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Old 03-06-2014, 11:26 AM   #1
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Intake?

I've got a 2011 5.0 and im wanting to know what y'all think the best intake is and for a decent price? And if y'all know of anybody trying to get rid of one I'd like to know. Thanks
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Your car came with a CAI. You will not improve on it.
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Yeah I didn't know it I would get anything more out of a aftermarket or not.
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Nope. Just get a GOOD tune.
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Well do u think I should Dino or get a hand held? I know the Dino is goin to cost more... I hope there no stupid questions on here... Still new and learning as I go....
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Most "cold air intakes" sold aftermarket just add a little sound and lot of show. No real horsepower gains come from adding JUST a CAI. A good tune will be money better spent. I agree with the above ^^
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Dyno tunes are a thing of the past. A good tune on a SCT handheld is the way to go.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:38 AM   #8
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Boss 302 intake and a cai and bama tuner should run you about 1200$ that's what I have and it's well worth it for the price
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Meh on the CAI...ya don't need it. Get a CJ intake and a good tune if you want to start upgrading your engine.
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Boss 302 intake and a cai and bama tuner should run you about 1200$ that's what I have and it's well worth it for the price

Just my opinion, but to the op regarding the 302 intake and CAI, you may actually get better track times with the stock manifold and air box. The 302 manifold produces power in the higher rpm ranges hence why it is on the actually boss because it can rev higher safely as opposed to the normal 5.0. And since 90 percent of the time in a 5.0 you probably won't be at the high enough rpm range to see benefits and you might actually lose some low end. In regards to the CAI because it is open unlike the stock air box your engine will actually take in more hot air from the engine bay then the stock air box would. Not saying that they don't look super sexy when paired together, or you may see gains, however it may not be worth it to most. Just putting this info out there.
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Your car came with a CAI. You will not improve on it.
May want to check this out.

2011 GT JLT CAI Dyno Results vs. K&N Filter - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum

Using a 93 oct tune, he gained about 15 hp with the cai.
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2011 GT JLT CAI Dyno Results vs. K&N Filter - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum

Using a 93 oct tune, he gained about 15 hp with the cai.

Yes well it looks like he has a full aftermarket exhaust setup which in conjunction with a CAI will usually provide gains, however it says gained 15 hp as in comparison with the K&N air filter. It has been shown that the K&N filter has actually caused 2-3 Hp losses... Also, it doesn't say if the dyno was hood up or hood down, or inside or outside. This will make a difference and this is how companies can make the claims about gains. With the hood up the intake will suck in pure cold air since it is open and there is no hood blocking airflow. Usually your car will be outside with the hood down unless you just like to roll with the hood up... I see where your going with this and I'm not trying to be a d*ck, just trying to break common misconceptions.
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The debate has become like global warming LOL. Everyone just spews out what they have heard so it takes a life of its own. You WILL have some gains when you create a less obstructive intake. We love the JLT cold air intake. Looks great, sounds great and works great. Find one on craigslist, ebay or one of the many forum Buy/Sell areas and save some $.
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I got a good used Steeda CAI for $200

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Yes well it looks like he has a full aftermarket exhaust setup which in conjunction with a CAI will usually provide gains, however it says gained 15 hp as in comparison with the K&N air filter. It has been shown that the K&N filter has actually caused 2-3 Hp losses... Also, it doesn't say if the dyno was hood up or hood down, or inside or outside. This will make a difference and this is how companies can make the claims about gains. With the hood up the intake will suck in pure cold air since it is open and there is no hood blocking airflow. Usually your car will be outside with the hood down unless you just like to roll with the hood up... I see where your going with this and I'm not trying to be a d*ck, just trying to break common misconceptions.
The opening in the grill for the airbox is more than enough air for the cai, the hood being open will not matter. Not to mention its not airtight like the stock box. Why do we know this? Because thats all the stock box has to work with, and it flows fairly well.

This test shows two cars with matching mods, the only difference being the cai, and it had a moderate increase in hp. Lets say your right about the k&n filter, thats still 12-13 hp for $300. Thats not bad, and it greatly improves the looks of the engine bay imo.

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2011 GT JLT CAI Dyno Results vs. K&N Filter - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum

Using a 93 oct tune, he gained about 15 hp with the cai.
With the hood open and a giant fan blowing on it? Sorry but that's where everyone falls victim to these tests. Back to back testing at the track has shown zero gain.
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Back to back testing at the track has shown zero gain
LOL, yeah, throw a "DRIVER MOD" into the equation, c'mon Scott that brings in so many variables.
There is just as many good tests out there by INDIVIDUALS that show a modest gain in HP with the addition of a CAI. The stock box is fine and is a decent CAI, however, if you bench test the two, flow is significantly better with a 4" CAI tube and filter that has a larger surface area than the smaller tube with smaller paper filter.
Personally, I like the sound a LOT better. We spend a lot of money on changing the sound of cars and this is a relatively good way to get a better sound from the engine bay. $200-300 for mild HP gain, better sound and better looks.
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The debate continues. I still go with the Ford engineers on this one; the stock air box flows great, and unless you are purchasing a tune, larger throttle body and perhaps exhaust, the money spent on a CAI alone will not net you much for the money (unless looks and sound are what you are also after).

JMoney makes an excellent point. The Boss 302 intake makes more power in the upper RPM range. You'd add this only if you are looking to run the 5.0 in that range. I have to admit though, it's a great looking intake in the engine compartment of a 5.0, but if it's performance in the lower range, then its not the best choice.

If every ounce of performance is what you are after, then a CAI with a tuner/tune is going to bein your list of mods.
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LOL, yeah, throw a "DRIVER MOD" into the equation, c'mon Scott that brings in so many variables.
There is just as many good tests out there by INDIVIDUALS that show a modest gain in HP with the addition of a CAI.
With an auto you eliminate the driver mod for the most part.

The only tests out there are with the hood open and a huge fan blowing on it. Not exactly real world testing now is it? And the testing is from the manufacturers of said intake so the numbers are easily "skewed".
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LOL, yeah, throw a "DRIVER MOD" into the equation, c'mon Scott that brings in so many variables.
There is just as many good tests out there by INDIVIDUALS that show a modest gain in HP with the addition of a CAI. /QUOTE]

With an auto you eliminate the driver mod for the most part.

The only tests out there are with the hood open and a huge fan blowing on it. Not exactly real world testing now is it? And the testing is from the manufacturers of said intake so the numbers are easily "skewed".
The link I posted was from an individual, not a manufacturer. It doesn't matter if the hood is up, down, or sideways. Its not airtight by anymeans, plenty of space for air to come in.

Theres a reason you need a tune with most cai's, its sucking in more air than the maf can handle. And what happens when you get more air? The engine makes more power.

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Theres a reason you need a tune with most cai's, its sucking in more air than the maf can handle. And what happens when you get more air? The engine makes more power.
Exactly

"Huge fan blowing on it" is for cooling the motor & air, not allowing it to "breath" flow better. Huge fan would benefit BOTH stock box and CAI. Cooler temps cooler air = more HP

A good test that would be pretty simple would be to compare inlet air temps on a stock box in normal highway driving vs inlet air temps on a CAI in the same driving conditions. Another variable along with flow for HP gains
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Rather than buying a CAI...spend the same $$ for an offroad X or H pipe. That should net 12-15 true rwhp for the same money. Combined with a good tune it should total 40-45 rwhp. You will feel that in your butt dyno...👍
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The reason most CAI require a tune because the MAF is bigger than stock. Has nothing to do with airflow.
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The link I posted was from an individual, not a manufacturer. It doesn't matter if the hood is up, down, or sideways. Its not airtight by anymeans, plenty of space for air to come in.

Theres a reason you need a tune with most cai's, its sucking in more air than the maf can handle. And what happens when you get more air? The engine makes more power.

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That link is almost four years old. Plus the numbers were in standard not SAE. BIG difference.
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The reason most CAI require a tune because the MAF is bigger than stock. Has nothing to do with airflow.
LOL what? The MAF is bigger?
Do you understand fluid mechanics? There is a reason our cars have mass flow sensors instead of volumetric sensors.
Density, temperature and flow are calculated from readings from the MAF sensor so it can determine the quantity of intake air in each piston stroke.You need a tune, because the density, pressure and volume as well as temperature changes with the addition of the larger tube type CAI.
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Intake?

Agree with Ravnus get an off road x or h and get actual gains.
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Agree with Ravnus get an off road x or h and get actual gains.
For what its worth I went with off road H pipe for two reasons. Sound I like better, and from all the research i did the H is better in lower RPM range where the X is better in higher RPM. Sound was main thing for the H but as a DD I usually don't hit the 5,000+ RPM range (unless having some stop light fun, lol). regardless they really are pretty similar so listen to some sound clips to decide.
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Yes but the engine can only take in so much air, which the stock air box can do. Also the hood makes a huge difference the CAI is open on the top and with no sheet of metal blocking any airflow that thing will make a lot more power than it would if it was blocked off by a sheet of metal (hood).
You are barking out the side of your neck. The engine's air intake is limited through its restrictions. (I can list them if you would like) Your hood theory is ridicules. Do you really think that there is a "seal" of the hood to the top of the CAI that would restrict flow? Really? The hood being up or down during dyno pulls has more to do with engine and inlet air temps, NOT AIRFLOW.
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You are barking out the side of your neck. The engine's air intake is limited through its restrictions. (I can list them if you would like) Your hood theory is ridicules. Do you really think that there is a "seal" of the hood to the top of the CAI that would restrict flow? Really? The hood being up or down during dyno pulls has more to do with engine and inlet air temps, NOT AIRFLOW.

With a CAI there is no cover covering the filter right? Now I also believe that most hoods are solid metal and don't allow air through right? Last time I checked air can't go through a hood, so what would make more power an air filter with no obstacles in the way or an air filter blocked off by a hood? Now inlet air temps , with the CAI being open wouldn't that also bring in the warm air in the engine bay or does it magically bring in cold air through the hood? Sure it can get through around the sides of the hood but how much air is that?
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I only went with an intake for cosmetics and sound. Do yourself a favor and get one with a completely sealed box. My inlet temps never waiver more than 2 degrees higher than outside temperature even at idle.
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Since darker colors supposedly absorb more heat, do white 5.0's make more power in the summer time than black ones?

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There is your problem. I am not going to argue this any more LOL. Your solid metal hood theory and flow

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Only if you have a big *** white fan blowing air over silver streamers at it
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The reason most CAI require a tune because the MAF is bigger than stock. Has nothing to do with airflow.
Uh....have you ever seen a cai. You use the same maf. The bigger cai allows more air and thus has to be adjusted. The more power the car makes the more gains you will see with a cai. If you do a tune and o/r midpipe, you can easily get 15hp from a cai. And it doesnt matter if the dyno test is 4 yrs old. 15 hp is 15hp.

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Old 03-14-2014, 04:53 PM   #34
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Only if you have a big *** white fan blowing air over silver streamers at it[/QUOTE]

Do they have High performance streamers? I'd like to upgrade them if possible.
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Of course they make them. I prefer the chrome Mylar ones. Make sure you secure them with 200mph tape. Don't be fooled by those cheap Chinese ones you see flapping in the air conditioner stores.
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