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Old 07-30-2014, 07:17 AM   #71
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I just got my car back from the dealer after sitting there for a week, and now they claim the noise is "normal." First they acknowledge there was ticking, then they say it was the lifters or fuel injectors, they said they performed different diagnosis, had their "specialist" inspect it, and talking to the Ford hotline they decided it was normal on Mustangs and it should go away after 7,000 miles. I do not know whose a$$ they pull that explanation from, I don't know what to do, take it to another dealer?

Well, I'm at 7600 miles.... And mines still here.... And getting worse too.


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I just got my car back from the dealer after sitting there for a week, and now they claim the noise is "normal." First they acknowledge there was ticking, then they say it was the lifters or fuel injectors, they said they performed different diagnosis, had their "specialist" inspect it, and talking to the Ford hotline they decided it was normal on Mustangs and it should go away after 7,000 miles. I do not know whose a$$ they pull that explanation from, I don't know what to do, take it to another dealer?
I've heard some say they have the tick with 30k+ miles but I have to say my tick went away once I hit 6000. I would still really like to know where it is coming from

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I've heard some say they have the tick with 30k+ miles but I have to say my tick went away once I hit 6000. I would still really like to know where it is coming from

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Are you running Motorcraft oil? 5w20? I was thinking about experimenting a little before taking it back in. I'm just over 6k, and ticking.


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Well, I'm at 7600 miles.... And mines still here.... And getting worse too.


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Take it in and have them look at it.

Mine started off with a little ticking before I noticed, but now it has been the same, haven't gotten worse. At idle, it ticks randomly on and off, and when driving it, it ticks longer, but still inconsistently between 1700 -2000 rpm, it only sounds louder when I'm driving like next to the highway barrier, I think the sound is just bouncing off the wall.

I will take mine in again in a few weeks to another dealer to have them look at it, I guess I will feel more comfortable after getting a second opinion.
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One thing my dealer discovered, and I forget to pass on. They unplugged cylinder 1 and it stopped (according to them - they didn't demonstrate for me). So, when / if they tear it down, they are headed deep into cylinder 1. You may try this at home, but it will throw a code.


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One thing my dealer discovered, and I forget to pass on. They unplugged cylinder 1 and it stopped (according to them - they didn't demonstrate for me). So, when / if they tear it down, they are headed deep into cylinder 1. You may try this at home, but it will throw a code.


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You're saying they unplugged it? Meaning the injector clip I'm assuming?


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Take it in and have them look at it.

Mine started off with a little ticking before I noticed, but now it has been the same, haven't gotten worse. At idle, it ticks randomly on and off, and when driving it, it ticks longer, but still inconsistently between 1700 -2000 rpm, it only sounds louder when I'm driving like next to the highway barrier, I think the sound is just bouncing off the wall.

I will take mine in again in a few weeks to another dealer to have them look at it, I guess I will feel more comfortable after getting a second opinion.

Mines the exact same. I've taken it to one dealer but they said it's normal. I highly disagree.


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I believe so. I don't think they yanked the plug wire, but either would be acceptable for a couple minutes. They were thinking piston noise based on this. Since he missed the 1st diagnosis (lifters) I wasn't inclined to trust his 2nd. But at lead they want to fix it.


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I have this same noise. Tends to be worse in hot weather or after a spirited drive.. Why again so we think it's anything more than the materials expanding /contacting? The noise continues once the engine is off (for me at least).. Just seems like the car is cooling off to me.

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Lifters did not change the tick. My options are to let them tear it apart, with no diagnoses, or drive it. I'm opting to drive it while I think about it. They admitted it was heading toward a new motor. I don't really want a new motor. I like original 😢
Several owners have found the tick to miraculously cute itself with miles. Another option - loud exhaust may "cure" it. Not sure if I should let the dealer tear it apart without a destination in mind or not.


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I know I said I wouldn't post in your thread again but if your car really had a problem then its worse to not have the problem fixed especially if we're talking a whole new motor. The price of the motor to Ford is going to be more or less the cost of tearing thru and putting it back. Plus you have potential human error in reassembly. So that's potential future warranty expense.

At this point if the tick is that much of an issue let them tear away but ask them to propose to Ford a new motor as an alternative cuz of the cost of labor currently.

Pushy them for a new motor once they confirm that they're gonna tear the motor up.

Either way its better than driving and keeping a "ticking" time bomb
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I generally agree. That's why I told them to hold off. The more they touch, the higher odds of something else going wrong. I keep hoping mine will magically go away like a few others have posted.
Thanks for the thoughts!


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Are you running Motorcraft oil? 5w20? I was thinking about experimenting a little before taking it back in. I'm just over 6k, and ticking.


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For what it's worth. I had the tick on my car (the one that's consistent with rpm). Now my main concern was that u potentially spun a bearing because although it didn't sound exactly like it it sounded similar. I have been running redline 5w-50 since the first oil change. Recently I sent away my oil to get analyzed at Blackstone laboratories to see if any of the "wear" metals were high thus a spun bearing. Well, I'm happy to say the oil checked out with flying Colors and they see no abnormal wear of the oil or high metal content. Just some food for thought for all the guys stressing over the tick. I believe it's something in the top end (most likely a stuck lifter or such) . Mine has been getting quieter with time especially since I just switched to amsoil dominator 10w-30

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I know I said I wouldn't post in your thread again but if your car really had a problem then its worse to not have the problem fixed especially if we're talking a whole new motor. The price of the motor to Ford is going to be more or less the cost of tearing thru and putting it back. Plus you have potential human error in reassembly. So that's potential future warranty expense.

At this point if the tick is that much of an issue let them tear away but ask them to propose to Ford a new motor as an alternative cuz of the cost of labor currently.

Pushy them for a new motor once they confirm that they're gonna tear the motor up.

Either way its better than driving and keeping a "ticking" time bomb

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I just got my car back from the dealer after sitting there for a week, and now they claim the noise is "normal." First they acknowledge there was ticking, then they say it was the lifters or fuel injectors, they said they performed different diagnosis, had their "specialist" inspect it, and talking to the Ford hotline they decided it was normal on Mustangs and it should go away after 7,000 miles. I do not know whose a$$ they pull that explanation from, I don't know what to do, take it to another dealer?

If it's "normal" then they should be able to tell you and all of us exactly what makes the ticking sound, rt? I have it too but I have been gone a lot so my app is on August 14. Mine got considerably worse after the oil change last Thursday. As soon as I pulled away from dealer it was there. It has been less noticeable as a few days went by, but still there big time. It def has something to do with oil. And, from reading everyone that run amsoil and red line, I don't think these guys have this tick issue. I know a buddy of mine doesn't and he's run amsoil 10-30 since day 1. So, issue wasn't that bad before oil change. I had some knocking and now after knocking is definitely more apparent and tick is much worse.


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Yea I registered to reply to this as well. 2013 GT with Brembos; Stock motor, with magnaflow catback; California; 48000 miles.


What modifier did you use? I have heard this a lot, but only heard of one kind, called "Ford XL-17." I don't know anything about specs or different applications on them so I was interested in hearing what you did as well.


Does it sound anything like this?


This has been happening on and off for a few thousand miles. Started after I changed my oil with Royal Purple 5w20 synthetic at 43000 miles. I changed it early at the dealership at 47000 miles because I had too much oil lying around and no receptacles in my garage. The reason I got it changed early is because I wanted 3000 miles after next oil change/major service in case anything happens before my powertrain warranty is gone.

I've been putting synthetic in the car since 30,000 miles. This time at 47000 the dealership put their normal conventional/synthetic mix. I thought they put in full synth because the cost of the service was around the cost of the surcharge for full synthetic, and I expected they knew in their records what I was using.

Assumptions make an *** out you...

Anyhow I got the car back sounding like this. Much more than the royal purple had ever done. These days as far as I can discern putting conventional oil in your car after you've been using full synthetic doesn't make a difference.

Most people in the threads I've found talk about a tick that shows up after oil changes and goes away in 1000 to 4000 miles. Doesn't harm your car, but will drive you insane if you're ocd about it. (Yea you only paid couple tens of thousands of dollars for your car, why get concerned when noises show up that didn't before?)

Anyhow it happens less frequently than this now. I took it to the dealer but as you'd expect the car got performance anxiety.

So I think it's normal.

One question: The car makes a kind of ticking/fluttering noise at 1800-2000 rpm. Does anyone ever hear this as well bouncing off walls? Also really started up after the Royal Purple but I have been unable to get a good video of it yet.
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OK folks are saying after they get FORD oil change they have ticking problems?
Or Folks are saying I have a special color oil change and I have ticking problems?
AND folks say after I had Ticking problems I change to DYNZ oil and now I don't?
Please somebody list out the Scientific Method, You already have your Hunch on it...
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OK folks are saying after they get FORD oil change they have ticking problems?
Or Folks are saying I have a special color oil change and I have ticking problems?
AND folks say after I had Ticking problems I change to DYNZ oil and now I don't?
Please somebody list out the Scientific Method, You already have your Hunch on it...

You, sir, have lost me.


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You, sir, have lost me.
Yes no worries, this entire thread has lost me that is why I posted 3 items I could understand....
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You, sir, have lost me.


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Ticking sound

Easy as pie.

1.) Ticking is bad. Its not normal.
2.) Get it fixed by dealer

If dealer says its normal and nothing is wrong then

3.) Trade the focker into that same dealership for a 15 that's coming out.
And this time when buying the 15 pay for an oil change before you test drive it. And then drive it for as long as you can on that trip and then listen very carefully for any ticks or fleas or flies or gnats. My dealership charges $45.99 for an oil change. Pennies for peace of mind?
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For the record I did my first oil change at 1000 miles (at the dealership) then because I wanted to again at 2300 miles (at the dealership) no noise here. Not that that helps at all but just saying. Haven't driven it anymore since the second oil change except home and I let them use the factory blended oil. (14 GT)
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I have had this ticking issue since I bought my car with 40K miles. Performance isn't hindered by it, but last night I opened the hood when she was nice and hot. When the engine was running, I noticed that ticking noise, although faint, coming from the area where you pour new oil into. I'm unsure if it's the piston under that area. Or maybe it is the lifters which - I'm guessing - are manipulated by the camshaft which is turned by the chain. I am able to see this chain when I unscrew the oil cap and shine a flashlight inside. So maybe the sound is able to escape through the thin wall of the oil cap? I have also noticed that my ticking sound is from the right side only. I know this because the echo of the ticking noise when i drive by barriers is 95% on the right and 5% on the left. Also, I only hear the ticking noise on the right side of the engine (that little area around the oil cap). I didn't think to get someone to rev the engine a little and listen to the noise around the oil cap. But I'm sure it would correlate with my RPMs. If anyone has any comments about my write up, please post because I am fixing to take my car in. Thanks
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I'm going to take my car to another dealer end of the month and get their diagnosis. Really want to start modding, but I just can't with this ticking.
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I've heard that it could be a timing chain sensor.
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I have had this ticking issue since I bought my car with 40K miles. Performance isn't hindered by it, but last night I opened the hood when she was nice and hot. When the engine was running, I noticed that ticking noise, although faint, coming from the area where you pour new oil into. I'm unsure if it's the piston under that area. Or maybe it is the lifters which - I'm guessing - are manipulated by the camshaft which is turned by the chain. I am able to see this chain when I unscrew the oil cap and shine a flashlight inside. So maybe the sound is able to escape through the thin wall of the oil cap? I have also noticed that my ticking sound is from the right side only. I know this because the echo of the ticking noise when i drive by barriers is 95% on the right and 5% on the left. Also, I only hear the ticking noise on the right side of the engine (that little area around the oil cap). I didn't think to get someone to rev the engine a little and listen to the noise around the oil cap. But I'm sure it would correlate with my RPMs. If anyone has any comments about my write up, please post because I am fixing to take my car in. Thanks
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Update on my tick:
I slowed the dealer down on tearing my engine apart. Like everyone else, I have assumed it was oil related, and a mechanical tick. However, I'm changing my opinion.

1. Dealer found that disconnecting cylinder 1 injector stopped the tick.
2. I read on another thread that AED wouldn't provide a tune due to spark knock issues.
3. I talked to Shaun at AED. He told me the '14 has a different knock sensor.
4. I data-logged my tick. Did you know that cylinder 1 has a different timing advance that the other 7 cylinders?
5. Cylinder 1 is consistently running 1 deg. more timing advance that the rest of the engine.
6. Knock sensor is not registering spark knock.

I believe my tick - intermittent, ignitor sound- is actually spark knock on cylinder 1 and the sensor isn't picking it up.

Now to convince Ford to investigate. PS. My dealer doesn't know what data-logging is even. Could be a long road. And I could be completely wrong.


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Update on my tick:
I slowed the dealer down on tearing my engine apart. Like everyone else, I have assumed it was oil related, and a mechanical tick. However, I'm changing my opinion.

1. Dealer found that disconnecting cylinder 1 injector stopped the tick.
2. I read on another thread that AED wouldn't provide a tune due to spark knock issues.
3. I talked to Shaun at AED. He told me the '14 has a different knock sensor.
4. I data-logged my tick. Did you know that cylinder 1 has a different timing advance that the other 7 cylinders?
5. Cylinder 1 is consistently running 1 deg. more timing advance that the rest of the engine.
6. Knock sensor is not registering spark knock.

I believe my tick - intermittent, ignitor sound- is actually spark knock on cylinder 1 and the sensor isn't picking it up.

Now to convince Ford to investigate. PS. My dealer doesn't know what data-logging is even. Could be a long road. And I could be completely wrong.


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Knock doesn't sound like a tick. It literally sounds like a knock. If you are knocking at idle then you have bigger problems then a ticking at idle.

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Well, a lot of people have this problem, they got ac compressor belt replaced, timing chain parts replaced, other parts replaced, and it still comes back. I feel uncomfortable letting them take apart the engine, but that sound just isn't normal when other people have a perfectly fine 5.0.

I'm just worry about what it may do to engine performance or life, I really am enjoying my Mustang and I wanted to keep it for a long time, but I don't know now. I will keep it as long as it has a warranty.
Yea this tick is pretty much the only thing I don't enjoy about my car. I agree with you. I have a perhaps irrational worry that the consequences of the thing will begin to bare its teeth at 61,000 miles. Don't want that. At the moment the tick is much more intermittent than the days after the oil change. A lot of people who have it have resigned themselves to the noise dispersing after a few thousand miles.
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OK science method of detailed data, answer the following if you have a Tick

1) I get the tick after an oil change
* Dealer oil change with 5-20?
*other oil type...Example 5-30 or 5-50?
* Tell us color or name of oil type?
2) I get a tick all the time
3) I just burn ticks off my leg with a cigarette
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:48 PM   #101
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OK science method of detailed data, answer the following if you have a Tick

1) I get the tick after an oil change
* Dealer oil change with 5-20?
*other oil type...Example 5-30 or 5-50?
* Tell us color or name of oil type?
2) I get a tick all the time
3) I just burn ticks off my leg with a cigarette
... Hmmm logic dictates the following response to your Tick Problem:

1.) Stop prancing in the empty field behind the dealership when you change your oil. And stop using oil as deodorant. Doesn't matter the color or weight or brand. Just stop.

2.) Quit living in a tent or generally roughing it Survivor Man style in a tick infested field and maybe you will stop getting ticks all the time

3.) Since you get ticks all the time learn to live a symbiotic relationship with them instead of risking burning your leg hairs with a cigarette. Or if the problem is real bad try dousing your leg with gasoline and ignite it. Faster that way.

Hope you solve your tick problem 😉
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:27 PM   #102
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OK science method of detailed data, answer the following if you have a Tick

1) I get the tick after an oil change
* Dealer oil change with 5-20?
*other oil type...Example 5-30 or 5-50?
* Tell us color or name of oil type?
2) I get a tick all the time
3) I just burn ticks off my leg with a cigarette
1) Got the tick badly after my last oil change. Never really noticed it before. Dealer 5w20 conv/synth blend. Prior to that I've been using synthetic. They did not put in full synth as I wanted. It shouldn't make a difference, but it is the case.

The tick incidence has decreased with mileage. About 1000 miles on this oil. Happens occasionally pulling up a driveway or starting on otherwise steep pavement, presumably because increase in load on engine.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:12 AM   #103
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My car has just over 2,200 miles, I DID NOT change the oil yet when it started ticking, around 1,500 miles when I started noticing the tick. It sounds like it's getting worse now, more constant and louder than before when I'm driving it, but still randomly at idle, maybe because that is all I focus on now when I drive the car. I bought it in to the dealer 2 weeks ago, they had it for a week and said it was "normal" on all Mustangs and it goes away after 7,000 miles. I tried to explain to them other people's situation, but the service rep was less than helpful. I'm going to take it to another dealer in 2 weeks and see what they have to say.
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:40 AM   #104
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... Hmmm logic dictates the following response to your Tick Problem:

1.) Stop prancing in the empty field behind the dealership when you change your oil. And stop using oil as deodorant. Doesn't matter the color or weight or brand. Just stop.

2.) Quit living in a tent or generally roughing it Survivor Man style in a tick infested field and maybe you will stop getting ticks all the time

3.) Since you get ticks all the time learn to live a symbiotic relationship with them instead of risking burning your leg hairs with a cigarette. Or if the problem is real bad try dousing your leg with gasoline and ignite it. Faster that way.

Hope you solve your tick problem 😉
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Hi Guys,

I too just joined this forum only to keep this thread moving.

1) I have the tick.
2) 2014 GT (17,500 miles)
3) Built: 05/13, bought 06/13 with 7 miles on it.
4) Dealer: 1st oil change (3,300 miles)
Dealer: 2nd oil change (9999 miles)
-TICK BEGINS (10,300 miles)
Disappears at 13000~ish
Dealer: 3rd oil change (15500 miles)
-TICK RETURNS much worse (15700 miles)
Dealer: They give me the normal dealer bull****.

5) Tick is very quiet during fully warm conditions or fully cold.
The Tick its absolutely unbearable under specific conditions below:
Car has been driven til fully warm, then let to cool for 1hr-5hrs.
Upon start up (for lunch for example) the car will tick rapidly for up to 10 minutes before calming down again.

6) You can hear it over my Roush mufflers (only mod).... so embarassing next to the 4 other 2011-2014 GTs at my work . Get nothing but WTF's from my coworkers...



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