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Old 03-09-2014, 03:41 AM   #1
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X-pipe question

Looking for one that has the removable sections up front so I can slap the stock cats in when it's emissions time.

Been digging around and found that JBA has what I want for around $320. Any others out there built like this also? It appears the Pypes x-pipe may also be built the same, but unsure from what I've seen due to the photos being a bit vague.

This is for stock headers btw...

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I could figure out why H-pipes were so much more than the X pipe.
I was told they are the same except for tone.
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I did see the BBK'S as well. Also, I found that JBA makes both a 2.75" and a 3" X-pipe kit. Called Stage 3 Motorsports today and they confirmed the 3" kit is if you have a complete 3" exhaust beyond the factory h-pipe. I will be buying the 3" kit anyway to prepare for that down the road and just modify the factory stuff with a couple reducers for now.

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Yep, and the JBA cat deletes are 3"

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Sorry I did not mean to sound like a smarta**. I was suggesting that the 3" X might not connect to the stock size cats. I thought you wanted to be able to put the stock cats back in. If it works awsome! That might be my rout. I was given BBK deletes for my stock H pipe. Its what I have for now and I want to get an X with the option of stock cats.

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Ahhh I see what yer sayin now. Hmmm, have to think about this. Maybe I need to just stick with the 2.75"?


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Or....just have the ends of the stock cat pipes modded to fit the 3" X!

Several years ago when I had my Camaro (4th Gen), a buddy gave me a blown out stock cat converter. I cut the ends off the blown one and shoved a 3" straight pipe down it then welded a 3-point flange on it and also welded another 3-point on the good cat. Made sure both cats were the same length and I was able to swap them out when it was time for emissions. Worked great.


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The stock cats ate the ones they will be looking at so go easy on modifying them. Let me know what you come up with. I'm in the market as well...

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Looking for one that has the removable sections up front so I can slap the stock cats in when it's emissions time.

Been digging around and found that JBA has what I want for around $320. Any others out there built like this also? It appears the Pypes x-pipe may also be built the same, but unsure from what I've seen due to the photos being a bit vague.

This is for stock headers btw...

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Hey,

I am surprised more manufacturers don't offer this option. These set ups really give the customer flexibility with their builds and allows them to keep the same mid pipe if they need to add cats a future time.

To clarify, the Pypes X pipe also does in fact have these removable tubes to give you the option as well. Between these systems, I would go with the Pypes. I have a Pypes X pipe on my 11 GT and couldn't be more please with it. I am always surprised in the quality you get for the price they charge.

I hope this helps, and if you have any further questions feel free to get in touch. Good Luck!
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I ordered the Pypes X-pipe.

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I ordered the Pypes X-pipe.

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My biggest concern is the car sounding like a top fuel dragster. I can see stepping back to some GT 500 mufflers down the road. Anyone wanna trade theirs for a pair of Roush's?

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I'm interested in your impression of the sound of the GT500 mufflers with the off-road set up. Also, if you install it yourself, let me know if you find it easy to connect the new X to the stock system. Happy wrenching!
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My biggest concern is the car sounding like a top fuel dragster. I can see stepping back to some GT 500 mufflers down the road. Anyone wanna trade theirs for a pair of Roush's?

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Here is what GT500 quads sound like with an off road x. Roush's will def be louder with a little more rasp & pop.
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I thought I would let you know I just installed the Pypes x mid pipe. It's a perfect fit from the stock cats to stock axle back. I did have a little trouble with a small leak at the cat connection but I think I have it stopped. Sounds slightly louder at idle but really screams at wot. You won't b disappointed . The worst part of install was ball clamps at the cats, the bolt is on the upper side, very difficult to get loose. I did not use the cat delete tubes yet, I'm waiting to get a tuner..still made a diff in performance !
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Is that with the resonaters?? Sounds awsome. I cant wait to get the time to change mine out. Maybe I should get off my computer....Hmmmm
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No resonators. 3" Off Road X Pipe into 3" over axle pipes all the way into the GT500 Quads.
I had a shop make new 3" pipes on the motor side of the mufflers to receive the 3" OA pipes.
Our goal with this car is big in /big out to get a deeper sound and allow for a Paxton down the road.
With the stock over axle pipes inc resonators, it will be a touch higher tone and no rasp at all and a little quieter. I still like the sound of the GT500 with Off Road pipes. We had Magnaflow Competition Cat Backs with the Off Road which are fairly similar in sound to Roush and They were loud, little too raspy and def had some highway drone.
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No resonators. 3" Off Road X Pipe into 3" over axle pipes all the way into the GT500 Quads.
I had a shop make new 3" pipes on the motor side of the mufflers to receive the 3" OA pipes.
Our goal with this car is big in /big out to get a deeper sound and allow for a Paxton down the road.
With the stock over axle pipes inc resonators, it will be a touch higher tone and no rasp at all and a little quieter. I still like the sound of the GT500 with Off Road pipes. We had Magnaflow Competition Cat Backs with the Off Road which are fairly similar in sound to Roush and They were loud, little too raspy and def had some highway drone.
Sounds awsome. Can't wait till I get time to install mine!!!

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Daughter called me yesterday and said a huge box was sitting on the porch, can't wait to get home and work on it.

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Ok so I guess I won't be installing the X-pipe this weekend due to still waiting on my new tunes to come back even though I ordered the tune same day I ordered the x-pipe. Grrr

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Did I mention this job sucks? The bolts don't even look that corroded but they're being a pita. I'm using a 22" breaker bar on the passenger side and it's barely turning with all my weight on it. I wish it would just snap off so I can move on.
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Soaked the bolts some more and got them off. Lost track of time, job is done just gotta put the tune in later.

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Soaked the bolts some more and got them off. Lost track of time, job is done just gotta put the tune in later.

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LOL....That passenger top nut was a BEAST to remove on ours. I rounded it and ended up getting stripped nut head on it to finally get it off.
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Mine got mangled a little. Midway through I could feel the socket coming off and I hammered it back down good and tight and gave it hell.

I'm recovering from carpal tunnel surgery, most recent was 12 days ago; this wasn't my greatest of ideas. Headed for the pain pill cabinet.

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Had an update problem but SCT walked me through it.

I'll post a video later. Db level is beyond cool, it's ridiculous and almost embarrassing.

Anyone wanna trade their GT 500 mufflers straight up for a pair of Roush's?

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Question, anyone else play with the ghost cam tune? It kicked in for me when I first started the car but I haven't heard it since. Only way I could get it to happen is to hold the gas pedal right where the tach was at about 1,100 rpm, but once I let off the pedal it would drop down to a normal 700-ish rpm and idle smoothly.

If I don't hit the spot perfectly it won't lope. If I'm just short of hitting the lopey range the idle just surges horribly.
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Question, anyone else play with the ghost cam tune? It kicked in for me when I first started the car but I haven't heard it since. Only way I could get it to happen is to hold the gas pedal right where the tach was at about 1,100 rpm, but once I let off the pedal it would drop down to a normal 700-ish rpm and idle smoothly.

If I don't hit the spot perfectly it won't lope. If I'm just short of hitting the lopey range the idle just surges horribly.
Let it warm up a scootch... then when it drops down it should Lope.
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I drive 16 miles to work, at least 5 of it every day is in creeping traffic, I'm sure it got hot enough.
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I drive 16 miles to work, at least 5 of it every day is in creeping traffic, I'm sure it got hot enough.
Yep plenty of warm-up time. Not normal. Call your tuner. Good luck!!

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dont mean to be a thread jacker, but what is the difference between an X pipe and an H pipe? Anyone have any sound examples? Does the H pipe add more poping on decel, or the X? Which one would give you more horse power or torque? Is there any difference at all? Just trying to decide which one i should go with.
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