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Old 03-22-2014, 04:44 PM   #1
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Boss intake & Steeda CAI dyno results

Just to share, as I've seen over the years with many parts, it's good for about half of what's advertised.

Notes: Bama race tune, same dyno used as before (Dynojet)

Last run and current run are on the sheet. Last run was with Roush mufflers and just the tuner only (race tune).

+10 hp peak
-22 tq peak

~ 30 hp & 20+ tq gained up high.




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The blue run file the boss intake?

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Bro u need a real tune, those numbers are low, buddy of mine made more with boss mani

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He made 429hp and 379tq

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He made 429hp and 379tq

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What were his mods to make that?

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Yeah. I'm running a Lund tune and got 410 hp and 390 torque. Have steeda intake and borla mufflers with X pipe.

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And I have stock manifold

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Boss mani, BBK O/R mid, muffler deletes and race bullets in place of stock resonators

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Boss mani, BBK O/R mid, muffler deletes and race bullets in place of stock resonators

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Charlie. It was a happy dyno or not corected #'s. If he had longtubes that would be about right.

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OP. those #'s are right. Considering you did not post if you had a offroad mid pipe. So im quessing still have stock cats.



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OP. those #'s are right. Considering you did not post if you had a offroad mid pipe. So im quessing still have stock cats.



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Exactamundo. Sounds about right for a car with cats.
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Yep, stock cats and h-pipe. X-pipe is going on next, then another dyno. Hoping the X will compensate a bit for the loss of torque in the middle.

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Nope, corrected numbers, that's on a AED tune not bama lmao

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Just to share, as I've seen over the years with many parts, it's good for about half of what's advertised.

Notes: Bama race tune, same dyno used as before (Dynojet)

Last run and current run are on the sheet. Last run was with Roush mufflers and just the tuner only (race tune).

+10 hp peak
-22 tq peak

~ 30 hp & 20+ tq gained up high.

This graph looks good! Your numbers look pretty good for your Modifications. What transmission do you have? What gear did they do the pull in? This will just help us figure out that the overall numbers are exactly what they're supposed to be.

Either way, the numbers look like they're in the right ball park. The gains you're seeing are spot on from what we've seen with the boss manifold. You'll sacrifice a little bit of low end and mid-range but the car should pull very smooth through the RPM's and you'll gain a ton up top.

I hope this helps. Adding a set of long tubes and/or O/R mid-pipe will push you well into the low 400 RWHP range. Keep up the great work with your car. Let us know when you add an O/R X-Pipe and we'll gladly update your tune for you!

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Dan,

How does this look great? It makes gains in the most inaccessible part of the rev range on road and loses or is neutral almost everywhere else. Are you seeing something I'm not?

You also aren't making sense. Curve gains are lower than peak typically. Peak is the biggest improvement point over stock, in this case, the 7200 point. Curve gains need inspection of the graph to quantify. It's pushing the whole curve up the graph, which this isn't really doing very much.
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How does this look great? It makes gains in the most inaccessible part of the rev range on road and loses or is neutral almost everywhere else. Are you seeing something I'm not?

You also aren't making sense. Curve gains are lower than peak typically. Peak is the biggest improvement point over stock, in this case, the 7200 point. Curve gains need inspection of the graph to quantify. It's pushing the whole curve up the graph, which this isn't really doing very much.
Its a bama tune. I have posted abput them 100 times. They the #'s there suposes to. But there tunes suck. Which proves #'s dont mean ****

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Boss intake manifold
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Catted X-pipe
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Muffler delete
NX 100 on about a 800 psi bottle
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Dan,

How does this look great? It makes gains in the most inaccessible part of the rev range on road and loses or is neutral almost everywhere else. Are you seeing something I'm not?

You also aren't making sense. Curve gains are lower than peak typically. Peak is the biggest improvement point over stock, in this case, the 7200 point. Curve gains need inspection of the graph to quantify. It's pushing the whole curve up the graph, which this isn't really doing very much.
The Boss intake manifold is responsible for the gains and losses and has absolutely nothing to do with the tune. You definitely sacrifice a little low end and mid range but you do gain a ton of top end horsepower and the car pulls very smoothly throughout the RPM range. This is because the intake works better with more modifications. The Boss has an upgraded valvetrain and you'll notice the Boss is rated at low torque numbers than a GT. That is because it makes mid range peak torque.

We would recommend that you would buy this mod if you had plans to build your motor, add long tubes, Nitrous, Supercharger, Turbo etc..

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Its a bama tune. I have posted abput them 100 times. They the #'s there suposes to. But there tunes suck. Which proves #'s dont mean ****
Actually his tune is spot on and his numbers look good. What is his reason for needing a new tune?

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Why do you have the nitrous hitting under 3k rpms? And i sure hope thats wheelspin

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Dan never said his numbers were not spot. On i said bama tunes are junk as you can clearly see by the graph. Not talking about the #'s the #'s are fine.

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And i sure hope thats wheelspin
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Boss intake manifold
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Muffler delete
NX 100 on about a 800 psi bottle
Still with the bama tune
510 hp
515 tq
That's one of the worst graphs I've seen. You can't be happy with it?
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The shop that's done the work said the peaks and valleys in the power band were due to low bottle pressure.
At the time of the dyno there wasn't a window switch because the switch was faulty and I had to get a different one.
And the low bottle pressure was because the bottle wasn't on heater, that being because the bottle doesn't have a pressure transducer yet.
Does that add up?
I mean the low pressure seems like it might be at fault to me.
What else could be causing that?

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On a heater*
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Wally should have known better then to spray below 3k rpms. Thats asking for trouble on a stock motor. Those dips would not be caused by a 800psi bottle pressure. Alot of it is the tune. Let wally do aactual dyno tune for you bud.

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What transmission do you have? What gear did they do the pull in?


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Trans is an M6, I did the pull in 5th gear.

Pipes ORX is already on order Dan. That should compensate a bit for the loss in the middle.

I agree the Boss mani isn't a good "street" mod, but I don't street race and I'm satisfied with the power driving around town. On the dragstrip the car isn't sitting down in the low rpm range so it really isn't a problem there.



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So, what's it delivering at the dragstrip? That's the next question begged by your response. My bud's full exhaust/tune car runs ~118 trap, through the 5.0 manifold. It's a well optioned Premium car, too. I'm at 115 on Procal 91, alone. How's that compare with what you are seeing?

What I'm seeing here is the Boss mani is not a worthwhile mod unless paired with a bunch of other mods to take advantage of it. I be thinking longtubes and off-road at least, plus an aggressive tune. The mani alone is somewhat pricey and when you add in the seemingly necessary other breathing mods, it's just not delivering much value, imho.
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I haven't been to the track in a couple seasons. Originally I ran the car stock and it was trapping right around 111. I plan on hitting the strip sometime soon and we'll see. Last time I ran, the car would run out of 4th gear less than 100' or so before the finish line; I'm thinking the raise in RPM will carry me through now on street tires. Some ET streets would be nice.

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Gotcha there. I was just over the limiter in fourth on 26" tires on 3.73. I solved my problem with a 28" slick. Now it's just perfect, right at the stripe.
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I haven't been to the track in a couple seasons. Originally I ran the car stock and it was trapping right around 111. I plan on hitting the strip sometime soon and we'll see. Last time I ran, the car would run out of 4th gear less than 100' or so before the finish line; I'm thinking the raise in RPM will carry me through now on street tires. Some ET streets would be nice.
Very cool! 110-111 is a pretty common trap speed for a stock 2011+ Coyote. Running out of gear is tough, the same thing happened to me! I definitely recommend getting a 28" tall tire. This will allow you to finish in 4th.

I have Full Exhaust, Boss Manifold, Intake, Upper/Lower Control Arms and a Bama custom tune. I was able to run a 11.87 @ 119.7 on a 90* day. The car was also on the stock clutch which was very upset with me after the first few passes. I was limited to a 1.74 60FT that day because of the stock clutch. Now that I have a Twin disc and some other goodies, I hope to see some 10-Second passes!

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