Help with auto 5.0!! Next mod?? - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 2011-2014 Mustang GT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 01-24-2014, 09:29 PM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mustang32Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 488
Help with auto 5.0!! Next mod??

I have a DD 2013 auto gt with magnaflow tru x no cats, slp loudmouth axleback, steeda cai, bama tune.

Would like to get 11s at the track
Best 12.47 @ 115mph

I'm looking into getting gears but some reviews have me on the fence. I was going to get 3.73s or 4.10s but now idk. Should I just get LTs instead??
Mustang32Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-24-2014, 09:36 PM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
94gtconvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ny
Region: New York
Posts: 753
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang32Bill View Post
I have a DD 2013 auto gt with magnaflow tru x no cats, slp loudmouth axleback, steeda cai, bama tune.

Would like to get 11s at the track
Best 12.47 @ 115mph

I'm looking into getting gears but some reviews have me on the fence. I was going to get 3.73s or 4.10s but now idk. Should I just get LTs instead??
Dollar for dollar the gears will get you a faster quarter mile the the LTs. If you drive your mustang as a daily driver get 3.73's but if she's a weekend warrior I would get 4.10's.
94gtconvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 04:58 AM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
Tpost08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 624
Help with auto 5.0!! Next mod??

Fastest auto hands down run 3.31 gears. Autos and manuals are completely different. 4.10 in a auto would be equivalent to running like a 4.70 in a manual. And nobody does that. 3.15's arent bad for us autos just not the best. Get a better tune and some drag radials and be done with it.
Tpost08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-25-2014, 06:30 AM   #4
Registered Member
Regular
 
Grabber Blue5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Haven
Region: Connecticut
Posts: 3,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by 94gtconvert View Post
Dollar for dollar the gears will get you a faster quarter mile the the LTs. If you drive your mustang as a daily driver get 3.73's but if she's a weekend warrior I would get 4.10's.
Gears are not the answer here, especially with the auto. He has the equivalent already of 3.55-3.60 gearing depending on tire size.

Bill, I would suggest a converter. While not the cheapest option out there you will see a significant difference over the stock stall. That and a better tune you would see a .5/10-.6/10 difference in the 1/4 mile. You can say well I don't plan on going to the track. Still on the street imagine how much faster your car will be with a converter. Gears will make your car seem faster but in reality won't as you'll be shifting into 4th gear before the 100' mark. Right now the fastest N/A auto runs a 3.31 gear. I've been 11.79 with my stock 3.15's and stock converter. It's about using the right combination of parts.
__________________
2017 Dodge Challenger T/A Redline Tri-Coat
2015 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Jazz Blue Pearl Sold
2015 GT Premium 401A Ingot Silver Sold
2011 GT Premium 401A Grabber Blue Sold
Grabber Blue5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:19 AM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mustang32Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
Gears are not the answer here, especially with the auto. He has the equivalent already of 3.55-3.60 gearing depending on tire size.

Bill, I would suggest a converter. While not the cheapest option out there you will see a significant difference over the stock stall. That and a better tune you would see a .5/10-.6/10 difference in the 1/4 mile. You can say well I don't plan on going to the track. Still on the street imagine how much faster your car will be with a converter. gears will make your car seem faster but in reality won't as you'll be shifting into 4th gear before the 100' mark. Right now the fastest N/A auto runs a 3.31 gear. I've been 11.79 with my stock 3.15's and stock converter. It's about using the right combination of parts.
You think back pressure might be why I'm losing time? How do you run yours at the track in D or S ?
Mustang32Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:35 AM   #6
Registered Member
Regular
 
Grabber Blue5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Haven
Region: Connecticut
Posts: 3,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang32Bill View Post
You think back pressure might be why I'm losing time? How do you run yours at the track in D or S ?
No. You would gain a little with longtubes but not enough to warrant the cost. I did it for the sound knowingly full well the gains would be minimal. Without knowing enough on your car/mods I can't really assess what's going on. But the Bama tune is certainly holding you back some. I don't have sport mode but even if I did I would just leave it in drive like I do now. My best times have been leaving off idle with my stock converter. What are your 60' times?
__________________
2017 Dodge Challenger T/A Redline Tri-Coat
2015 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Jazz Blue Pearl Sold
2015 GT Premium 401A Ingot Silver Sold
2011 GT Premium 401A Grabber Blue Sold
Grabber Blue5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:51 AM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
KSconvert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Wichita
Region: Kansas
Posts: 424
I'd put some money into the suspension. Upper and lower control arms along with some good tires should get you there. What are your 60' times and trap speed looking like?
__________________
2014 GT MT aka: Ruffian-
3.73 gears, Roush AB, BBR O/R x-pipe, JLT intake, BMR panhard bar, BMR lowers and brackets, FRPP 47# injectors, Lund E85 tune, SR springs, MGW shifter, 416rwhp/393rwtq
KSconvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 02:43 PM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mustang32Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
No. You would gain a little with longtubes but not enough to warrant the cost. I did it for the sound knowingly full well the gains would be minimal. Without knowing enough on your car/mods I can't really assess what's going on. But the Bama tune is certainly holding you back some. I don't have sport mode but even if I did I would just leave it in drive like I do now. My best times have been leaving off idle with my stock converter. What are your 60' times?
60 was 2.075
Mustang32Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 02:45 PM   #9
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mustang32Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
No. You would gain a little with longtubes but not enough to warrant the cost. I did it for the sound knowingly full well the gains would be minimal. Without knowing enough on your car/mods I can't really assess what's going on. But the Bama tune is certainly holding you back some. I don't have sport mode but even if I did I would just leave it in drive like I do now. My best times have been leaving off idle with my stock converter. What are your 60' times?


Click image for larger version

Name:	image-4093461167.jpg
Views:	259
Size:	230.4 KB
ID:	145736

The best out of 3 runs
Mustang32Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 03:08 PM   #10
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
Gears are not the answer here, especially with the auto. He has the equivalent already of 3.55-3.60 gearing depending on tire size.

Bill, I would suggest a converter. While not the cheapest option out there you will see a significant difference over the stock stall. That and a better tune you would see a .5/10-.6/10 difference in the 1/4 mile. You can say well I don't plan on going to the track. Still on the street imagine how much faster your car will be with a converter. Gears will make your car seem faster but in reality won't as you'll be shifting into 4th gear before the 100' mark. Right now the fastest N/A auto runs a 3.31 gear. I've been 11.79 with my stock 3.15's and stock converter. It's about using the right combination of parts.
Just trying to learn here so I'm a bit confused. If 3:73 or 4:10 gears get ones vehicle into its power band faster then why are the 5.0's running faster with 3:31 gears. I would think that having 3:73 or 4:10 gears one would accelerate faster off the line compared to 3:31 gears. I would also think having say 3:73 gears the car would continue to climb into its power band faster the whole way up compared to 3:31 gears and therefore be faster.

Not being a wise guy here by asking but just trying to learn.
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 03:15 PM   #11
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Help with auto 5.0!! Next mod??

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue View Post
Just trying to learn here so I'm a bit confused. If 3:73 of 4:10 gears get ones vehicle into its power band faster then why are the 5.0's running faster with 3:31 gears. I would think that having 3:73 or 4:10 gears one would accelerate faster off the line compared to 3:31 gears. I would also think having say 3:73 gears the car would continue to climb into its power band faster the whole way up compared to 3:31 gears.

Not being a wise guy here by asking but just trying to learn.

2013-14 5.0 automatics run fast with 3:15's or 3:31's because of the gearing in the 6R80 automatic transmission. 1st gear in the transmission is 4:17, and the gearing between the car and transmission is equal to 3:55 stock, with 3:31's in the car, it's about equal to a 3:73 in the manual. stock 3:15 gearing and high performance tires on the auto is also similar to 3:73 gearing with a manual.

Stick with the stock gearing, mod the suspension so it transfers to the ground better.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 03:17 PM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangz View Post

2013-14 5.0 automatics run fast with 3:15's or 3:31's because of the gearing in the 6R80 automatic transmission. 1st gear in the transmission is 4:17, and the gearing between the car and transmission is equal to 3:55 stock, with 3:31's in the car, it's about equal to a 3:73 in the manual. stock 3:15 gearing and high performance tires on the auto is also similar to 3:73 gearing with a manual.
So what would 3:73 gears be similar too in a 5.0 auto? 4:10's?????????
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 03:24 PM   #13
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue View Post
So what would 3:73 gears be similar too in a 5.0 auto? 4:10's?????????

Yes, I think it would be slightly more than a 4:10 ratio.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 03:54 PM   #14
Registered Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Bloomfield
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 231
Looking at your 60 foot time, and your mods, to me it seems you are either launching too hard, or your not getting your tires to hook. Best mod to start with for lower et's on your auto, would be some suspension upgrades, such as adjustable UCA, LCA, and relocation bracket. This would allow you to hook better on factory tires, and if using a sticky tire, you can then preload the converter. You're losing 2 tenths on your launch, ideally your car should be running 12.20's with that time slip, although, all the mods you have, seems to me you need some work on your tune.
DeepImpactPony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 04:43 PM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
Grabber Blue5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Haven
Region: Connecticut
Posts: 3,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue View Post
Just trying to learn here so I'm a bit confused. If 3:73 or 4:10 gears get ones vehicle into its power band faster then why are the 5.0's running faster with 3:31 gears. I would think that having 3:73 or 4:10 gears one would accelerate faster off the line compared to 3:31 gears. I would also think having say 3:73 gears the car would continue to climb into its power band faster the whole way up compared to 3:31 gears and therefore be faster.

Not being a wise guy here by asking but just trying to learn.
These cars seem to do better staying in 3rd gear crossing the traps. Anything over 3.31's and a 28" tire will cause a shift into 4th. Think about it like this. When one crosses the traps do you want to be at 7300+ at the peak of your power band or 6200 dropping out of your power band? Plus that shift into 4th itself will slow the car down.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangz View Post
2013-14 5.0 automatics run fast with 3:15's or 3:31's because of the gearing in the 6R80 automatic transmission. 1st gear in the transmission is 4:17, and the gearing between the car and transmission is equal to 3:55 stock, with 3:31's in the car, it's about equal to a 3:73 in the manual. stock 3:15 gearing and high performance tires on the auto is also similar to 3:73 gearing with a manual.

Stick with the stock gearing, mod the suspension so it transfers to the ground better.
Yep


Consider these first gear ratios:

C4 - 2.46
4R70W - 2.84
6R80 - 4.17

Take the 4.17 and multiply it by the 3.31, you get 13.8 for an overall gear ratio in 1st. Now take that 13.8 and divide it by the first gear ratios of the other transmissions and this tells you what axle ratio would give you the equivalent with those transmissions:

C4 - 5.61
4R70W - 4.86

So, although 3.31 "sounds like" not much gear, you can see that in the end, it is quite a bit of gear with the 6R80.

We can do the same with the second gear ratios:

6R80 - 2.34
C4 - 1.46
4R70W - 1.55

That puts the 6R80/3.31 at 7.75, which is like a 4R70W with a 5.00 axle, or a C4 with a 5.31 axle.

And finally 3rd gear, where the 6R80 is 1.52*3.31=5.03, the others are 1 to 1, so 5.03 would be the equivalent axle there.


You'd all agree that an axle in the 5.00 range is a lot of gear, well, we're doing exactly the same thing with the 3.31/6R80, we just have 3 more gears to go after that.


Going the other way, a 4.10/6R80 in first gear is like having a C4 with a 6.95 gear, or a 4R70W with a 6.02 gear. You can see why hooking it is a problem.
__________________
2017 Dodge Challenger T/A Redline Tri-Coat
2015 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Jazz Blue Pearl Sold
2015 GT Premium 401A Ingot Silver Sold
2011 GT Premium 401A Grabber Blue Sold
Grabber Blue5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 04:56 PM   #16
Registered Member
Regular
 
Mustang32Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
These cars seem to do better staying in 3rd gear crossing the traps. Anything over 3.31's and a 28" tire will cause a shift into 4th. Think about it like this. When one crosses the traps do you want to be at 7300+ at the peak of your power band or 6200 dropping out of your power band? Plus that shift into 4th itself will slow the car down.

Yep

Consider these first gear ratios:

C4 - 2.46
4R70W - 2.84
6R80 - 4.17

Take the 4.17 and multiply it by the 3.31, you get 13.8 for an overall gear ratio in 1st. Now take that 13.8 and divide it by the first gear ratios of the other transmissions and this tells you what axle ratio would give you the equivalent with those transmissions:

C4 - 5.61
4R70W - 4.86

So, although 3.31 "sounds like" not much gear, you can see that in the end, it is quite a bit of gear with the 6R80.

We can do the same with the second gear ratios:

6R80 - 2.34
C4 - 1.46
4R70W - 1.55

That puts the 6R80/3.31 at 7.75, which is like a 4R70W with a 5.00 axle, or a C4 with a 5.31 axle.

And finally 3rd gear, where the 6R80 is 1.52*3.31=5.03, the others are 1 to 1, so 5.03 would be the equivalent axle there.

You'd all agree that an axle in the 5.00 range is a lot of gear, well, we're doing exactly the same thing with the 3.31/6R80, we just have 3 more gears to go after that.

Going the other way, a 4.10/6R80 in first gear is like having a C4 with a 6.95 gear, or a 4R70W with a 6.02 gear. You can see why hooking it is a problem.
Yeah I think the bama tune is hurting me... I launch at 1200rpm and hook no spin at all, it just seems to be a dog off the line and it shouldn't be. It doesn't start eating until halfway down the track. My buddy cobra smokes me off the line but I always catch him half way down the track and pass him.
Mustang32Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 05:14 PM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
Grabber Blue5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Haven
Region: Connecticut
Posts: 3,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustang32Bill View Post
Yeah I think the bama tune is hurting me... I launch at 1200rpm and hook no spin at all, it just seems to be a dog off the line and it shouldn't be. It doesn't start eating until halfway down the track. My buddy cobra smokes me off the line but I always catch him half way down the track and pass him.
So your able to hook then? What tire are you running? Getting these cars off the line is a byproduct of the stock converter which I believe stalls around 1800. A Circle D 4C I think is around 3600-3700.
__________________
2017 Dodge Challenger T/A Redline Tri-Coat
2015 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Jazz Blue Pearl Sold
2015 GT Premium 401A Ingot Silver Sold
2011 GT Premium 401A Grabber Blue Sold
Grabber Blue5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 05:51 PM   #18
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
So your able to hook then? What tire are you running? Getting these cars off the line is a byproduct of the stock converter which I believe stalls around 1800. A Circle D 4C I think is around 3600-3700.
So is the issue with 3:73 gears and the 5.0 very difficult to hook up the tires to the street. I did test drive an automatic 2013 5.0 that had 3:15 gears and the off line acceleration was poor and what I considered disappointing. I chalked it up to the 3:15 gears and assumed 3:55 or 3:73 gears would be a world of difference.
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 05:56 PM   #19
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Help with auto 5.0!! Next mod??

With the gearing between a 3:15 auto and the 6R80 automatic in the 13-14's , it's basically a 3:55 ratio, get 3:31's at most, otherwise, it's gonna be a nightmare MPG wise, and hooking up.

I still think you would be better with suspension mods.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:13 PM   #20
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangz View Post
With the gearing between a 3:15 auto and the 6R80 automatic in the 13-14's , it's basically a 3:55 ratio, get 3:31's at most, otherwise, it's gonna be a nightmare MPG wise, and hooking up.

I still think you would be better with suspension mods.
It must be the 390 torque combined with the 6R80 automatic because my 11 v6 has the same 6R80 , I have 3:73 gears and no issues hooking up on my factory tires. Of course I have 100 torque less than a 5.0 which may have a lot to do with it. Lol
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:13 PM   #21
Registered Member
Regular
 
Grabber Blue5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Haven
Region: Connecticut
Posts: 3,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue View Post
So is the issue with 3:73 gears and the 5.0 very difficult to hook up the tires to the street. I did test drive an automatic 2013 5.0 that had 3:15 gears and the off line acceleration was poor and what I considered disappointing. I chalked it up to the 3:15 gears and assumed 3:55 or 3:73 gears would be a world of difference.
The issue with 3.73's for one is hooking up and at the strip will have the car shifting into 4th before the stripe. These cars especially the autos need a tune so the one that you test drove being stock was a bad example. Before my car was tuned it felt like a dog off the line as well but after a tune on street tires it would just spin them at will. When you do the math the auto/3.15's are very similar to the manual/3.55's. Ford used 3.15's in the auto because of the aggressive gearing that the 6R80's have.
__________________
2017 Dodge Challenger T/A Redline Tri-Coat
2015 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Jazz Blue Pearl Sold
2015 GT Premium 401A Ingot Silver Sold
2011 GT Premium 401A Grabber Blue Sold
Grabber Blue5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:25 PM   #22
Registered Member
Regular
 
Grabber Blue5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Haven
Region: Connecticut
Posts: 3,510
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue View Post
It must be the 390 torque combined with the 6R80 automatic because my 11 v6 has the same 6R80 , I have 3:73 gears and no issues hooking up on my factory tires. Of course I have 100 torque less than a 5.0 which may have a lot to do with it. Lol
Your 6R80 is not exactly the same as the ones that come in the GT's. There are a few differences including the converter.
__________________
2017 Dodge Challenger T/A Redline Tri-Coat
2015 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Jazz Blue Pearl Sold
2015 GT Premium 401A Ingot Silver Sold
2011 GT Premium 401A Grabber Blue Sold
Grabber Blue5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:28 PM   #23
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grabber Blue5.0 View Post
Your 6R80 is not exactly the same as the ones that come in the GT's. There are a few differences including the converter.
Oh, I didn't know that. So the 3.7 and 5.0 have slightly different 6R80 transmissions. So, are majority 5.0 guys going 3:31 gears over any other gear ratio?
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:31 PM   #24
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue View Post
Oh, I didn't know that. So the 3.7 and 5.0 have slightly different 6R80 transmissions. So, are majority 5.0 guys going 3:31 gears over any other gear ratio?

Usually auto's keep the stock gearing or go up to 3:31's.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:40 PM   #25
Registered Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Bloomfield
Region: New Jersey
Posts: 231
You get an optimal tune with that auto, it becomes a whole different animal. My car will spin 1st, and breaks loose on second shift , and chirp 3rd, on street. Originally I would use the sport mode after I got tune, to help with hooking at track, but hurt my et some, after installing the UCA and LCA, and Relocation bracket, I was able to shut down the advancetrac completely, and can consistently get low 1.90 sixties, launching from idle. My next step is converter, and a new tune for the converter, to see what that gains me, before any other mods.
DeepImpactPony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:44 PM   #26
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangz View Post

Usually auto's keep the stock gearing or go up to 3:31's.
So unlike us 3.7 guys who seem to be going 3:73 and 4:10 gearing , the 5.0 guys are majority going 3:31 for auto. Interesting. The things you learn. Thanks guys.
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:47 PM   #27
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
The 3.7's need better gears to try and keep up with us... Haha.

Anyways, with the torque the 5.0's have, and the factory car and transmission gearing, 3:73's+ are ridiculous for a DD, great for a Drag strip car. A tuned auto with 3:15, or 3:31 gears are great.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:47 PM   #28
Registered Member
Regular
 
86custom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Central Louisiana
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 221
If I had an auto and the money. I would get suspension first , then new tune, driveshaft, drag tires, torque converter. It don't have to be in that order.
__________________
2011 Gt, Mt-82, C&L cai, SSW catback
Bama can tune, gutted cats
Godspeed wheels 20x8 up front 20x10 on rear
Raxiom switchback turn signals, Black billet grill
Tinted tail lights and markers
86custom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 06:48 PM   #29
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Work on suspension to get more power to the ground, the factory suspension is crap in my opinion.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 08:30 PM   #30
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Winter Haven
Region: Florida
Posts: 407
To get into the 11's you will need rear suspension and a supercharger and maybe even stickier tires.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Mustang Evolution mobile app
chefron50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:03 PM   #31
Registered Member
Regular
 
Rapinator126's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 9,269
Quote:
Originally Posted by chefron50 View Post
To get into the 11's you will need rear suspension and a supercharger and maybe even stickier tires.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Wrong. You do not need a supercharger to hit 11's. Good try.

Sent from my HTC One using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Rapinator126 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:11 PM   #32
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapinator126 View Post
Wrong. You do not need a supercharger to hit 11's. Good try.

Sent from my HTC One using Mustang Evolution mobile app

That's what I was thinking, maybe for the 10's, but not the 11's. Full bolt ons, suspension, and a tune should probably give you 11's.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:34 PM   #33
Registered Member
Regular
 
Rapinator126's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 9,269


Revolution automotives car. Full exhaust/ CAI / Tune.

Sent from my HTC One using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Rapinator126 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:35 PM   #34
Registered Member
Regular
 
Rapinator126's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Texas
Posts: 9,269
Oh and dont think a bama tune will cut it either bc it wont

Sent from my HTC One using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Rapinator126 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2014, 09:42 PM   #35
Registered Member
Regular
 
2011 Kona Blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Region: Maryland
Posts: 7,653
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustangz View Post
The 3.7's need better gears to try and keep up with us... Haha.

Anyways, with the torque the 5.0's have, and the factory car and transmission gearing, 3:73's+ are ridiculous for a DD, great for a Drag strip car. A tuned auto with 3:15, or 3:31 gears are great.
Ain't that the truth brother. Us 3.7 guys need all the help we can get for down low power. Lol. We need some off the line awesome torque and 3:73 or 4:10 gears help us accomplish that. The gears help us cheat to get fake torque. Lmao
2011 Kona Blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 2011-2014 Mustang GT

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Watch 5.0 Magazine test AmericanMuscle's 2011 V6! AMDanBailer 2011-2014 V6 Mustang 0 10-19-2011 01:47 PM
2011 V6 versus 2012 GT 5.0 avengnd General Mustang Discussion 6 09-01-2011 05:49 AM
What is the H O mean in a 5.0 crkmonzo 1979-1995 Mustang GT 16 08-30-2011 09:34 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



02:56 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.