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Old 02-06-2014, 09:26 AM   #1
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Can I cut them off my 12 without throwing a code? I wanna get louder.
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Can I cut them off my 12 without throwing a code? I wanna get louder.
Yes. You can remove the resonators without throwing a code. A lot of guys remove the resonators to open up the exhaust and free up some power. It's said that the removal of the resonators will free up about 5-7 HP. However, I've never seen a Dyno graph. That's just the chatter around the forums.

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Yes. You can remove the resonators without throwing a code. A lot of guys remove the resonators to open up the exhaust and free up some power. It's said that the removal of the resonators will free up about 5-7 HP. However, I've never seen a Dyno graph. That's just the chatter around the forums.

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That's what I needed to hear. Thanks Dan
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Any idea on what to expect cost wise?
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Res delete prob around 70 bucks maybe less
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That's what I needed to hear. Thanks Dan
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Any idea on what to expect cost wise?
You're welcome! It's a very simple job for any muffler shop. I would assume under $100 bucks to do this job. I'm thinking about doing it myself. As if my Long Tubes, O/R X-Pipe and Corsa Extreme aren't already loud enough !

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Any of the catbacks out there eliminate the resonators or you can by the over the axle pipes separately so you don't have to cut up your stock exhaust.
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Cost me 40 to delete and replace with a 3in straight pipe
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I got a resonator delete done at a muffler shop for 80 and they added pipe and it did free up some giddy up but I can't say how much but u can feel alittle difference for sure

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I have catbacks too on my GT
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you guys that have did this, did it make it sound better with the factory mufflers? I cant hear my car at all but everyone else that hears it on the outside said it sounds good. These cars are insulated very good. Could someone post a video of just the resonators cut off with factory mufflers?
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I have a full muffler and resonator delete. Just converters in the front for for emissions

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Give me a few hrs I'll do it after I wake up all the way,lol
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I have catbacks too on my GT
If you had a catback you wouldn't have needed to cut up your over the axle pipes.
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I have a full muffler and resonator delete. Just converters in the front for for emissions

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Give me a few hrs I'll do it after I wake up all the way,lol

I don't think they did that they just removed my resonators. I didn't have mufflers on when I bought the car. He cut those off and put straight pipe in and welded my tips back on.
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Removing resos won't free up jack squat except a little more noise. These cars are NOT insulated well. In fact the S197 is a bit of a kettle drum for transmitting nvh to the cabin. Stock they are quiet because the mufflers are in the back and not under your *** like in an older car. Exhaust has plenty of time to slow down, cool off and chill in the muffler body and sound attenuation is well behind your ears anyway.

Also, this engine is a very different noise maker than an iron, pushrod, wedge head 5.0 of the past. Different firing order, completely different head design, a focus on high rpm. This makes the thing kinda soft, sound wise, down low compared to the steam engines of old that gasped their last at barely over 5000 rpm.
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It does absolutely free up hp. As stated, 5-7hp, nothing huge, but I have seen dyno graphs from people that put on over axle pipes. Granted it's mostly due to mandrel bent and slightly larger piping more than the actual resonator delete, but it does give you a few extra ponies. 5-7hp isn't gonna be anything noticeable, but every little bit helps!
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Removing resos won't free up jack squat except a little more noise. These cars are NOT insulated well. In fact the S197 is a bit of a kettle drum for transmitting nvh to the cabin. Stock they are quiet because the mufflers are in the back and not under your *** like in an older car. Exhaust has plenty of time to slow down, cool off and chill in the muffler body and sound attenuation is well behind your ears anyway.

Also, this engine is a very different noise maker than an iron, pushrod, wedge head 5.0 of the past. Different firing order, completely different head design, a focus on high rpm. This makes the thing kinda soft, sound wise, down low compared to the steam engines of old that gasped their last at barely over 5000 rpm.
Maybe yours isn't insulated well but mine is. You can roll up the window and outside noise is gone.
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5-7 horse is barely accurately and repeatably measurable on a dyno on a 400+ horsepower car, and like you say, the benefit is from the mandrel bending of OTA pipes that don't crush down in the bends, not the cutting of resos. All resos do is slow down the exhaust flow slightly to attenuate particular frequencies of sound. For this slowing to have any effect on exhaust flow, you have to be seriously choked up somewhere else in the system and it isn't.

I have a premium GT. You want evidence of how well this chassis shifts noise to the cab? Look at the gargantuan rubber bushes with huge air holes in them to tame the NVH, motor mounts, shifter box and crossmember bushing, rear axle, control arms, sway bar, etc.. You tighten anything up here and all of a sudden the car is full of grumbles, rumbles, resonance, vibrations and whines.
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I have a 2013 boss and ford deleted the cabin insulation to save weight

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Yes. You can remove the resonators without throwing a code. A lot of guys remove the resonators to open up the exhaust and free up some power. It's said that the removal of the resonators will free up about 5-7 HP. However, I've never seen a Dyno graph. That's just the chatter around the forums.

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Yeah, I did that and added a 91 octane race tune and gained a solid 7 rwhp.


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I added a 91 octane tune and picked up 27 horsepower at the flywheel...without chopping the resos. Point being, the tune is where the gain was, not in the resonators. These comments here are non sequiturs that have significant uncontrolled variables affecting the veracity of the conclusions drawn. Either it's a full OTA pipe change or a tune that went on at the same time or it's no dyno sheet proof, just hearsay from the web.

People can do what they want but, I expect a reasonable standard of evaluating evidence, at least for myself. I don't feel that's unfair to ask since, people are looking for guidance from what people say here.
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I'm not worried about the HP gains. I know they will be minimal if any at all. I just want the car louder.
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Well, that will sure happen....
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They are also designed to reduce drone, so be careful what you wish for.
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They are also designed to reduce drone, so be careful what you wish for.
I had a lot of drone in my 2000 gt and still have a good amount with my SLP loudmouths. Doesn't really bother me too much.
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Yeah, I did that and added a 91 octane race tune and gained a solid 7 rwhp.
That's pretty awesome! I am definitely going to do this. From what I've read it really only cost $40-60 bucks to get them cut out. That has to be the cheapest 7 RWHP out there!

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OK folks, this is really starting to piss me off. I have called multiple shops to include Competition Auto who refused to do it, Fastlane Motorsports who wanted $285 to do it, and a few others who had no clue what I was talking about. Are resonators called something else? It is baffling to me how many performance exhaust shops and mustang performance shops here in nc won't do it or don't know what I'm talking about. I didn't think removing the resonators was illegal. Has anyone had them removed in NC or know of a shop around the Fayetteville area that will?
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OK folks, this is really starting to piss me off. I have called multiple shops to include Competition Auto who refused to do it, Fastlane Motorsports who wanted $285 to do it, and a few others who had no clue what I was talking about. Are resonators called something else? It is baffling to me how many performance exhaust shops and mustang performance shops here in nc won't do it or don't know what I'm talking about. I didn't think removing the resonators was illegal. Has anyone had them removed in NC or know of a shop around the Fayetteville area that will?

I'm not gonna lie when I first called around they did that to me here in GA then I just took it to Midas and they wanted 350 for it ( suburbs) then I went to a muffler shop and told them I wanted them off and they charged me 80 to do it all. It's not illegal most people are Dikks on the phone try and go to a muffler shop and let them try and lie or play you to your face after you tell them how much you know it should be done for. I took mine back to Midas to show them how stupid they were for trying to rip me off by pulling in their parking lot and doing some high Revs so they could hear what they couldn't do without trying to swerve me like I was dumb.
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OK folks, this is really starting to piss me off. I have called multiple shops to include Competition Auto who refused to do it, Fastlane Motorsports who wanted $285 to do it, and a few others who had no clue what I was talking about. Are resonators called something else? It is baffling to me how many performance exhaust shops and mustang performance shops here in nc won't do it or don't know what I'm talking about. I didn't think removing the resonators was illegal. Has anyone had them removed in NC or know of a shop around the Fayetteville area that will?
Just tell them u want a piece of ur exhaust pipe cut off & a new piece of pipe welded in place. Basically 4 cuts & 4 welds! Also going in & actually showing them might help too! Anything over $80 is a rip off IMO!
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Just tell them u want a piece of ur exhaust pipe cut off & a new piece of pipe welded in place. Basically 4 cuts & 4 welds! Also going in & actually showing them might help too! Anything over $80 is a rip off IMO!
That's a good idea. I'm going to try that. Thanks.
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That's pretty awesome! I am definitely going to do this. From what I've read it really only cost $40-60 bucks to get them cut out. That has to be the cheapest 7 RWHP out there!

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By the sails of the Beagle, Dan, that 7 horsepower cost Compstall probably about $400 bucks in tuner, tune and resos cut out. How is that the cheapest 7 horsepower out there? Frankly, that's a pretty soft performance for adding a tune.

For all you choppers out there, make sure your shop carefully sets up both ends of your now-cut OTA pipes or you might end up with some things banging on other things under there.
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That's pretty awesome! I am definitely going to do this. From what I've read it really only cost $40-60 bucks to get them cut out. That has to be the cheapest 7 RWHP out there!

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....I was implying the resonator delete, AND a Bama tuner with a 91 race tune gave me the 7 hp Dan. I never put any credit with the resonator delete because its mainly a sound thing.

Ive tried to get a hold of you to get the ball rolling on this datalog thing, as I am new to it. The thought has crossed my mind to just go ahead and throw on my other parts (302 intake and CAI) but that would open up the variables even more and make it more difficult to pin down what could be tweaked with the tune.

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it's going to sound harsh but that is a pathetic performance for a supposedly custom "19-question" tune. I'd be asking some pretty hard questions if that's the best AM could do for you.
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You'll want to stay away from big race shops or chain service shops. I plan on going to a "good ol' boy" muffler shop. I used them back in high school to put a cutout on my Camaro's exhaust. Over the phone they told me $40. I got there, took them about 20 minutes to do the 2 cuts and 2 welds. They called me out and told me it was done, I handed them $40 and they immediately handed it back to me and said "just rev it up a bit before you go."

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I hear that. I teach auto shop and nothing's cooler than a little easy fangle that makes a kid happier with his rough-around-the edges ride.
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