot of light or sunlight so that you can see the grille alot better.
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Check with this adams they have an aerosol spray that covers all the hard water stains been using it for 2 years now

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hard water is calcium and magnesium based. Vinegar is a mild acid, so it will dissolve the hard water residue. I do not know about your area, but a lot of the better car washes offer a spot free rinse. This is distilled or deionized water and would be most effective. It has to be done immediately after the rinse cycle, or the hardness will dry and not come off easily. Use the vinegar to eliminate the hardness spots before washing at a car wash that does spot free rinses.
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Try this stuff, I picked a can up at Autozone or one of those auto part stores...Works well, I'm impressed with it and use it after each wash...

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Try this stuff, I picked a can up at Autozone or one of those auto part stores...Works well, I'm impressed with it and use it after each wash...

Stoner Trim Shine is a real time-saver for busy detailers!
Im gonna get some of that. I bought some water spot remover off amazon but it hasnt arrived yet and I am going to see how it works also...
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Im gonna get some of that. I bought some water spot remover off amazon but it hasnt arrived yet and I am going to see how it works also...
Cool, keep us posted.
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Anything acidic will remove the hard water deposits.
Try using some lemon juice.

The fragrance is better than vinegar...
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Anything acidic will remove the hard water deposits.
Try using some lemon juice.

The fragrance is better than vinegar...
Hey Im gonna try some of that too....Will lemon juice hurt the paint finish if it gets on it?
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Hey Im gonna try some of that too....Will lemon juice hurt the paint finish if it gets on it?
I don't think it will hurt the paint. Not sure what effect it may have on wax though. Just wipe any that happens to get on the paint, off...
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I don't think it will hurt the paint. Not sure what effect it may have on wax though. Just wipe any that happens to get on the paint, off...
Yea I was gonna put some in a spray bottle and spray it into the grille but some of that will run onto the paint on the front bumper but I will just put some wet rags around that area to soak up any of the lemon juice...
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After you get it all cleaned up, try using a good plastic/rubber friendly spray wax like Eagle One Nano Wax or Turtle wax Ice (better) will put a thin coat of water repellent wax on there. It will make it more difficult for the hard water to build up and will be easier to clean going forward.
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Also, have you ever seen the commercials for the wipenew stuff? Mother's Back to Black?
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Clear coat it. When I replaced my front bumper and grill assembly with the GT version, I shot all the black plastic with a couple coats of clear. I live in Central Florida, and also experience the "Africa hot" days of summer. The love bug seasons are also a pain. The clear coat has helped to greatly reduce any hard water spotting.

In your case, it will first require you getting the spots out first, then apply a couple of coats of clear. Try using plastic polish, the stuff used to protect plastic lenses; it's sold at auto parts stores.
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waxing the grill with a spray on wax should help, but in the end its pretty much microfibers and time.
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waxing the grill with a spray on wax should help, but in the end its pretty much microfibers and time.
Yep ive been using vinegar and water, it works but after spraying it on and letting it sit for awhile I take a microfiber towel and clean out each hole in the grille and lower grille and then when Im done I wash the car and after that Ive been using Ice detail spray in both grilles which seems to be working...Its a PITA though..
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