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Old 04-22-2014, 09:10 AM   #36
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The formula is this:

Gas price goes up--The Economy goes down.
Gas prices go down-- The Economy goes up.

Fact is the U.S.A.
Using less oil now then ever.
Producing more oil now then ever.
Buying less foreign oil.

Where is all the gas going??
China and many other foreign countries.

The oil company's want the cross U.S.A. pipe lines expanded and causing the high prices and some planned shortages will let them get their way. All we can do is bend over and pretend we don't know what the hell is going on and pay up. These oil company's are making more money then the Mexican Drug cartels and don't care anything at all about our country or what they are doing to people. Oh Yea ! Don't get me started on Ethanol in the gas. Another bend over for the citizens of our country.

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Premium is $3.72 here on base with regular being only a 30 cent difference. Depending on how much I go out, I usually fill up about twice a week at $50 each time. Definitely miss the days when I could fill up my old car for $20 easily.

All in all, I feel that it's worth it though. I've never put anything less than premium in my car and I don't plan on it. I didn't buy it for the fuel mileage. Anyone that owns a GT should've taken into account the fuel consumption/cost of ownership before buying one.
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I will never stop driving my Mustangs because it gets me high in life.
-Gas prices still piss me off, maybe more than others. Maybe not.
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Did I read this correctly? So if 91 is the highest octane around, one shouldn't even bother having a GT? If that's what you're implying, that is one one the stupidest things I've ever read.


Well i guess there are people that just want it ALL

Ive put 91 in my car and it ran like it had a boat anchor on it
Remember these 5.0's have almost 11: 0 compression ratio
and can take gas up to at least 100 octane and use very bit of it

93 is not even enough

And heres the proof
How many owners are getting aftermarket tunes because their cars don't make enough power.

I guarantee that if you could find around 96 octane unleaded
You wouldn't need a tune, The Car would Haul F''n *** ~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~

Thats how octane sensitive these engines are


So No ,if i lived in an area that had NO 93

NO GT





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Gas price goes up--The Economy goes down.
Gas prices go down-- The Economy goes up.

Fact is the U.S.A.
Using less oil now then ever.
Producing more oil now then ever.
Buying less foreign oil.

Where is all the gas going??
China and many other foreign countries.

The oil company's want the cross U.S.A. pipe lines expanded and causing the high prices and some planned shortages will let them get their way. All we can do is bend over and pretend we don't know what the hell is going on and pay up. These oil company's are making more money then the Mexican Drug cartels and don't care anything at all about our country or what they are doing to people. Oh Yea ! Don't get me started on Ethanol in the gas. Another bend over for the citizens of our country.

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Old 04-22-2014, 05:46 PM   #41
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Um, premium 93 is about 6 bucks a gallon in my part of the so ....quit whining when the US has the cheapest gas of quality anywhere in the civilized world.
$45.00 to fill up with shell 93 in southeastern Louisiana. About $5.00 more for non ethanol 93.
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Psh... Took me $60 to fill up Sunday, it's $3.99 here now
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I NEVER fill up my car
I did it ONCE and i felt like i was towing a trailer

Just TOO much weight
gas weighs around 6 .5 lbs a gallon x 16 gallons = over 100lbs of dead weight

Uless your road tripping a major mile trip
try running it with only 5 gallons about $20
and step on it ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~


You'd be amazed what 100lbs less feels like on these cars
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Well i guess there are people that just want it ALL



Ive put 91 in my car and it ran like it had a boat anchor on it

Remember these 5.0's have almost 11: 0 compression ratio

and can take gas up to at least 100 octane and use very bit of it



93 is not even enough



And heres the proof

How many owners are getting aftermarket tunes because their cars don't make enough power.



I guarantee that if you could find around 96 octane unleaded

You wouldn't need a tune, The Car would Haul F''n *** ~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~



Thats how octane sensitive these engines are





So No ,if i lived in an area that had NO 93



NO GT











Btw I'am sure your 20% tint really makes it faster

Would you like to tell us what air freshener you use too ?

There are a lot of areas in the US that do not sell 93 or above octane, so we all should miss out on driving a GT because of this? Moronic.

I didn't know tint made my car faster, could you explain this logic as well? Exhaust fumes is my air freshener, just for the record.
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I NEVER fill up my car
I did it ONCE and i felt like i was towing a trailer

Just TOO much weight
gas weighs around 6 .5 lbs a gallon x 16 gallons = over 100lbs of dead weight

Uless your road tripping a major mile trip
try running it with only 5 gallons about $20
and step on it ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~


You'd be amazed what 100lbs less feels like on these cars
Handles way better too !!!!


Aluminum driveshaft coming next $$$
You won't regret the driveshaft, definite boat anchor.
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There are a lot of areas in the US that do not sell 93 or above octane, so we all should miss out on driving a GT because of this? Moronic.

I didn't know tint made my car faster, could you explain this logic as well? Exhaust fumes is my air freshener, just for the record.


Sure heres the bottom line
You bought your California Special for the LOOK
and is the heaviest model for a GT

I bought my 100lb lighter, base GT with Trakpak for the HOOK ~~~ !!!!!!

Big difference
I demand performance 24/7 when driving my 5.0
Yours is more of a Player
Then a Slayer

91 octane may be good for you
But Not me

Oh yea *
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Haha, cool dude. I'm thrilled for you. Have fun with your elitism.
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Just for the record, I'm going to say TCopp could probably beat you on a track
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Well it also effects the TORQUE
30 to 40 cents a gallon difference down here in Miami
Would luv to try out Sunoco 94 that other county's have ?

And why own a GT if only 91 is available *
Yeah, but your regular gas prices there are about 30 cents a gallon more than where I live. I lived in Miami a long time and that's one of the reasons I moved. Its so congested you drive 30-40 feet, if that much, and stop, then repeat. Rats in a maze.

I didn't buy my Mustang to race it. I bought it because I've always wanted a muscle car and now was my time to own one. However, if I can save $10 per fill up using 87 octane I'll probably save $40-$50 per month. That's at least one car payment a year.
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If you drive a muscle car and complain about gas prices, maybe you bought the wrong car...
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My 73 Nova 4.10 rear end and 350 12 mpg.
My 2010 f150 5.4 16.5mpg
My 2014 mustang hitting 3.7 30 mpg hwy. I love it.
2009 road glide 44mpg good for nice days.

I do drive 45 miles to work one way. I do car pool to work with 4 of us taking turns driving.
Saves a lot of gas money each week !!

Gas is not cheap on the west coast either. Hitting the 4 dollar mark for regular.

No car pool folks on the glide.
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Just for the record, I'm going to say TCopp could probably beat you on a track

Maybe, ? But he cant beat the Warranty
He has None

Iam good for 75000 Bumper to Bumper
Thats better then any Tune



My Dealership charges $120 an hour labor, plus parts after 36000 miles
F' That
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If you drive a muscle car and complain about gas prices, maybe you bought the wrong car...


So if it goes to $5 a gallon, You wouldn't complain

Thats a weak argument
My Suv gets 15 mpg average
Am i not allow to voice my opinion if i drive a truck that gets 15 mpg too ?


MANY people at the pumps are complaining about the price of gas,
NOT just Mustang's
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If you drive a muscle car and complain about gas prices, maybe you bought the wrong car...
I noticed your new Mustang is a V6. How's that gas mileage? I guess you bought the right car.
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About 30 highway and average 20 around town. I love the GT's. Outstanding sound and performance. The power of the new v6 makes them fun to drive.
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Maybe, ? But he cant beat the Warranty

He has None



Iam good for 75000 Bumper to Bumper

Thats better then any Tune







My Dealership charges $120 an hour labor, plus parts after 36000 miles

F' That

Haha, I still have my warranty bud.
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Haha, I still have my warranty bud.


No Way Bra

NO CATS is a Definite Warranty Killer
Plus the Tune and the CAI.


You just haven't taken it in for any warranty work, on the motor yet ?

Just hope you don't $$$$$$$
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So if it goes to $5 a gallon, You wouldn't complain

Thats a weak argument
My Suv gets 15 mpg average
Am i not allow to voice my opinion if i drive a truck that gets 15 mpg too ?


MANY people at the pumps are complaining about the price of gas,
NOT just Mustang's
I wouldn't complain, it accomplishes nothing. You have to pay for fuel, whatever the cost. I have paid for fuel at $5 a gallon, it just is what it is.

If you drive a truck that gets 15 MPG and complain that it gets 15 MPG, then well you have a few options. You could accept that the truck gets 15 MPG and be done with it, or, you could replace it with a different vehicle that is more efficient, either by trading the truck in on a different truck or by driving something else.

Would I like to see fuel prices back down to $2 or less? Hell yes I would. However, that will not happen, prices will go up, accept it and move on.

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I noticed your new Mustang is a V6. How's that gas mileage? I guess you bought the right car.
The lifetime average is 24.3 MPG just over 9500 miles. That includes warming the car up for 15 - 20 minutes a day this winter. Before the first snow last year, the lifetime average was 27.1 MPG. I imagine that by this coming fall, the average will be back up around 27.

I bought the V6 because I didn't need a 4th car that's just a few bolt ons away from 400+whp. Also, I wasn't as impressed with the 5.0 as I was the 3.7. For what I was looking for, I made the right decision.
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I wouldn't complain, it accomplishes nothing. You have to pay for fuel, whatever the cost. I have paid for fuel at $5 a gallon, it just is what it is.

Not true
When the consumer tells the oil company's that enough is enough
The majority of car owners resist that extra weekend trip or car pool it
to send a message. $$$$

The consumer is what drives the Market


My complaint is
when gas was $150 a barrel 5 years ago
Gas was around $4 a gallon

Now a barrel of oil is around $100 and gas is
AGAIN $4 a gallon


WTF ?
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$45.00 to fill up with shell 93 in southeastern Louisiana. About $5.00 more for non ethanol 93.
In BR here, about $44-48 a fill up with Shell 93.
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Not true
When the consumer tells the oil company's that enough is enough
The majority of car owners resist that extra weekend trip or car pool it
to send a message. $$$$

The consumer is what drives the Market


My complaint is
when gas was $150 a barrel 5 years ago
Gas was around $4 a gallon

Now a barrel of oil is around $100 and gas is
AGAIN $4 a gallon


WTF ?
The consumer doesn't tell the oil companies anything. Oil and it's byproducts are essential to the global economy. If you or I or an entire state didn't buy oil for a day, or even a week, nothing would change. Now if you had a major country like the US or China stop buying oil for a day or two, that might have an initial impact followed by a spike in prices.

The reason that oil is down in prices per barrel but up at the pump is because oil is getting harder to get to (supposedly). You have the fracking and things going on, the shale oil from Canada, all of that is much harder to process than traditional oil found in the ground. Don't forget also that the purchasing power of the US dollar isn't what it was 10 years ago. Then there are the fat cats that run the big oil companies making millions upon millions.

It's like De Beers and diamonds. They control so much of the market they set prices on it regardless of if you buy a diamond or not. They will get what they want out of it or they will simply hold on to it until someone is willing to pay that price. All while continuing to create more product all while claiming it is rare.
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Been in the oil life since I was born. My dad owns a few oil field company's. It definitely not getting harder to get. Just more competition is all it is. And the price is going back up which is good!!

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Been in the oil life since I was born. My dad owns a few oil field company's. It definitely not getting harder to get. Just more competition is all it is. And the price is going back up which is good!!
GOOD FOR WHO ?
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Lol. You guys think not filling up your one car will make a difference. I have my 1000 gallon tank filled once a week with ethanol free 93 octane. 1000 gallon diesel every other week. In my personal vehicles I average 35-40k miles a year.

I will continue to drive the same regardless of prices. I have no other choice. Just part of living where I want and working where the money is. Btw, i'm currently doing 500 miles/week in my dd focus and 350 in my diesel 250 work truck.

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$4.25 a gallon average for Premium

I gotta tell ya
I was asked if i wanted to ride down to the Florida keys in my car
( 90 miles one way )
or car pool it with my friends in their SUV

Normally i would grab my squeeze and do the GT Adventure
But iam actually not road tripping as much as i have lately


GAS HAS GONE UP FRICKIN 50 CENTS a gallon in only 3 MONTHS


And Theres No Hurricanes, War or Pipeline Obstruction
So WTF ?

Is $5 a gallon just ahead
Election time is coming up in Florida...soon the governer election; they are already advertising on how great each other is (the candidates).

The "story" they are telling Floridians is that there's a shipping/transport issue thats causing the price of fuel to be higher then the national average; yea, right. I guess they are paying the same amount for fuel as we have to?
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It's funny how (the royal) we are quick to point fingers at "big oil companies" and their record profits.

1. Every day, more and more ppl are on the roads driving. More demand = more product sold/used = more profit for the oil co's

2. "Big oil" makes between 5-8% per gallon as pure profit...after refining, transportation, drilling/fracking, labor, etc

3. Big Government takes 2-3x that amount like a good Mafia Don, yet nobody cares
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The Orlando Florida Gas shortage

A couple months or so ago I got out of bed, Turned on the news and guess what????
Gas stations in the Orlando Florida area were running out of product.( GAS)
The stations that had gas jacked up their prices and sold until they ran out.
This all was caused by, GET THIS ! Unbelievable.
*************************FOG
The idiots thought people would actually believe fog overnight stopped the trucks from delivering the gas to the stations. I live in Daytona and there was no problem getting gas delivered here. For some reason some big **** in Orlando must have upset a greedy oil company rep or would not hand out free tickets to Disney or something. Only Orlando and no other part or Florida involved.
I sure do wonder what that was all about.

http://www.wesh.com/news/gas-shortag...4996426#!FFCt5

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It's funny how (the royal) we are quick to point fingers at "big oil companies" and their record profits.

1. Every day, more and more ppl are on the roads driving. More demand = more product sold/used = more profit for the oil co's

2. "Big oil" makes between 5-8% per gallon as pure profit...after refining, transportation, drilling/fracking, labor, etc

3. Big Government takes 2-3x that amount like a good Mafia Don, yet nobody cares


Yes But your forgetting the BILLIONS of taxpayer subsidies
these Big Oil company's get for selling us this oil
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